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Online EPF Transfer and Withdrawal from July 1, 2013 – Great News !

by Manish Chauhan · 95 comments

Starting July 1, 2013 , EPF account holders will be able to withdraw or transfer their EPF accounts from one employer to another employer online. EPFO has said that they are working on setting up a central clearance house which will be operational from July 1, 2013 . One of the major problems faced by employees is to transfer their EPF accounts from one company to another when they change their jobs or to withdraw their EPF accounts after leaving their job, which takes years and months, without them having any transparency in the system and process. They are frustrated, lost and have no idea where to ask for their EPF status and to whom . Because of this delay, a lot of people just let things go and the matter drags for years and years

epf (employee providend fund) transfer or withdrawal online

You can also Track the Status Online

The best part is that you will be able to track your request online and will be able to see which stage your EPF withdrawal or transfer is ! .

Permanent EPF account number for each person

EPFO has earlier said that they are working on the permanent EPF account number where a employee once allotted a EPF account number will be able to use the same Employee provident fund number when he/she moves to another employer. The new employer will deposit the provident fund money in the same permanent account number. This will solve a lot of issues, but this would be possible only after 1-2 yrs , the first focus is on introducing a online withdrawal or transfer service.

Verification of Details after the request is put ?

Once you apply for withdrawal or transfer, the verification of all the details from employer will be done by EPFO . All you would have to do is just initiate the transfer or withdrawal request online (Its not clear how it will happen or what you need to exactly do). After that EPFO department will take charge and do their part of work by contacting the employer. Here is how the transfer would work

The member makes his transfer application at his new or old office or directly to the EPFO through an online application. The process is then taken over by the EPFO, which gets data verification from both offices and gets the transfer done immediately. Now, EPFO would do the work of getting details from both old and new offices where transfer is involved, says EPFO Commissioner Anil Swarup. – SOURCE

This will help 50 million Employee provident fund account holders , lot of paper work will be saved and surely the harassment will reduce . (Read how you can withdraw/transfer your EPF , if your employer is not supporting or helping you) . at this moment , a lot of withdrawal’s happen because employees know that its more easier and do not want to take chance for future issues due to the complex process. Hence this move will help a lot to EPFO department in retaining employees with their EPF’s .

What should you do right now ?

While the EPFO has said that this will be operational from July 1, 2013 , still there might be delays from their end (you know how deadlines work in real life , remember what happened with DTC (Direct Tax Code) ?) . If you can really afford to wait and want to try out this online system, then wait for 2-3 months and then give this a shot, else follow the usual process at this moment.

Conclusion

While its a welcome move and we should trust the EPFO department, still you know what happened with the EPF Online Passbook system by EPF , which is not up-to the mark and there are tons of issues with it. It might happen that this online EPF transfer and withdrawal system is built , but there can be huge disappointment with the way it would work . We can only wait and watch at this moment.

What do you feel about this move ? A lot of people might have faced bad experience while transferring and withdrawing their EPF accounts and would have wondered why dont EPFO makes every thing online. Now it comes !

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{ 95 comments… read them below or add one }

1 CA Karan Batra April 19, 2013 at 3:44 pm

I think its better to transfer the funds through the offline route rather than waiting for the online facility to get started…

The chances are minimal that it would get operational from 1st July 2013… Moreover, even if it gets operational, there would be many errors in the system initially as a result of which, the processing of your transaction may get even more delayed…

I’ve experienced the same with the Service Tax Department wherein they werent able to get the systems in place for online filing of Service Tax Returns even after repeated deadlines …

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2 Manish Chauhan April 26, 2013 at 2:34 pm

Thanks for sharing that wisdom with us Karan :)

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3 siva April 19, 2013 at 3:59 pm

Its better to withdraw the PF money and invest somewhere else.
Transfer and all won’t happen properly.

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4 Manish Chauhan April 26, 2013 at 2:28 pm

It will happen properly .. will just take some time

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5 Nagamohan April 19, 2013 at 4:38 pm

In my experience these systems proposed by EPFO won’t work upto the expectations of the subscriber.There are many examples like EPF epassbook, claim status online, epf balance by sms all these initiatives give 2 to 1 year olddata only , that is not the purpose of having a online access .In my opinion the day dream of alloting permanent pf number would be cancelled very shortly just like the cancellation of alloting social security number.RTI applications on EPF transfer gives a little relief for subscribers that too in papers in reality we don’t know when the amount will be reflected in new account.

I personally feel that , the EPF account can be opened in banks anywhere near to your house just like a PPF account with suitable documents from employer with a passbook and a account number.The employer has to remit the epf dues on the above account , once money credited the bank has to send message just like our ordinary accounts.We can update our passwords yearly so that we have the feeling of what is the total amount accumulated so far.While changing jobs the same number can be indicated to the new employer and continue With the account and create a huge corpus for retirement.In the present system because of the issues peoples with draws their money and missing the chances of power of compounding and huge corpus in the retirement.

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6 Manish Chauhan April 26, 2013 at 2:27 pm

Yea .. thanks for your views on this topic !

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7 vijayakumar April 19, 2013 at 5:09 pm

If it works it will be good

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8 Ajit Padgaonkar April 19, 2013 at 5:21 pm

EPF has not yet completed updation of data for two-three years.

This announcement is impossible to be effective from 1st July, 2013.

Minister is announcing that employee can view their updated balances any time, this is not yet implemented upto now in respect of many organisations.

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9 Manish Chauhan April 26, 2013 at 2:27 pm

Lets see if it happens on time or not

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10 Chinmoy April 20, 2013 at 1:11 am

EPFO does not show EPS contribution .

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11 Manish Chauhan April 26, 2013 at 2:14 pm

Where ?

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12 Wriju Bharadwaj April 20, 2013 at 9:34 am

Hi,

Any idea whether this covers private PF trusts?

Thanks and Regards….

Wriju

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13 Manish Chauhan April 26, 2013 at 2:13 pm

I dont think so

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14 RD April 20, 2013 at 10:44 am

Good Move by EPFO..Thanks for the update.

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15 Ravi April 20, 2013 at 12:07 pm

Employees’ Provident Fund Organisation may stop financing members’ insurance policies from provident fund following operational problems and corruption charges, sources said on Wednesday.

The move comes after a large number of cases resurfaced where insurance policies have lapsed due to non-payment of premium.

EPFO is considering a proposal to scrap a provision (paragraph 62 of the EPF scheme) that allows subscribers to pay insurance premium from the PF balance and an internal discussion has been initiated, official told FE citing an internal circular issued recently.

Payment of insurance premium was one of the options offered by EPF scheme apart from the facility to withdraw money or take advances for buying a house, prepayment of certain loans, incurring social expenses like marriage and higher education of their children.

Though the Employees’ Deposit-linked Insurance scheme under EPFO offers insurance up to R1.3 lakh in case of death, it is not enough to cover the future needs of a family. At present, an employee contributes 12% of his basic salary towards EPF and the employer makes a matching contribution with 3.67% going for EPF, 8.33% going for employees pension scheme (EPS) and 0.5% for EDLI

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16 Manish Chauhan April 26, 2013 at 2:12 pm

Thanks for that info Ravi

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17 Girish April 22, 2013 at 2:57 pm

Thank you Manish for this information, I hope, this transfer/withdrawl will not suck as that of getting SMS updates or passbooks from EPFO sites.

I pray, EPFO will behave smart this time. :)

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18 Manish Chauhan April 26, 2013 at 12:18 pm

Yea lets hope for the best

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19 Anoop April 24, 2013 at 5:21 pm

Hi Manish,

I had changed jobs after working for 7 years with my previous employer and opted to withdraw the money from my PF account, which I got it easily as it was maintained by the trust :)
However I checked with my employer regarding the pension amount and when would I get it back, but my employer has told that pension amount is maintained by EPFO and they have no control on when the credit of the amount will happen. Can you please let me know how do I go about claiming my pension amount?

Thanks,

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20 Manish Chauhan April 26, 2013 at 11:23 am

Did you file the withdrawal form for that also ? then it will take some time. I suggest file a RTI for that and it should take few months !

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21 Anoop April 26, 2013 at 3:23 pm

Hi Manish,

Yes, I had submitted a form for withdrawal of my pension amount aswell, I’ll file an RTI and see how it goes, thanks for your help :)

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22 syed ummar May 9, 2013 at 12:29 am

I also have EPF account and 5years back i left the job and my amount is with EPFO only. at present my employer is closed shops. then how epfo will check with my office? how can i get back my amount.

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23 Manish Chauhan May 10, 2013 at 3:40 pm

File a RTI and ask the EPFO office on this

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24 syed ummar May 11, 2013 at 12:47 am

thanks Manish for your reply. can u suggest me how can i file RTI. i am totally illiterate regarding RTI.

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25 Manish Chauhan May 18, 2013 at 2:18 pm
26 Vishal May 9, 2013 at 2:29 pm

How can we transfer the money from dormant account? (Accounts with no transactions for more than 3 years)

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27 Manish Chauhan May 10, 2013 at 3:14 pm

You need to fill up a transfer form

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28 Vishal May 10, 2013 at 3:21 pm

Filled that alteast 4 times in the last 3 years but no progress whatsoever. Since the PF account is dormant, we cannot view the status as well.

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29 Manish Chauhan May 10, 2013 at 3:24 pm

Vishal

You need to use RTI now .

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30 subhasish Das May 14, 2013 at 5:37 pm

Dear Manish ji

Day before yesterday you have told me regarding EPF transfer problem – For RTI. Plz tell me how I will do the R.T.I.

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31 Manish Chauhan May 18, 2013 at 1:09 pm
32 hrishig May 15, 2013 at 5:39 pm

Looking at the interest rate offered , I am wondering will it be good if the same money is withdrawn and put in any Debt fund? The idea is not to withdrw this money for long term so if the money is added in debt funds and double indexation is used the resturns should be ideally much higher than PF. ( Best debt returns are around 13- 14% and PF is offering 8.5. So even if someone gets 10 -11 % after double indexation the savings will be huge. What do you think?

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33 Manish Chauhan May 18, 2013 at 12:55 pm

But in EPF the maturity amount is not taxable after 5 yrs , you will not get that in debt funds

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34 Abhishek May 21, 2013 at 9:31 am

sir,
from last 2011 feb, i have left my previous organization. Now can it possible to withdraw or transfer my PF in current organization.
Pl reply.

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35 Manish Chauhan May 25, 2013 at 6:01 pm

No , you can only transfer it

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36 Deep May 26, 2013 at 5:10 pm

Hi Manish,
I have similar kind of query . i worked for one company for 5 years and joined the another company 3 months back. i wanted to transfer my pf but before it could happen for some reason i need to quit this job also(starting my own things).So in this situation what can we done please suggest…

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37 Manish Chauhan May 26, 2013 at 5:36 pm

You mean you will leave the job and then apply for PF ?

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38 Manish Chauhan June 1, 2013 at 10:10 am

Nothing to worry , you can transfer your PF’s to your new companies or else withdraw it after 2 months

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39 Lalit June 4, 2013 at 12:14 pm

Hi
I had applied for closing my nearly 3 year old dormant account but it has been rejected on 25th may 2013 with note saying rejection letter has been dispatched but I have not received any letter.
Should i wait for the online closure process before trying again?
How to close this account? I did not receive any reason for rejection. Can I file compliant to get rejection reason?

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40 Manish Chauhan June 4, 2013 at 3:14 pm

What do you mean by closure ? Do you mean withdrawal ? Did you fill up the proper form ?

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41 Lalit June 4, 2013 at 7:32 pm

Yes I mean withdrawal. i sent 10c 19 cancelled cheque affidavit for late closure proof of identity pan card copy aadhaar card copy and sent it to my previous employer who verified and forwarded it to epfo chennai. however i received an sms saying that pf withdrawal has been rejected and they have sent rejection letter but i didn’t receive any email nor my previous employer received any communication.
how can i find out why they rejected the application? its not possible for me to run to chennai from delhi. they never pick up the phone and don’t respond to emails.

also should i wait till july 1 to refile again online. i don’t know why they rejected.

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42 Manish Chauhan June 8, 2013 at 11:55 am

Only way out is file a RTI and find it out !

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43 Pramod June 18, 2013 at 6:42 pm

I have requested PF transfer in Jun 2012 and now it’s 1year about to complete, but till yet I didn’t get amount in my new account.
online status will says:
“Your transfer request has been receive and the same is under process”
above message is repeated 4 times while I inquired my PF transfer status.

What should I do.. to get my money back..
Even I am unable to view my new account detail using view balance option on EPF site.
It’ll show there is no data for this PF account number and for old account It’ll show message that “account is settled”

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44 Manish Chauhan June 21, 2013 at 12:14 pm

Just file a RTI , they will speed up !

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45 Neeraj June 28, 2013 at 3:58 pm

Hi,

Can you please provide info on whether actually Online PF withdrawal process will be started from 1st July or not?

Regards,
Neeraj

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46 Manish Chauhan July 1, 2013 at 3:54 pm

It was expected, there is no news about it till now !

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47 Gopal July 3, 2013 at 2:59 pm

As expected, the EPF team made just made that announcement and thats it, they vanished.. Just wished they did something about it, or at the very least make an announcement on expected date!

What more do we expect from Govt. agencies :)?

Regards,
Gopal.

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48 Manish Chauhan July 5, 2013 at 10:11 am

We have to expect the delays :) .

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49 Sovan Samanta July 4, 2013 at 3:38 pm

Hi,
Can you please provide info on whether actually Online PF withdrawal process will be started from 1st July or not?
Please Sir…

Regards,
Sovan

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50 Manish Chauhan July 5, 2013 at 9:45 am

Its delayed already

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51 Lalit July 4, 2013 at 9:05 pm

It has been delayed for more than one month. And as per the latest news it seems to be applicable only for online transfers . Online withdrawals are not possible it seems.

Also it is only if both the companies in question are big companies that have a digital signature.

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52 Lalit July 4, 2013 at 9:09 pm

Union Labour & Employment Minister Sis Ram Ola released the revised transfer claim form previously called Form 13. The EPFO would be collecting digital signatures of employers in the next 15 days, a top official said, calling it step two.The third step would be the launch of web based services. The entire process is expected to be completed in a month, he said.

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53 Manish Chauhan July 5, 2013 at 9:37 am

Yes, but its surely going to be delayed as its a govt thing !

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54 vikas shinde July 6, 2013 at 11:40 am

I have pf withdrawal pending from 3 Employers, can i withdrawal online, when will it start?

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55 Manish Chauhan July 15, 2013 at 2:19 pm

Its not starting soon !

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56 Sharath July 6, 2013 at 10:05 pm

Hi Manish,

Any update on the implementation of this online process.

Any inputs would be greatly appreciated as I was hoping to apply for my epf through online process after learning about it on your blog.

Thanks in advance.

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57 Manish Chauhan July 15, 2013 at 2:15 pm

No fresh updates

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58 jains December 11, 2013 at 11:52 pm

companies on both ends i.e. old employer and new employer need to register with EPFO in some digital manner before online transfer can be accomplished. Basically, EPF transfer process requires approval stamp from your old/current employer, this will need to be provided digitally to accomplish online transfer. Even though EPFO data is digital (that’s how we are able to see balance etc online), transfer process will take a some more time to become a reality

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59 sd July 6, 2013 at 11:12 pm

Dear Friends,

I left company XYZ in 2010 & joined another company ABC in the same year. But I didn’t consolidate the accounts, i.e. didn’t get my account transferred from XYZ to ABC. Because of that I have to 2 PF accounts, one opened for each company.

Now I’m abroad working for an MNC (not an Indian company). I want to consolidate all my PF accounts into one, so it’s easier to manage & avail benefits thereof. My question is, since I’m not with ABC (or any company in India) anymore, how can I consolidate PF accounts of both XYZ & ABC (or transfer to ABC), so I have only one account.

Your help is really appreciated.

Thanks
SD

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60 Manish Chauhan July 15, 2013 at 2:15 pm

Not possible , as you are not working now in Indian company, you can just withdraw your money from both !

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61 Richa Lall August 14, 2013 at 1:38 pm

Looks like a very good initiative though, all depends on how it works.

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62 Lalit August 20, 2013 at 7:56 pm

Bhai log kuch nahi hoga.
Last time i applied for withdrawal it got rejected with made up reason missing document in 30 days
this time i applied for withdrawal it got rejected with made up reason missing document in 10 days

once online process starts it will get rejected with missing document or data in 3 days.

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63 Manish Chauhan August 21, 2013 at 11:55 am

Did you file a RTI against this ?

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64 Deepak August 27, 2013 at 7:02 pm

I think you should add the word tentatively to our post heading I spent some of my valuable time going through this post and of no use. I am trying to transfer my pf from previous company for 2 long years and they have played every little trick under the sun to frustrate me. Frankly online PF status & greivance management in EPFO site rocks. They gave me the real scenario of why it is getting delayed.

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65 Manish Chauhan August 28, 2013 at 9:23 pm

Why dont you file a RTI now for this . That will surely move it !

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66 Praven August 29, 2013 at 6:20 pm

Dear Sir,

Thanks for your usefull information.

I would like to know the current process of new employee pf & ESI registration process.

In interview they asked me … From pf how much an employee can draw, if he has less than 10 years exp in pvt ltd company. & more than 10 years exp how much. ?

What is the process for monthly filing of ESI ?

Please reply me ASAP sir, i have interview next week.

Thanks & Regards /-

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67 Manish Chauhan September 3, 2013 at 2:39 pm

That has to be discussed here – http://www.jagoinvestor.com/forum/

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68 Praveen Deshmukh September 4, 2013 at 4:46 pm

As I heard if service is continue for 10 years then PF account will be ceased and you will be eligible for pension. My question is if these 10 years are spend in different different organization then also you will be eligible for pensions.
Like if 3 years service in organization A and 7 years in organization B, after organization A pf transferred from A to B.

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69 Manish Chauhan September 7, 2013 at 5:17 pm

Yes, from all of them, so to make sure things are simple , you should transfer them all into 1 single account

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70 Praveen Deshmukh September 8, 2013 at 3:55 pm

But current company opened new Pf account and I need to transfer amount from previous account to new one. In this case It will be called new one and from her If continue account for next 10 years then only I will get feature of pension. Am I right, please clear me here.

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71 Manish Chauhan September 18, 2013 at 9:13 am

No , after transfer old tenure will be considered and added up

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72 surender.m October 2, 2013 at 5:18 pm

HI Manish,
Two months ago,i filed RTI application to check status of PF tranfer request raised in year 2010 and I also got reply saying that tranfer has been done ,it will credited in 2012-13 statement. But how to get this 2012-13 statment.

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73 Manish Chauhan October 7, 2013 at 8:10 am

If things are still not clear, file another RTI

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74 Sachin October 9, 2013 at 3:25 pm

Hi Manish,

I want to withdraw the PF amount for which I filled the form with the previous employer and got it apporved, but I don’t want to withdraw the Pension fund amount, either I can keep it as it is or later on I can get it transffered to my new PF account . Please suggest the best available option. Can this also be done using the online facility.

Thanks in advance.

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75 Manish Chauhan October 18, 2013 at 11:04 pm

I dont think you have an option to just transfer the EPS part . I suggest you ask it on our forum – http://www.jagoinvestor.com/forum

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76 Deepika October 22, 2013 at 6:19 pm

i have worked in a company for 5 months and resigned. I applied for PF withdrawl and my application got rejected. But there is no rejection reason available online nor have i received any courier. My PF account is in Gurgaon,Haryana.

Can you please suggest what i should do now? Shall i reapply for withdrawl or better opt for PF transfer?

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77 Manish Chauhan October 26, 2013 at 10:14 am

File a RTI now . It would be the fasted way to get right information about your EPF status !

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78 sunil dutt December 16, 2013 at 4:11 pm

sir
thanking you for easy withdrawal pf sir my company is not submit
my pf withdrawl from at his pf office they taken allredy abov one and half month
please tel me how i withdrawal my pf i alredy sended my company to my pf from
befor two mounth
thanks regards
sunil dutt

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79 Manish Chauhan December 18, 2013 at 3:54 pm

Use RTI now for your EPF withdrawal ,. read this – http://www.jagoinvestor.com/2012/03/rti-for-epf-withdrawal-or-transfer.html

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80 mitul December 19, 2013 at 4:37 pm

Hello Manish,

I am regular visitor here for better info. you guys are doing great job. best wishes for you.

I am posting my first query here, I have initiated Transfer of PF from Bandra RO to Bangalore RO. its been 2 years & 4-5 grievances, still there is no solution.

This is what i have got :

This is with reference to your Grievance registered vide Registration Number ROBND/E/2013/12074.
It is informed that after processing your grievance,the following action(s) has been taken:
F/13 (Transfer claim) settled. & P.F. A/C Transfer from MH/BAN/ XXX to BG/BNG/XXX of Rs.X vide cheque no. 039919 credited date 25/02/2013 You are requested to approach your respective EPF Office. /Trust

Then

From grievance from Bangalore RO

The said transfer will be added to your present account on receipt of softcopy of anneuxre K from Regional Office, Bandra

Now i fill chocked. what to do ? What abt interest on that money ? when it will be transferred ? Any legal action/Consumer Forum i can seek ? Can you guide ?

Regards,
Mitul

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81 Manish Chauhan December 25, 2013 at 12:14 pm

I think the best solution for you is to file a RTI application seeking details. First you should file a RTI to Bandra office and ask if the amount has been transferred to Target office, If the answer comes NO , then you need to ask them again When it will be done . and if answer is YES, then file another RTI to Target office asking WHEN will you get it, I think this will take another 2 months, but this is the final solution for you !

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82 Kshitij_Peter February 20, 2014 at 8:59 pm

Hi,
I have filed online applications (for 2 of my previous accounts) and sent the signed copies to my ex-employers. For one of them it shows as Approved and second it shows pending.

What are the steps/process after the ex-employer approves the transfer?

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83 Manish Chauhan February 21, 2014 at 10:21 am

They just have to give a signature and nothing else, as far as my understanding . File a RTI on this to know the exact status from EPFO

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84 Kshitij Peter February 21, 2014 at 1:59 pm

Thanks for the reply Manish.
The status just changed to approved 3 days ago. So now I just need to wait for the transfer to occur?

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85 Manish Chauhan March 3, 2014 at 12:17 pm

Yes it will slowly , File a RTI if you want it to speed up !

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86 Durgesh March 1, 2014 at 8:29 pm

Hi,

I applied for online pf transfer claim and it has already approved by my previous employer.
it is currently in following status.
“Current Status :Your request is In Transit between EPFO Out and In Office”.

It is in this state for a very long time(2 month).

Please advice.

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87 Manish Chauhan March 2, 2014 at 6:08 pm

The best thing is to file a RTI on this and ask the status , the moment you do this, you will see that this will be completed in next few weeks . Follow this – http://www.jagoinvestor.com/2012/03/rti-for-epf-withdrawal-or-transfer.html

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88 Francis Xavier R July 27, 2014 at 11:16 am

Any change in yr status now, Durgesh?

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89 Durgesh July 30, 2014 at 12:01 am

After a long time issue got resolved. Amount transferred successfully.

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90 ramya April 1, 2014 at 7:16 pm

i arready transfer my pf amount throw online to new job from my old job so how many day it will take time to transfer n how i will know my balance amount please kindly let me know the details

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91 Manish Chauhan April 10, 2014 at 3:26 pm

Ideally

It should take few months .. but it generally takes a lot of times. .better use RTI !

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92 sunny April 29, 2014 at 1:29 pm

Hi,
I worked for 9 mnths in ABC company changed my job and worked for 1 year for company then again shifted to third company.In each company i created a new pf account instead of transfer so currently i have 3 pf accounts.Is it possible to transfer only the money and not account to my latest pf account.If i withdraw my previous 2 pf account will it be tax free as my tax slab was under 2 lac in those companies.

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93 Manish Chauhan April 29, 2014 at 8:31 pm

Yes you can transfer the money part to your new EPF accounts . You need to fill up the transfer form

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94 monomono September 4, 2014 at 6:52 pm

AFTER CLICKING THE PREVIEW BUTTON
ITS SHOWING SUCCESS
AND NOT SHOWING THE NEXT PAGE…
ANYONE FACING THE SAME PROBLEM

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95 monomono September 5, 2014 at 1:35 pm

clciking the preview button
it shows
success:in a pop up with an ok button ..
clicked th eok button ..but the next page is not coming

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