File an RTI application for EPF withdrawal or EPF Transfer Stutus
POSTED BY ON March 5, 2012 COMMENTS (1,041)
Are you frustrated because of the delay in your EPF withdrawal or EPF transfer? Are you waiting from many months or years at times to get any kind of clarity on your EPF status?
Are you frustrated with your EPF withdrawal or transfer?
I have seen countless number of people on this blog and other forums really getting frustrated with waiting and waiting for years at times for their EPF withdrawal/transfer and they don’t get any information or update on the status. It is only when you personally visit the EPFO offices, you get some clarity, but even that does not help. So now if you are fed up with the EPFO office and it’s slow speed of work, what’s the final step you can take? In this article I will show you how you can use file an RTI application and successfully get lot of information and at times get your work done at a speed which you never imagined. Filing RTI application for EPF information has worked wonders for many people and they claim that it works brilliantly (if you do it right way). I know your eyes are shining, but let’s understand some background before you rush to find out how it works!
Some success stories of RTI solving the EPF issues
Case 1
I would like to share the success with RTI. I opted for EPF withdrawal about 4 months back, and did not receive my PF amount until I decided to file an RTI Application. And it was realy shocking to see the amount getting credited to my bank account within 3 days of receipt of application by K.R.PURAM, Bangalore EPFO. – Rohit
Case 2
My EPF withdrawal issue was resolved with RTI. After submitting the forms, after around 3 months, the EPFO claimed that they transferred my withdrawal money to my bank account. However I didn’t receive the money in my bank account. I raised online grievances for 3 times. Each time I got the same answer saying that the money has been transferred and has not been returned back to EPFO, so it must have been deposited to my bank account and I should check my bank account. Around 6 months went in this process with no results. As a last option, I filed an RTI application and to my surprise, the money got deposited in my bank account in 5 days (with additional interest for 6 months) and also received a reply for my RTI application.If EPF grievance system does not work for you, go for RTI. – Manish
Case 3
Yep RTI does the trick most of the time , I got all my PF issues sorted out with RTI application and have all the written proofs with cheque numbers etc for all my previous transfers. They even informed my about my balances for current year and told that they are yet to prepare the PF a/c’s for my company for the current year , but here are your balances with us. It really helps. – Hitesh
What is RTI and how it applies to EPFO office?
RTI as we all know is a common man’s tool to get a speedy and clear information from any govt office. Supreme Court has clearly mentioned under article 19(1) that Right to Information is a part of Right to Speech & Expression. Now, as EPFO comes under the RTI purview, you can file an RTI application and ask anything you want about your EPF. Govt is bound to respond within 30 days to your letter with all the information you had asked. So if you are unclear about what your EPF status is or if your EPF transfer work has even started? Why did your EPF money still not credited in your bank account etc etc… You can ask all these questions and you should be getting the 100% right and clear answers within 30 days. The only point here is that you should be doing it the RIGHT way. So lets see what all you need!
Note : Before filing the RTI , a good idea would be to file a EPF grievance redressal form online
File RTI in 3 easy steps
Step 1: Buying a Postal Order of Rs 10 from Post Office
The first step is to go to Post Office and buy a Postal Order for Rs 10. It should be in favor of Accounts Officer of the Concerned EPFO Office. Like if you are sending your EPF letter to Bangalore, the Rs. 10 postal order should be in favor of Accounts Officer, EPFO, Bangalore. The fees can also be paid by demand draft, but that would be expensive, better go for Postal order as it is commonly used for RTI.
Step 2: Drafting your RTI letter
The first step is to draft RTI letter for your EPF related queries. All you need to do is write a letter on a normal paper (better take a very high quality A4 size paper). Though there is no specific format for RTI application letter, still there are some rules of drafting it.
- The letter subject should start as “Application Form for Seeking Information under RTI Act 2005”
- The letter should be addressed to Central Public Information Officer, Employees’ Provident Fund Organisation, (Provide Concerned PF office address). Refer to this EPFO directory for exact address of PF office for your jurisdiction.
- Make sure you mention your Name, Address, Contact telephone number and your Email id along with EPF account number.
- Now, put all your queries which you want to ask regarding your EPF (putting them as bullet points is recommended)
- As a next thing, you should have a declaration – “I do hereby declare that I am a citizen of India. I request you to ensure that the information is provided before the expiry of the 30 day period after you have received the application”
- Finally at the end of the letter, mention the proof of payment of fees as – Proof of payment of application fee: Attached Indian Postal Order for Rs. 10 /- dated dd/mm/yyyy favoring “Accounts Officer of EPFO” as application fee.
- And complete the letter by putting your Signature, Place and Date.
- Sign the letter and Put your Postal address
- Mention the payment details like Postal order number, issuing post office, date, cash receipt details, etc., towards the end of your application
Following is a sample RTI letter.
Step 3 : Send the RTI letter by Registered Post or Speed Post
The final step is to send this RTI letter by Registered post only, as no courier is accepted. Please make sure you keep the acknowledgement receipt carefully for all the future communication (if any). It might be required by you. Once you complete the 3rd step, the RTI letter should reach the concerned authority in few days and then within 30 days you should be getting the reply within 30 days (as per RTI act).
Two RTI’s application needed in case of transfer of EPF
Note that in case of EPF withdrawal case , all you need to do is file an RTI query for the concerned EPF office. But in case of Transfer of EPF, there are two EPF offices involved, they are Source and Target. For example if you got transferred from Bangalore to Delhi and applied for EPF transfer, then your source EPFO office is “Bangalore” and your Target office is “Delhi”.
You will first have to file an RTI for the Source EPFO office to find out if the transfer has happened from their side or not. It might be the case that they rejected your application and you don’t even know about it. Once you file an RTI to them, you will atleast know what is the exact status. If you get a reply that the Transfer has still not happened, then they will let you know by when it will happen or give some pointers on the situation, but in case they say that they have transferred it from their side, then it means that the issue is on Target EPF office and they might not have processed your transfer yet. In that case the next step is to file second RTI to the target EPFO office.
File an RTI application for the Target EPFO and this time, along with all the details also mention about the first RTI and the response you have got from the Source, so that you show them all the proof of what you have done. Now you should get a reply from them again within next 30 days on what is their action and what is the exact status of your EPF transfer.
Online RTI Filing (For NRI’s or lazy Resident Indians)
For those who are too busy to visit Post office and do RTI filing offline. You can use the services of www.rtination.com for filing the RTI. They will help you create the RTI letter and then you need to download it, sign it, scan it and send it back to them by courier or ordinary post. They would speed post it to the concerned officer and also enclose the fee. At the moment the fees is Rs 150.
Important Points while Filing RTI application
When you file an RTI application, there are some very important points you should remember, because incase you don’t take care of some very critical points, it would mean rejection of your application and unnecessary work again. Here are some important points:
- Do not address your RTI application to the PIO by his name, just in case he gets transferred or a new PIO is designated in his place, it will be an issue. However addressing the Officer by name has its own advantage like when it reaches his desk, by seeing his name, he might see more interest in opening it and that might mean speedy work. However in my opinion, better not put the exact name of the person.
- Before filing the RTI, see if checking the status online helps here
- The matter can be hand written, or typed. There is no compulsion of typing the content.
- Be very specific while asking the questions, don’t ask unimportant or unnecessary questions, because some states like Karanataka have limits on the number of words in the RTI application (150 incase of Karnataka)
- Check the exact fees for RTI application for the state where you are sending it. Because it can be different from states to states. Like incase of Haryana, it’s Rs 50, not Rs 10.
You can read about RTI in detail here
Can you share your experience about EPF withdrawal or EPF transfer and in case you have used RTI for resolving the issue? Are you going to use RTI to get your EPF problem solved? Please update your results once you are successful.
I was an NRI till 2008 and I came back to India and took up an employment in Bangalore from 2008. I worked in 3 companies between 2009 to October 2015 and resigned from services in October 2015. The third company that I worked has some financial difficulties and has left several statutory dues unpaid and they have not paid Employees Provident Fund dues ( both Employee contribution and Employe’s contribution) for the last year of my service. I am a freelancer now and I want to withdraw my savings from the EPF account but I believe that I will not be able to do so as the last one year’s EPF dues are not paid by the company. I am told that I have to wait till the company pays its EPF dues .Is this correct ? What if the company is unable to pay for few more years. Is there a way to withdraw the accumulated amount standing to my credit for the years that is fully paid ?
Anand Raghav
Bangalore
Thats correct. EPFO can pay you only when they get the money from employer. I suspect that your company is not going to deposit it. No employer does that ! . File a police complaint !
Hello Manish Sir,
I am having a problem in transferring my old EPF account to my new company.
The issue is with the date of leaving. My previous employer has mentioned date of leaving wrongly. I tried with filling up the Form 10 along with all the details. But the problem is everytime my previous employer is stating that they have not received any courier and any documents.
Now it is more than a year that I couldn’t be able to transfer my old Pf account.
Kindly suggest what to do in this regard. Is there any way to contact PF office to change my details?
Or any form that I can fill up and send it to PF office?
Please suggest..
With thanks & Kind regards
Anjana Mukherjee
Hi Anjana Mukherjee
I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.
Its a bit long cut, but works well
Manish
dear manish
i have work between 2006 to 2008 in existing company, how to generate the UAN and how to with the PF now
Hi rahman
I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.
Its a bit long cut, but works well
Manish
Dear Manish, Can you please help me with how to file the RTI online against EPF office Chennai. which ministry to select for raising RTI again epf office chennai ?
Use this https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2012/12/rti-application-for-psu-banks.html
What happens if mistakenly I get PF amount transferred to an old/settled PF account with one of my past employers.
I have been following up with EPFO office for about a year now (three grievances raised) but I am not getting clear solution to my problem.
Jan 18, 2016 – ROBND/E/2016/00904
Feb 2, 2016 – RCHEN/E/2016/00956
Feb 5, 2016 – RCHEN/E/2016/01289
Sep 28, 2016 – RCHEN/E/2016/11794
Nov 1, 2016 – MOLBR/E/2016/04396 (pgportal.gov.in)
PF account TN/MAS/31309/087359 was settled on 27/01/2012.
My previous employer transferred funds from PF account MH/BAN/0018796/000/259924 to the above PF account vide ICICI cheque no. 226153 cleared on 05/05/2015.
Neither have the funds been credited to the settled PF account and nor have the funds returned back to my previous employer.
Bandra PF Office has confirmed that funds have been transferred:
“This is with reference to your Grievance registered vide Registration Number ROBND/E/2016/00904.
It is informed that after processing your grievance,the following action(s) has been taken:
ICICI Bank is exempted establishment from EPF, EDLI ( PF managed by company itself & Pension Fund managed by EPFO ) Form-13 ( Transfer Out ) claim is approved on 1/7/2015. EPS Service details has been transferred from MHBAN00187960000259924 to TNMAS00313090000087359. You may contact RPFC Chennai for confirmation of EPS service detail & PF transfer in your present PF account.”
Chennai PF Office says that the PF account was settled in 2012 and has not provided me with the status of the PF amount transferred to this account.
“This is with reference to your Grievance registered vide Registration Number RCHEN/E/2016/11794.
It is informed that your grievance is being treated as nonactionable due to the following reason(s):
it is informed that the member pf account has already been settled for amount of RS. 38626/and 12935/towards EPF and EPS on 27/01/2012 and amount sent to your Sb account.”
How do I track the status of this transfer and where is my PF amount.
The only way you can really get some concrete answer is using RTI now
Hi Manish, I had made an online transfer of my previous EPF account to the then latest one. This transfer never happened, and upon raising the grievance, the source EPF tells me that the transfer happened via cheque, but the account number they mention as the target is wrong. I ahve raised an RTI as well, on Sept 19, 2016 but havent received any kind of acknowledgement or resolution. What can I do from now on, I am in urgent need for my PF amount, which is no where to be found
You need to raise a 1st appeal against the RTI as you have not got the reply !
Hi Manish,
I applied for PF transfer through EPF portal , portal says form approved by previous and present employer but status shows ‘EPF still transmit between EPFO out and in office’ from past 6 months.I am planning to raise RTI to know when will this will be transferred completely.But previous employer maintain there own PF trust – what ministry/department I need to select in online RTI form as I am planning to submit RTI online? And I have to raise two RTI form? For previous and present employer? Please advise.
Hi Manish sir,
I have submitted the PF form in PF office for the withdrawal and it said under
CLAIM FORM 19 FOR PF SETTLEMENT FOR MEMBER ACCOUNT AND CLAIM FORM 10C FOR WITHDRAWAL BENEFIT/SCHEME CERTIFICATE FOR MEMBER ACCOUNT IS UNDER PROCESS
If you could kindly let me know approximately how much it take time to transfer in my bank account i will be grateful to you.
With regrads,
Wormi
Hi Wormi
I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.
Its a bit long cut, but works well
Manish
Hi,
I have recently transferred my EPF from previous employer a/c to New employer EPF account. But transfer only EPF amount, not transferred EPS amount. What can i do for EPS amount. Please suggest to us.
Did you fill form 10 C ?
Hi admin,
I have an query its not regarding RTI but ill be thankful to you if you could help me.
I had served my ex company for 10 months apr 2015 to feb 2016.Now i want to withdraw my pf so could you please tell me that am i able to withdraw full amount(my contribution as well pension too or just my contribution?
I am confused when i searched it on internet.
You will be able to withdraw the full amount !
Dear all,
Now you can simply fill RTI application for EPF and many central govt departments online (https://rtionline.gov.in). You can pay Rs. 10 online by Credit Card/Debit Card. You automatically receive receipt of your application. You can also check status of your application online. Your application is automatically forwarded to respective CPIO in respected office. e.g. If your query is related to Mumbai office, then your application is automatically sent to Mumbai CPIO. You also received direct contact number & email id. When your application is processed, you get email/SMS alert and if softcopy is not possible for required information then you will receive printed copy by Speed post.
I have successfully used this method for my EPF related matter.
Don’t pay any third party additional fee. No postal order, No registered post… it is all online.
Use it, it works great.
Hi Uday
For my next article, will you be able to give me a short writeup on your overall experience of using RTI online?
Manish
Yes… let me what you need.
I have already emailed you . But I just needed a little more details from you on what was your situation , how you filed it and what was the overall experience compared to earlier off line RTI option
Manish
Thanks for sharing that !
Dear Sri.Manish Chauhan,
I need your help in preparing an RTI Application, not for EPF but to other Government office. I want to send the draft prepared by me for your opinion and improvements. If you can spare time to do this help to me, kindly give your email ID.
Hello Sir, We are not the right people for this service. Kindly search some RTI activist in your city and take their help locally.
Manish
Hi,
I have one PF account with IBM ( left on March 2014). I joined new company on June 2015.
When I checked my IBM PF statement today , it is only showing interest update up to March 2015. Will I not get interest for 2016? If yes, when will it reflect in the statement?
I am not able to transfer my old account to new account since my details like date of birth not updated in PF account.I am working on making the update with IBM.
Hi Dhanya
I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.
Its a bit long cut, but works well
Manish
Hi Manish,
My Name Is Vivek Kumar Singh, and want to know more about RTI on EPFO.
My Father left a organisation 10 year Ago. And His PF Account is Now In-operated Account. In-operated Account Helpdesk Now Working (Link Not Open in any browser). My Father contact That Organisation Many Times But They Not Provide Any Help For Withdraw Amount. Now when I Check UAN Number Status, It Shows “Invalid DOB”. Then my father again visit there and ask for DOB which is mentioned On EPFO.
I Have Salary Slip and PF Number Mentioned On It. Now He is working at another Organisation and have PF number. Now i want to transfer previous balance to Current PF Account.
I Have Some Concern, which is mentioned Below,
1> Can I fill RTI to Know My Account Detail (From Previous Organisation)?. It Helps me to Transfer My Account Online.
2> If Not, How my father get the PF Balance. ( Please Explain all steps).
please….
Regards,
Vivek Kumar Singh
Hi Vivek
I have already explained most of the things in the article with all steps. What else info you need?
I wrote up my experience with EPF transfer – http://jdp-jayadeep.blogspot.in/2016/04/provident-fund-woes-part-3.html Thanks Manish and RTI !
Glad to know that Jayadeep ..
Hi Manish,
Great article as usual. Can you shed some light on the course of action that we can take if there is no reply even after 30 days of filing RTI?
My wife had filed an RTI for the same. Its almost 30 days now without any reply. We were just wondering what could be our next step.
-Thanks and Regards
Imon
Wait for more time . Its 30 days from the time they get the application, and often it can be 40-50 also . so better wait for 60 days overall.
Manish
Hi sir ,This is pramod chauhan,sir this is to inform you that i have been joined dominos as 1Aug 2004 and left the company as on 4 th july ,but company deactivate my EMP id as on 1 aug 2014,when i asked to company to do correct ,actuly i want to withdraw my pension for medical emergency and nobody want to listen my query ,i am realy frusted sir,sir plz advice me what to do now,,should i opt out from eps
as sir i in need of money for medical emergency and i am not working anywhere from last 1 year
You need to apply with EPFO for that..
Thanks Alot ,But i will be illegible to withdraw pension amount
Hi Sir,
I am ex employee of HCL. I have applied for PF amount transfer. But they rejected the transfer process with letter stating as zero balance.
Could you please tell me where shall i get the reason for my rejection ?
PF NO : HIL EPF Trust HR/5572/227640
PENSION NO : RPFCHR/5572/214516
mail id ; mjeevitha1990@gmail.com
Thanks,
Jeevitha M
Hi Jeevitha
I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.
Its a bit long cut, but works well
Manish
I have been applied for PF advance to buuy property , i am following up with PF office gurgao since last 6 months almost. Now I got a message that they have made cheque but they are not telling to whom and when they have sent the cheque. They asked all the builder details but builder has not yet received any cheque. Now Its been 10 days and I even dont know what to do. My account numner is : GN/GGN/29381/4374. While calling to gurgaon PF office they are not ready to share any information. I put grievance too but they take too much of time to reply on that. 🙁 . Please suggest.
Hi Amit Bansal
I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.
Its a bit long cut, but works well
Manish
Sir,
I have a query related to EPS Transfer.
Previously i worked in WIPRO (my 2nd company) and currently working in a private sw company.
When i left Wipro, i initiated for PF/EPS Transfer.
My EPF amount is successfully transferred to my current PF a/c.
Problem is with EPS transfer.
When i download the passbook using UAN based login, i could see “Actual Service as 00 Years 00 Months 00 Days”.
Also the Date of Joining showing as my 3rd company joining date. I think, it should show my first company joining date.
Can you please tell me , how to update correct Service experience for EPS ? I have 7.8 years experience which is not updated in EPS.
I have raised multiple greivances in EPF website but not getting any response to update that.
In the annexure K from Wipro, it is clearly mentioned as below:
Date of Membership : 03/07/2008 (my first company joining date)
Date of Joining : 10/10/2011 (Wipro joining date)
Date of Leaving : 15/02/2013
Please help me how to solve this issue. I am really frustrated for the past 1 year, trying to resolve this.
Hi Lakshmi
I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.
Its a bit long cut, but works well
Manish
Sir,
I was an employee in agri gold group. my services transferred in internal group(agrigold consrtuctions pvt ltd to agrigold farm estates ind pvt ltd) itself. but UAN number was not transferred that to company’s chairman,directors are being arrested. epf office of Guntur is not accepting for full and final settlement of my pf account.they are asking directors’ sign must and should
Hi Narasimhulu
You need to keep in mind following points
1. You need to fill up form 19 and give it to EPFO to withdraw your EPF
2. You should reach out to your employer in case you dont have UAN number
3. To make any changes in your UAN details, you can either do it online yourself by making a login or ask your employer to do that.
4. IN case of any other queries, I suggest to do RTI with EPFO with your queries
Manish
Hi Manish, Thanks a lot for this post. It really works, my PF transfer was pending for more than a year. After filing RTI transfer is done in a period of 2 weeks.
Glad to know that Jerry ..
Hi Manish,
I need some help from you.
I worked with an IT MNC for 6 months.
Due to some reason I could not continue work there.
I have joined a different company now.
Now, what I want to know from you is about my PF balance.
Here are the details of my PF account number with the previous employer.
My PF account number with old region code is KN/16573/115757
And the PF number with new region code is PY/BOM/16573/000/115757
I tried checking my balance in the official website, but i see an error message “Data not Available”.
I don’t understand what is the problem.
Could you please help me with this issue?
My contact number is 8983011053
Name- Mukul Rao
Hi Mukul
I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.
Its a bit long cut, but works well
Manish
Dear Sir,
I am Kanchan Bagchi following my Provident fund from my previous office which I left in year 2007 since then i am following them for my PF.I am not getting any information from them previously i was not entertained and every time whenever i submit my PF form they said we lost it you did not submit it submit again.
I have mail correspondence from 2013 till date every week they are not giving any fruitful reply.
I dont know my PF no company is based at Mumbai Forbes company Ltd /Seaspeed shipping agencies ltd,which branch my pf was submitted no idea .
Pls help me how to get my PF through RTI or any other sourses.
Hi kanchanbagchi
I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.
Its a bit long cut, but works well
Manish
Hi Manish,
I had written RTI application to SRO, Noida 2 months as per the information specified here. In absence of any response from them in the stipulated time frame, I had written First appeal to First Appellate authority stating I would not be present at the hearing. Now I have received a letter from FAA for hearing of the appeal. It has advised me to appear before appellate authority for the hearing. Considering it would not be possible to be physically present what should be my next action. Thanks in advance.
Actually I am myself not aware of this.
Okay.
I am thinking of writing another letter to CPIO informing him my absence and deciding appeal based on my submissions.
Yes, I think its the right way to go ahead
Hello,
The Website RTINATION you have mentioned is all fake. I have paid RS 150 to file RTI and got no response even after 5 days. I have sent so many mails but still got no response. Request you to please remove the reference for this site. It is a fraud.
Thanks for sharing that. Is it inactive now ?
Dear Sir ,
In my company there detect the PF contribution by employee as well as employer both amount detected from our CTC it is possible please explain regarding this what should rti of this .
Whats the problem here . The employer contribution was part of CTC. It happens like that only !
Dear Sir,
In our company I worked as casual employee under in a third party payroll (prolific consultancy,Bangalore) last 2 years & 8 months.from June 2015 I selected under company direct payroll also I resigned from prolific consultancy,when new PF account open regarding to my direct payroll now company informed me that previous company PF account can’t be withdraw from my PF account,only transfer of PF account is applicable.
now my question is
1. how can I withdraw PF amount?
2.in this situation PF account only transfer is applicable or not?
3.if I transfer my account what type of benefit I get?
4.If I transfer my account what type of problem I faced regarding it?
so need your valuable suggestion,please reply my email Id kuntal_2008@rediffmail.com.
Hi Kuntal
I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.
Its a bit long cut, but works well
Manish
I have filed for an PF online transfer through http://memberclaims.epfoservices.in/ on 29 July 2015 and it got approved by Previous Employer and the last status i recieved through sms on Sep 11 , 2015 as PF claim ID MAL XXXX Settled amount Rs XXX sent to A/c No:31031203437 (IFSC code SBIN0000300)-EPFO and i could see the claim status in EPF site as Claim Form 13 for Account Transfer AGAINST Member Account No (KDMAL00433370000001564) has been settled. Annexure K and Payment sent through NEFT. its been almost a month since the last sms, the amount is not reflected in my new PF account , please advise me what should i do in this case..
Hi bhaskar
Thanks for asking your question. However we do not have answer to your question.
Manish
I left my last employer in 2008 worked with different employer for 1 year, now i want to withdraw my EPF from last to last employee. how to get it done without going to my employer’s office or signed from them as I have moved to different state. PLZ advise.
Read this https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2012/11/withdraw-your-epf-without-employer-signature.html
Hi sir i worked in a company in chennai but the pf account is in maharashtra pune and how do i transfer this account this pf to chennai. im working in chennai and how come it is possible that my pf account is in pune . so confused in transferring.
Seems like that office which maintained the PF was in Pune jurisdiction. Now you can file RTI and take help on this matter
What does point 4 mean in your application.
If I write to trasfer PF from Bangalore to Hyderabad, what will be the address and who will be appellate authority in this case?
Also point no 3 is onlly applicable for noida or for any other city too?
Thanks in advance for quick reply.
Its not a transfer from a city to city , but company to company . So you fill up the transfer form and give it to your target employer
hi ,
i really don’t know what to do at this situation. Need our help.
i want to transfer/withdraw money from my previous organisation, while the time of leaving i have given them hand filled forms form-19, Form -10 . But my last organisation has its own trust so they will not transfer the EPF amount o government . But i have local trust Account number, its already been one and half year i haven’t received my amount.
can any one suggest me what should i do now
thanks
Hi Rakeshsaragadi
I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.
Its a bit long cut, but works well
Manish
Hi Manish,
Really very helpful information you have provided here. I have a small query regarding EPF account transfer, my case details is as below :
1. Left the company A in Nov-2010.
2. Join company B in Nov-2010 and working with this company till date and have new EPF account here.
3. Applied for my EPF account transfer from EPF office A to EPF office B in March-2011.
4. No any reply from either EPF office, had initiated the inquiry myself and came to know my application was rejected because of incomplete form on Jan-2015.
5. Applied again on Feb-2015.
6. Amount transferred in my current EPF account on June-2015.
looks happy ending here.. 🙂 but the amount transferred is less than what I expect. They had given only three year’s interest on my deposit and said “It is informed that interest on In-operative account(contribution not received for 3 years or more) of PF accumulation of member account has been stopped since 01.04.2011”.
I agree with the rules, but what is my fault in this delay ? I had submitted account transfer request on time, if they had rejected it, they should inform me or my employer otherwise how would I know that my application is rejected ? So I believe I should get interest for all 4.5 years instead of only 3 years.
what is your opinion on this case Manish ?
Regards,
Paresh
Hi Paresh
I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.
Its a bit long cut, but works well
Manish
Hi Manish,
Thanks for the advise. I had filed a grievance against my previous EPFO and they replied : ‘it is also informed that as per our office record i.e. outward regarding a copy of rejection letter send to previous and present employer vide this office letter No. #### dated 22.01.2013, so we cannot allow interest after 3 years of leaving service. ‘
And my employer did not received any such letter. now what would be the next step for me to get interest of 1.5 years on my hard earned money.
Please advise.
Regards,
Paresh
You will not get interest for money after 3 yrs , as it was inactive.
Hi manish,
I am facing some issue regarding pf withdrawn, I was worked at 10 year my previous company . Now I join new company from april 2015. I want to withdraw money.
If i withdraw money from pf, i will get pension money after I retired. Please suggest
No
Dear Sir,
1.) I have an Unactivated UAN alloted to me by my previous employer ABC.
I have resgined from there in June 2014 and in July 2014 I joined a government organisation XYZ which is an Exempted Establishment as per my knowledge.I haven’t been provided a new UAN number by my current employer yet.
Kindly advise me on whether I shall activate old UAN or wait for the new UAN from current employer.
2) Can I withdraw my PF balance OR Is it necessary to transfer the PF account to the new employer?If so,What is the process of PF transfer from Unexempted to Exempted establishments?
3)Since I am in need of money for urgent work in my home,Let me clarify if there will be any Legal issues if I withdraw my PF balance accumulated in the old account.
1. Wait for a new UAN
2. You will have to transfer it
Hi Manish,
I have query reg interest for inoperative PF accounts.
My old PF account was inoperative for 5 years, that is I left job in 2009 and Initiated PF transfer only in 2014. PF is transferred to my new account but interest was not paid from 2012-14, as beyond 36 months interest is not paid for inoperative/in active accounts. This is as per Scheme, in paragraph 72, in sub-paragraph (6)
I agree if account is inoperative EPFO is not paying interest but it makes sense if they pay interest at least after initiating the PF transfer. I got similar info @ http://www.livemint.com/Politics/LswkUw6wiYzsw5rG7XiCvI/Inactive-EPF-accounts-to-earn-interest-govt.html
Could you please provide more details on this, as we couldn’t found much info on Google also about this. Is there any way to get interest foe last 2 years.
Thanks in advance..
No Anil
Its not like that. You have lost the interest for 2014-2015 because its inoperative. Now once things done, you should get the interest if the current EPF is active
Hi Manish
I had worked in a company during the year 1995 and forgot to transfer the PF money to the new organisation and the present org is having PF trust. Is it possible to transfer the money of previous employer? What is the procedure ?
Please suggest
Hi Balaji
I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.
Its a bit long cut, but works well
Manish
Sub : Non Payment of Interest for the Period Jan 2013 to March 2014 while PF transfer to TCL
I have resigned from Avtec Limited on 4/1/2010 (EPF Indore ) and Joined Tata Cummins Ltd-Jamshedpur on 18/1/2010(Exempted acc.).
I have applied for EPF transfer through online on Dt:25/2/2014 (from Avtec PF acc. ) and the EPF got transferred to Tata Cummins Limited acc. on 13/3/2014.
But EPF office – Indore has transferred amount with Interest Calculations till only Dec 2012 only .Interest for the Period of Jan 2013 to March 2014 was not Paid by the EPF Office mentioning the New rule that came into effect in 2011 which was not aware of self.
The interest for the Period Jan 2013 to March 2014 will come to the tune of Rs 0.79 Lacs approx which was not Paid by EPF Office Indore , Which is major loss for self , being salaried employee.
Since there is no gap in my job and EPF was of transfer case , hope this interest is to be paid by EPF office only . Need you help on how to settle this unpaid interest amount and whom should we approach for the same
G.Raghuram
8805981200
Hi RAGHURAM
I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.
Its a bit long cut, but works well
Manish
Hi Team,
My Account is maintained with Kandivali PF office but i submitted my Claim to BANDRA office as i read online that the PF claim has to submitted to Regional PF office.
Please note i went through the entire withdrawal process on my own as i left my job for a job abroad.
please guide me if the forms have to be sent again to Kandivali PF office and if so can i get my forms back from Bandra office and sent them to the other office or some workaround?
You dont need to send it again because internally one office sends the docs to other office .
Thanks a lot…so i am assuming the status of the claim will get updated to the kandivali PF account soon as it is not done yet…
Claim is sent to office 15 days ago…
You should then wait for few months atleast
Hi Manish,
I am facing a unique issue. My EPF was supposed to be transferred from Vashi EPFO office to Kandivali EPFO. Vashi EPFO has done their part and state that they have sent the FORM 13 to Kandivali EPFO. I raised a grievance and according to which kandivali EPFO is stating that they have not received my FORM 13 and are asking me to resubmit them again. Submitting FORM 13 is an hassle as I have to resubmit them to my previous employer who will take their sweet time to submit it to Vashi office and then they will submit it to Kandivali and I am afraid that they may loose that paper again. How should I tackle such a kind of situation for the FORM 13 is either lost byVASHI or Kandivali EPFO.
My EPF has got transferred. Please dont bother to reply on the above query.
Glad to know that Ganesh ..
Hi Ganesh
I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.
Its a bit long cut, but works well
Manish
Good Day Manish
1. I worked with Wipro Tech for 13 yrs which has a PF Trust maintained by Wipro. I moved to another company and now have a New PF A/c given by EPFO Govt Office in Gurgoan State.
2. I requested Wipro PF Trust to transfer all my PF balance into my EPFO PF Account
3. Wipro informed me that they had sent a check to EPFO Gurgoan State and provided me the courier details and the bank cheq details
4. It is almost a year and there is no clue on where that bank cheq is; i sent dozens of emails to EPFO Gurgoan office and there is no response on that at all.
Could you please guide me on this giris9999@yahoo.com
Hi GIRIDHAR
I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.
Its a bit long cut, but works well
Manish
200000 rupees missing in my pf account MRMRT00287520000000436Sir mera EPFO Meerut mein pf account tha jiska number MRMRT00287520000000436 hai. Sir mera ye account 2007 se 2013 tak tha sir is pure India mein ye EPFO Meerut department sabse Jada froud department hai. EPFO Meerut department k employees sabse Jada baimaan officers hain. Ye mere pf account Ka 200000 rupees kha gaye. Mujhe mere 7 saal ki mama punji se surf 24 July ko 13169 aur 3246 total mere account mein mile. Ye meri sellry se Kate hue pf Ka 200000 rupees kha gaye. Aap mein se koi bhi pata kar lai mere account ki information se. Maine apne account ki information k liea 3 July ko RTI bhi jama kari but meri RTI Ka jawab dene se unhone saaf mana kar diya. Sir is Meerut office ki aur mere account ki enquiry karwaiye aapko khud inlogo ki galat harkato Ka pata chal jayega. EPFO Meerut department k employees k ghar income tax ki red padni chahiye. EPFO Meerut department ka her employee kai kai ploto Ka malik hai. EPFO Meerut department k employees k banko mein 50-100 corrode rupees mil jayenge. Jaise mere account se inlogo me 200000 rupees khaye waise hi pata nahi kitne logo k paise khaye honge. Sir mujhe mere 2000000 rupees EPFO Meerut department k employees dwara khud kha laine ki koi Dil mein shikayat nahi hai but in EPFO Meerut department k employees k Jo Bahar desho mein Jo bank account hain unmein bohat black money mama hai . plz Narender Modi ji aap in EPFO Meerut department k employees k ghar aur office mein income tax ki red padwaiye tabhi is desh ki black money wapas aayegi.
mear EPFO Meerut department mein 2007 se 2013 take account that jiska number hai MRMRT00287520000000436 hai aur sir mujhe sirf aur surf 24 July ko total 16415 rupees mile jabki mujhe kam se kam 2 se 3 lakh k bich Milne chahiye the. Per in EPFO Meerut department k baimaan employees ne mera Sara paisa khud kha liea. Sir aise to ho gaya Make in India. Kub hamara sellry se hamara Jo pf kat k EPFO department mein jama hota hai usmein se humein surf 16000 rupees de dete hain aur baki Ka hamara paisa apne biwi bacho k naam Bahar country mein black money k rup mein jama kar dete hain.
Sir aap mere account ki information nikalwaiye mere account k 2 se 3 lakh k bich k paise kaha gaye ye to mujhe sirf 160415 mile. Mere 200000 lakh rupees kaha gaye.
Main ab in EPFO Meerut department k employees ki complaint ab income tax department, suprrem court, sh. Narender Modi, labour ministry, CBI, Ra, american ambassador, chaina ambassador, Pakistan ambassador, UN aur sabhi desho k ambassador ko send marunga.
Sir in EPFO Meerut department k employees k ghar aur inke bank accounts ki income tax department se enquiry karwaiye.
Plz sir mujhe mere pf Ka amount dilwaye..
AMIT 9568863027
baunthiyalamit@yahoo.
Thanks for your comment amit
200000 rupees missing in my pf account MRMRT00287520000000436Sir mera EPFO Meerut mein pf account tha jiska number MRMRT00287520000000436 hai. Sir mera ye account 2007 se 2013 tak tha sir is pure India mein ye EPFO Meerut department sabse Jada froud department hai. EPFO Meerut department k employees sabse Jada baimaan officers hain. Ye mere pf account Ka 200000 rupees kha gaye. Mujhe mere 7 saal ki mama punji se surf 24 July ko 13169 aur 3246 total mere account mein mile. Ye meri sellry se Kate hue pf Ka 200000 rupees kha gaye. Aap mein se koi bhi pata kar lai mere account ki information se. Maine apne account ki information k liea 3 July ko RTI bhi jama kari but meri RTI Ka jawab dene se unhone saaf mana kar diya. Sir is Meerut office ki aur mere account ki enquiry karwaiye aapko khud inlogo ki galat harkato Ka pata chal jayega. EPFO Meerut department k employees k ghar income tax ki red padni chahiye. EPFO Meerut department ka her employee kai kai ploto Ka malik hai. EPFO Meerut department k employees k banko mein 50-100 corrode rupees mil jayenge. Jaise mere account se inlogo me 200000 rupees khaye waise hi pata nahi kitne logo k paise khaye honge. Sir mujhe mere 2000000 rupees EPFO Meerut department k employees dwara khud kha laine ki koi Dil mein shikayat nahi hai but in EPFO Meerut department k employees k Jo Bahar desho mein Jo bank account hain unmein bohat black money mama hai . plz Narender Modi ji aap in EPFO Meerut department k employees k ghar aur office mein income tax ki red padwaiye tabhi is desh ki black money wapas aayegi.
mear EPFO Meerut department mein 2007 se 2013 take account that jiska number hai MRMRT00287520000000436 hai aur sir mujhe sirf aur surf 24 July ko total 16415 rupees mile jabki mujhe kam se kam 2 se 3 lakh k bich Milne chahiye the. Per in EPFO Meerut department k baimaan employees ne mera Sara paisa khud kha liea. Sir aise to ho gaya Make in India. Kub hamara sellry se hamara Jo pf kat k EPFO department mein jama hota hai usmein se humein surf 16000 rupees de dete hain aur baki Ka hamara paisa apne biwi bacho k naam Bahar country mein black money k rup mein jama kar dete hain.
Sir aap mere account ki information nikalwaiye mere account k 2 se 3 lakh k bich k paise kaha gaye ye to mujhe sirf 160415 mile. Mere 200000 lakh rupees kaha gaye.
Main ab in EPFO Meerut department k employees ki complaint ab income tax department, suprrem court, sh. Narender Modi, labour ministry, CBI, Ra, american ambassador, chaina ambassador, Pakistan ambassador, UN aur sabhi desho k ambassador ko send marunga.
Sir in EPFO Meerut department k employees k ghar aur inke bank accounts ki income tax department se enquiry karwaiye.
Plz sir mujhe mere pf Ka amount dilwaye..
AMIT 9568863027
Sir my salary at exit is 4500 and contributory period is 5years 7 month.I should get 4500 x 6.07 as per table D but I got only 17615 as EPS return on leaving the job.is my calculation wrong sir.
Hi Sada
I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.
Its a bit long cut, but works well
Manish
Sir,I had worked in modi flour mills.He has pf trust ccount. for 1.4 years.i had left my job in april’15.My hr filled the form 10c & i deposited on 20/07/15.on 23/07/15 my a/c credit with 4949.Is it my full pf claim or not?When will i got full settlement of PF.Please advice
Hi rakesh
I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.
Its a bit long cut, but works well
Manish
2011 and 2012 mistake my EPF ACCOUNT NO UPDATED
PLZ MY MISTAKE ACCOUNT NO IMMIDATLI UPDATE THAE MY ACCOUNT
MY UNA NO 100242758003
Hi MOHAN MALAKAR
This is very specific query which you should follow up with the concerned authority only. We wont be able to comment on that
Manish
Hi Manish,
my details are as below :-
Claim ID : KDMAL150700002854
Status : CLAIM FORM 19 FOR PF SETTLEMENT FOR MEMBER ACCOUNT NO KDMAL00398040000011275 HAS BEEN RECEIVED ON 03.07.2015 IS UNDER PROCESS
Claim ID : KDMAL150700002856
Status : Claim Form 10C for Withdrawal Benefit AGAINST Member Account No (KDMAL00398040000011275) has been approved. Payment is under process.
I received on 14000 /- credited in my account, what is the amount credited….????
But the PF is of 4 and half years, is this the final settlement ………..
i wrote a mail to grievance dept, But No reply so far.
Please help me,
should i go for RTI………….Plse plse plse help…
Regards,
Naresh katiya
RM (Media)
Glocal Infomart Pvt Ltd.
Hi naresh
I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.
Its a bit long cut, but works well
Manish
Hi
I taken from the company and given the form 19. But the company is not submitting the claim to PF office. Please advice how I can proceed further.
Thanks for your advice
You can do it yourself and send the docs to EPFO
Dear Manish
Thank you very much for your advise.
Venkatarayudu
Dear Manish,
I need some help w.r.t to my old PF account on how to proceed.
I had worked with a big established between 2004-2008. When I moved to the new organization in 2009, I applied for a PF transfer and the same got done by 2010. But unfortunately I was surprised to see that the amount that got transferred was not even summing up to my principal PF component that would have accumulated with both mine and the employer contribution. I tried raising PF grievances with the concerned EPF office, but am seeing the case getting closed without any action being taken. I tried checking with my previous employer to understand the total sum contributed by me and the company so that I can arm with the facts, but they seem to have changed the vendor and do not have that data and suggested to raise a PF grievance which anyway is not working.
Can you please suggest me the best way to approach this? I am pretty sure that the PF amount transferred is barely the principal, forget the interest component and I am not sure who is at fault – whether its the previous company or the EPF office.
Please suggest the best way to proceed further.
Regards,
Rajesh
Hi Raj
I believe your employer was not submitted the PF money with EPFO . I suggest file a RTI first and enquire on that
Manish
Hi Manish ,
Very informative article. I am an NRI and been away from India for more than 4 years now. I left my Indian company couple of months back and they have sent closure forms to Chennai PF Office. I am not able to find status online as they say it will take time for data entry. As NRI does the RTI process works well and if so do you know how long I need to wait for filing RTI.
FYI – My employer submitted the PF Closure paper to Chennai PF Office on 14th May.
Thank you very much for all the information and looking forward to hear your advice.
Hi Sridhar
Now you can file the RTI online, so try that
What if even after 30 days of filing RTI, you dont get any response.. what are the next steps ?
Wait for 50-60 days .. It takes time !
Hi,
I am trying to fill form13 to transfer my old PF acc to new PF acc and while generating PIN on last page through ‘GET PIN’ button i am not getting any PIN no on my registered mobile no even i have verified my no.
What should do i do now.
Pls do the needful.
Is it happening even now ?
My PF number is TN/49094/325; I applied; But it shows as Your Account has been marked as In-operative Account. For details please contact respective EPF Office.
I need to withdraw that amount; What is the procedure via mail can you anyone help me? mobile: 8148791220
You need to fill up the EPF withdrawal form and send it to EPFO . Check some online video on youtube
Hello Sir/Madam,
I am Bhiutras Meher.
I transfer fond of my Old PF to new PF, the status is showing as
” Current Status :Your request is In Transit between EPFO Out and In Office.”
This status is showing for around last 8-9 months.
I am Bhiutras Meher, having PF account numbar WB/CA/0040394/000/0000600.
I have applied online PF transfer from my old account (DS/NHP/0017492/000/0006780).
Now the status is showing as Your request is In Transit between EPFO Out and In Office.
Sr No Member Name Previous Account No. Current Account Status of Claim Employer Printable Form 13
1 BHIUTRAS MEHER DSNHP00174920000006780 WBCAL00403940000000600 02 July 2014 Claim Form Submitted .
17 July 2014 Claim Form Approved by Previous Employer .
Current Status :Your request is In Transit between EPFO Out and In Office. Details
Is this transfer is taking so long time, or what is the problem is transferring the PF.
When my last PF transfer amount will be transfer to my current PF account.
I got the message on 03/09/2014 that
“Member ID: DSNHP00174920000006780-112 PF Claim ID: NHP140750001400 Settled Amount: Rs xxxx.00 Sent to A/c No.: 30100649549 (IFSC Code SBIN0001122)-EPFO”
I have checked the account and the amount is still not showing credited to my current PF account.
Help me to know the current status and when it will show the amount credited will show on my current PF account statement.
Or whom i need to contact for this ?
I will be very much thankful to you, if you can help me on this.
Thanks
Bhiutras meher
Bhuitras,
Please file an RTI , asking them about what happened to the transfer , as you already have the claim id with you . Send the rti to both the PF offices , if they are different offices. I had a similar issue where the originating PF office was in Bangalore and the receiving pf office was in Hyderabad. I put in two RTI to both the offices asking about the status of the transfer and magically it got transferred within few weeks after filing an RTI.
Please check the op on how to file an RTI.
Thanks
Hitesh Agrawal
Hi Bhiutras Meher
I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.
Its a bit long cut, but works well
Manish
Hi my name is shiva I am working in a software company as a contractor and my payroll is another company.. My doubt is, my payroll company is deducting EPF amount as 24%,, the employee contribution is 12% and the employer contribution is 12% both the amount is deducting from my salary.. My basic salary is 9000 I am not interested for EPF deduction.. not yet started my deduction because I am a new employee so I am planning to say I don’t want any deduction…is this effected to get my form 16 in feature, is their any relation ship to epf and form 16
please clarify my doubts so it will help full to me
thanks in advance
shiva
I think you cant skip EPF
Dear Manish,
My company took around 6 months to submit my PF documents to EPFO, before that they assigned me the UAN, during registration of UAN I found that this UAN has personal details of some other employee, I let the company know about it in November 2014.
In december 2014 they send me a mail that my PF documents have been submitted to EPFO, but I dint get my PF even after two-three months and when I asked them about the issue they said their was some problem of data mismatch and they have submitted the documents again to EPFO and asked me to wait till then, after 11 months of my leaving the company I have not recieved the PF till date, and when I ask who committed this fault they dint give me a convincing reply, they are continously saying me to wait till the EPFO process the documents. Till now my UAN details are not correct on EPFO portal.
Can you please suggest what can I do, is their any deadline till when ideally a company and EPFO should process the details? can any action be taken against the company in this case?
Regards
Vishwajeet
Hi vishwajeet
I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.
Its a bit long cut, but works well
Manish
Dear Manish,
I haf worked in a company previously where EPF is managed by their trust. They are not sending me the working of mt PF settlement amount and are pressing on an advance stamped receipt. I have a bad experience with this company earlier when they stopped payment of expense reimburesment cheque which was issued to me due to the influence of another person post which I got with charges. But fearing a similar kind of activity, I am not willing to give an advance receipt.
Is it mandatory to issue a advance stamped receipt?
Any other alternative where I issue receipt only after receiving payment?
Kindly advise.
Thanks
Kumar.
Hi Kunar Iyer VS
Your cases is a bit complex and I think we are not the right people to comment on it.
My suggestion would be hire someone who is professional in this area and consult them
Manish
Dear sir my name is Vibin.My mother has applied PF claim and get the reply from the site.
STATUS for Member ID: MDNKL00297380000000062
Claim ID : MDNKL141200002930
Status : Claim Form 19 for PF Settlement AGAINST Member Account No (MDNKL00297380000000062) has been rejected. Rejection letter is under dispatch/ dispatched to address in your claim form.
Reason of rejection: The reason of rejection is not available in database. You may please contact RO/SRO NAGERCOIL for further detail
Claim ID : MDNKL141200002931
Status : Claim Form 10C for Withdrawal Benefit AGAINST Member Account No (MDNKL00297380000000062) has been rejected. Rejection letter is under dispatch/ dispatched to address in your claim.
After that we submitted correction form. But i cant found my rejection letter.
and when i call to PF office they said that i withdrawl the balance but it is not true…pls help me
Regards,
vibin
Hi VIBIN JOSE
I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.
Its a bit long cut, but works well
Manish
Thanks a lot… manish.. i will move on that way..
my pf account is showing inoperative account , how to activate this, n i havnt fill 19 and 10 c form
pls. help me out.
Just transfer it to new EPF account
Thanks for your suggestion ,I have my new pf no. but how to transfer this money ? and what is the process?
Try doing it online – http://memberclaims.epfoservices.in/
Hi jayashree sherkar
I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.
Its a bit long cut, but works well
Manish
Hi Anu Mam,
I have applied for PF withdrawal through my previous employer on 10th April in Hyderabad. I asked my employer to get the acknowledgement reciept from PF office & they said they have submitted the form but not recieved the acknowledgement. I have checked the status online & its showing “No Records Found”. Please let me know how should i proceed further?
Thanks
Biswa
Hyderabad
Hi biswaranjan
You should take help of RTI now in this case ! .
Manish
Hello Manish,
My query is regarding the EPF transfer. In the year 2010 my company got acquired by another company so my PF transfer had been initiated from previous company to then present(acquired) company. i.e from Bangalore office to Delhi office.
As per Bangalore office, PF money is already transferred to Delhi office in Feb’12 however that money is not credited into then present company. Bangalore office has sent pdf file which contains all the details such as PF money.,date, etc… its been more than 5 years PF money is not credited to Delhi office.(now its been more than 4 years i left that company and its PF account became INOPERATIVE)
I filed the grievance more than 5 times, but every time I got reply saying ‘Due to Technical issue PF money is not transferred’. I’m really fed up with this. Please advise if filing RTI will help me
Thank you
Mahan
Hi Mahan
You should take help of RTI now in this case ! .
Manish
I had requested for PF Transfer from my previous employer (Delhi South EPFO) to present employer (Bangalore EPFO). The transfer failed due to cheque returned to Delhi office for some unkown reason.
When I raised a grievance regarding this issue, Delhi EPFO asked me to submit ASR form. I have a few questions regarding ASR form and I was hoping you could help me.
The ASR form is asking for bank details do i need to submit my bank details ?
In the Advanced Stamped Receipt section what would be received sum amount and which cheque number do I need to submit ? Also, what would be the advance payment card number ?
Again, I just wanted to confirm will filling up ASR form will transfer the amount to present PF account or will it transfer the amount to my bank account ?
Hi Pratik
I am not very sure on this ASR form this . Better check other links
https://www.google.co.in/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=asr%20form%20epf
Thanks Manish. I had submited the ASR form. Now the EPF office (South Delhi) is asking submite Form 13 again.
I had submitted Form 13 earlier and that is when they suggested to fill up ASR form since the chq was returned.
Any idea if this is a normal procedure or they are just beating around the bush and asking me to fill up all different forms.
Hi Pratik
I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.
Its a bit long cut, but works well
Manish
Can anyone please give me a format for the first appeal ? I have recieved an RTI response, but I am not in agreement with some of the answers and hence filing an appeal.
The first appeal sample is as follows
https://wrd.maharashtra.gov.in/portal/content/default/pdf/contents/home/1st_appeal_form.pdf;jsessionid=daeKhfEZ4F9LueDNYj8z+Q**
http://www.portal.gsi.gov.in/gsiDoc/pub/RTI_Specimen%20_First_Appeal_Annexure%209.I.pdf
hii,, i m shiva bhasin, i have worked with kfc 2 and half year. but my employer not submit my pf 17 month in pf office , now what can i do. pls ans me
Complain to EPFO on this matter !
I got an SMS message saying the amount is being transferred a week back, but nothing after that though I am yet to get a reply on my first appeal. So I filed a Grievance for which I got quick reply in a day(can you beat that from EPFO?) giving the transfer details. However, they have not paid the interest for the whole period. Since the amount was not transferred in time even with all documents in order, the account went inactive. So looks like I need to file a second appeal asking why they have not given me the complete interest due(IMO).
Once again thank you Manish – how I wish I had found this site earlier, I could’ve done everything sitting at home avoiding the not-so-friendly EPFO officers.
Hi Manish,
Quick question – I just checked with my office, the transferred money is in my current account(after 4 loong years!!), but they have NOT credited the interest that I thought was applicable. The account went into inactive state because they did not transfer the amount in 30 days time even with all the papers were in order. Now they have transferred the amount without me submitting any new papers or approvals. They should be giving interest till the claim is complete which is 24th April. So I am demanding interest for the duration the account was inactive because it was due to EPFO’s mistake.
So question is – does this warrant another RTI or appeal on the current one ? BTW, I am still waiting for the appeal response on this.
Thanks once again!
Never mind – they finally settled the claim with all interest till April 2015. I got a message from EPFO that the interest has been transfrered to my account. THanks Manish once again for this post which helped get this 4 year deal finally done!
I also received a postal letter from EPFO on my appeal to the RTI response. They say the request was to settle a claim, so this doesn’t fall in the ambit of RTI, so the forwarded the request to Public Grievance Handling System(PGHS) which has settled the claim in all respects! But they could have done this earlier, but anyways I have got my money:)
Thanks for your comment Jayadeep
Another RTI !
Welcome
Dear Sir
I have worked in a company for time frame of April 2010- December 2011, after 3 months of leaving the company i.e. in march i applied for my PF withdrawal but submitted only form 19.(Now here is the problem i submitted only form 19 but not form 10 c also, this was my 1st job and i was not familiar with nitigities of pf withdrawal). Now today can i claim my contribution of EPS, my monthly PF deduction was around 1100-12000, So i calculated my EPS contribution will be around 3500-4000 for my working tenure of April 2010- December 2011. Kindly help me .
Rohit Aggarwal
Hi Rohit
You should take help of RTI now in this case ! .
Manish
Hallo
Me Dilbag Singh
i,live in Germany
Indien Adress
Dilbag singh
Vpo.Bagthala
Dist.Kurukshetra
Haryana
Pin Code 136119
email-dilbag@gmx.de
Phone 00491631759377
My village ponds there early 4 water
if it would have rained then rain water in the village was divided into 4 ponds.
Time last years the villagers 2 water ponds shut and built houses marked.
half of the village’s water in 2 ponds and other half remains on the streets.
but if Jetz rains the water channels are full and do not know where is this in?
I would like to showed why the 2 ponds, the village made to residents.
when did the last 10 years approved via?
when did letze once made clean? deteil and date
what did it cost? detail and invoice
what’s with 2 ponds are to?
how should I write and how can I improve each man
i need help
Dilbag Singh
Hi Dilbag Singh
The question asked by you is beyond our scope. Its suggested that you hire an expert on the issue and pay them for the advice.
Manish
dear sir,
MY PF & Pension Account no. is MH/BAN/211273/77149. i have applied for it. and forward several mails to concern dept. but on till date did not receive any respone
Hi pardeep
You should take help of RTI now in this case ! .
Manish
Hi Manish,
I got the reply from the EPFO and they admitted that the claim was not completed, but they suggested filing another form-13 to get the money. But they had already rejected 2 more of my submissions saying that the claim was settled. They did not point to any deficiencies in my application.
But my stand is that since the claim was not completed properly(claim not settled in all respects), EPFO needs to transfer the amount with the old application itself and pay all interests till now. The account had gone into inactive mode. EPF rule 72(7) applies here IMO. I am drafting appeal against the response.
Any thoughts/inputs ?
Jayadeep
Hi Jayadeep Purushothaman
You should take help of RTI now in this case ! .
Manish
I have filed an RTI to get my EPF transferred from my previous employer and waiting for an answer. The problem here is, according to the RPFO documents, the transfer has been done long back, but the amount has not reached my current PF account. I visited the PF office several times and initially they asked me to file a new application, but they rejected saying that the claim was settled already. They kept saying that they are checking with the accounts department and dragging their feet. Before filing an RTI, I filed a grievance to get something in writing, which they did, but the person was very unhappy about it. So I am hoping an RTI will help solve my case.
Thanks Manish for your great post on how to file this.
Welcome .. Glad to know that Jayadeep Purushothaman ..
Hi. I left previous organisation in 2007 and immediately joined another organisation. The transfer application was made in April 2011. The interest is credited upto 2010 and 2011 i.e. for 36 months.
Now I wrote letter to them for asking interest for 2011-2012 on the ground that application of transfer was made in April 2011 itself especially for the amendment in paragraph 72 in sub paragraph (6) of scheme where for the words “but no claim has been preferred” the words” but no appplication for withdrawal under 69 or 70 or transfer, as case may be preferred” shall be substituted.
What do you suggest? I even tried RTI but they not reverting on same. First Appeal, Second Appeal-everything done
Hi SG
I am not sure what can be done now
Hi Manish,
I had applied for PF transfer on Government site on 28 jan this yeAR. My Present Company did approved the verification but my last emplOyer is taking time.They said that his boss has taken digital signature with him in Pendrive in bangalore. Where as the company is situated in Noida. I have waited for almost an month and still i do not think they will act on the approval. Please suggest me what need to do or if last move should be RTI.
REGARDS,
ACHAL
Hi Achal Khajuria
You should take help of RTI now in this case ! .
Manish
Hi Manish
I work in an IT Major in Delhi and recently as a part of divestiture our entire BU ( Programmers, Sales, Marketing, IT, Production ) was shifted to another company. I was serving in the old company ( lets say X ) for 3 years and now in the new company for about 6 months now. My old company had connected our EPF numbers with UAN ( which I crosschecked online ). My new company says they are in that process currently. My issue is as below.
1. I have resigned now from this company and am joining another company in another location ( for which the EPFO would be different, I am sure )
2. The current company admin says still it is ok, please process form 13 and submit to us we will take care of the transfer.
Even if I am not with the organization while they process it, is it ok legally? second, I will be joining the new company next month and in that can I submit Form 13 for the transfer of PF from both companies simaltaneously. I served in the old company till Sep 2014 and in the new company from Oct 2014 till March 2015. Kindly advise me as I am confused here. Do I submit the transfer papers here and then once I go there, check the status and again do a transfer OR can I do transfer from 2 previous organizations once I join the new company in March. Please do advise.
Regards
Ram
Hi Ram Manishankar
You can give UAN to new employer and he shall be helping you to transfer the EPF . ANyways fill the form 13 with current employer, no harm in that !
if i remove my provident fund a month before the pf interest that was gonna be deposited? do i get the interest on 11 months of pf?
Obviously !
Hi sir,
I try to transfer my pf account from old company to new company. My old company approved and mumbai bandra pf ofice prople are rejected saying the below information:
Reason of rejection: The reason of rejection is not available in database. You may please contact RO/SRO BANDRAMUMBAI-I for further detail
Second time I tried to with draw the ammount. After 3 months i checj the status .
I find the same message. Please help me to get the my money.
Reason of rejection: The reason of rejection is not available in database. You may please contact RO/SRO BANDRAMUMBAI-I for further detail.
Thanks
Khan
Hi HI Manish sir
You should take help of RTI now in this case ! .
Manish
Hi Manish,
I had sent an RTI application via Registered post on 28th January 2015 to the below mentioned address and the concerned RTI officer as per the EPF website info as below:
DELHI [South]
Name, Designation, Office Address of CPIO
Shri Ashok Kumar, RPFC II
EPFO Complex, Plot No. 23, Sector-23, Dwarka, New Delhi – 110075.
In the envelope i did not mention the concerned officer’s name. What I mentioned in the RTI envelope is like below:
To,
The Central Public Information Officer
RPFC II
Delhi (South)
EPFO Complex, Plot No. 23, Sector-23, Dwarka, New Delhi – 110075.
Is this the correct addressee I have mentioned in my RTI, please advise.
However I checked the registered post web tracking and saw my letter has reached Delhi on 31st January but has not been delivered yet to the concerned EPF office which seems unusual.
Could you please advice me is it possible for the EPF office not to accept my RTI application letter at all. In that case what should I do next? Please advise.
Regards,
Souren
Hi Souren Kundu
I think its has reached the department and will go to the concerned person . Dont worry . Wait for 1 month now !
Hai Manish,
Please find below mentioned details, next what i do and i need your suggestion:
Claim Form 19 for PF Settlement AGAINST Member Account No (HPSMLxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) has been rejected. Rejection letter is under dispatch/ dispatched to address in your claim form.
Reason of rejection: The reason of rejection is not available in database. You may please contact RO/SRO SHIMLA for further details
Regards
A Arunkumar,
Now file a RTI to find out why its rejected !
Thank you Manish, I am waiting for the rejected reason once I get it I will see what best I can do, thank you again for your help..
Regards,
Saibaba
Sure !
Hi Manish,
I have an issue as my EPF withdrawal has been rejected, I am waiting for the rejection reason, I have a strange issue as UAN portal shows my previous employers has paid the PF till July 2014 where in http://members.epfoservices.in/ shows PF amount paid till September 2013, do you think this is why the withdraw claim is rejected, when I contacted my previous employer and they say that they have paid the amount but the concerned PF office has not updated the portal (memebers.epfoservices), I request you to know how to proceed on this.
Regards,
Saibaba
I think its an issue from EPFO side. Your employer as said might have submitted the whole amount to EPFO . I suggest filing RTI here (you can do it online)
Manish
Hi Manish,
I am facing a very strange problem in regards to my EPF/EPS transfer.
In my Delhi based previous establishment which maintained a PF trust, I had a FPF a/c no DL/21842/000/2951. I had applied for a PF transfer from the trust back in 2010 which got transferred during 2011 to Chennai RPFC. But I was not knowing that I had to send a separate application for EPS transfer which was maintained by the DELHI North RPFC due to which the whole settlement remained incomplete as pension service details were not transferred.
Now when I contacted my previous company for the same, they sent me Form 4/5/7 PS and asked me to reapply for a pension transfer through revised Form 13.
In the process of online application I found that my previous establishment has converted their trust to RPFC and their office code changed from DL/21842/000 to DS/NHP/000 (Delhi North to Delhi South) and in the online claim portal with the same establishment code 21842 under Delhi South I saw a different member name with account number 2951.
Is there any way where I could get my correct EPF/EPS number and correct EPFO office to reply the pension fund transfer as my previous company is not providing any details on this.
Souren
This is a complicated case which I dont have an answer . I suggest using RTI for this and getting information on what is your next step !
hii….
I m struggling from year of 2009. I m having my all details like pf clearing details.
Henceforth i m not able to get my p.f amount. I m staying in mum. And that time our off shifted in Bangalore. I forward the RTI letter also but they rejected my RTI application. and not cleared the details also. I think i lost my money, because its to late.
I want to positive result from them Chennai Off.I m having all details with me. But I can’t get my amount.
Can you give me fruit fill Result.
Hi Neeta
I am not sure how did you file the RTI . Did you ask what is the status of your account and how much money is there ?
Hi,
I have recently applied for 2 of my old PF claims. both of them are more than 9 years old. I submitted form 10C & 19 and it was verified from HR department of both the Organisation and was submitted. This process took close to 2 month. 2 weeks back I got notification in my cell stating my claim has been rejected and a letter will be dispatch with valid reason, however there is no information as of now. Out of these 2 organisations one of the paperwork was verified by HR and sent back to me to submit it in PF office GURGAON and when i informed them about the rejection, they asked me to get the reason first and then to contact them. I am not sure what to do now? As I came to know reading at various discussions that at times those letters stating the reasons never gets delivered. Even the other Organisation has informed me that they have not received it yet. Please help me how long should I wait before taking any action and what are the nest step or course of action I should take now?
Looking forward for a guidance and help.
Regards
Minakshi
MInakashi
In cases related to EPF , you have to be very very very patient and be ready for extreme delays . So first make sure you expect the issues like this . Next make sure you take help of RTI here . Its highly effective . File a RTI to EPFO asking then the reasons for rejections and any other query you have, Keep filing RTI unless your whole thing is resolved.
Manish
Hi all,
This is to bring to your notice that i worked in Merrill Technology Services at Chennai & Coimbatore for last 4 years and resign as on 11th September 2014. After 2 months that i have submitted PF form along with the required documents but still i didn’t receive my EPF amount and neither. I want to know about the details of my PF balance? The Merrill Technology Services is not providing my PF status and details about rejection.
When i checked in EPF website with my PF number TB/TAM/0061122/000/0001100 unable to get the details and at same time its shows sometime rejected for unknown reason when i contacted your EPF office a person kept my call on long hold and then disconnected i tried 4 times she did same thing and finally last time when i called she said they didn’t receive my PF form. So, i have called Merrill Technology Services HR department she told as your PF amount can’t withdraw. If, you have joined another company the PF account will be transferred otherwise your death or go for Abroad or get into Business”. When I called to PF office they said there is no such a rule about your HR said. After that I called to my HR she said you have been guided wrongly by the PF official. So kindly please help in a needful way to get my amount which I have worked for so longer.
Thanks,
K. Boopathi
Your HR department is not guiding you properly . you can surely withdraw from your EPF if you want. Note that you should now file a RTI as directed in this article
Excellent article. I was waiting for my PF transfer to happen for allmost close to 1 year. Repeated following up with PF office I was told that they have not received my PF transfer form. As I was having my acknowledgement receipt from PF office on their acceptance of my FORM-13, I could file an RTI. After 2 weeks I got SMS stating that Money got transferred. Surprisingly the amount is not reflecting on E-Pass book. Might be they will be updating during year end. Overall I am satisfied.
Did you get the money in account ?
Not yet. Still it shows transfer is under progress
Hi all,
Need your expert advice . I changed my company 2 years ago.
However, my previous employer transferred all my PF amount to my bank account without my consent .
Do they have the right to do it , until and unless requested ?
This led to heavy tax penalty of around Rs 40,000 . What can I do in this case ?
Would be great if you could suggest me , on what options I have now ?
I have never heard anything like this . Your employer has no right to do that ! .. I guess what happened in reality is that they had deducted your EPF , and did not submit it to EPFO at all .. and then just gave you back .. a wild guess !
I filed a RTI for my PF withdrawal but no reply came.Its almost 2 months now.What should I do now?
Regards
Sandeep.R
Now you need to file a First Appeal !
Hello sir,
On trying to check account balance of EPF the message on EPF site says:
STATUS:”Your account has been settled. For detail’s please contact respective EPF Office.”
And when i checked the status of transfer applicaiton (form 13) the message says:
Status : Claim Form 13 for Transfer to New Account Number: AGAINST Old Member Account No (************) has been approved. Payment is under process.
These status are coming on the website since 23rd July 2014.
When i mailed to my previous employer about this they said please contact to your present employer and current employer are saying it will take some time please wait.
Should i wait ? Since 5 month have already been completed.
Priya
You should now take help of RTI ..
sir,
i was worked in private college as a lecturer..they cut a PF from my account till 2012..but after that they did not give me any prrof of my account and reason for stop ma EPF account..i leave that job 2 month ago i.e on sep 2014..now i want to know about my EPF balance ..is it exist or not..if yes then how i proceed..if not thn what my next step to get ma EPF..
Thanks
Harvinder
1) first step…ask them whats your pf number..
2a) if they answer you…check in site your pf balance..and try to transfer..hard copies of transfer have to send to them
2b) if they say ….i don’t know get lost…show them the 16a FORM..which mentions you salary details..which they gave you when you used to be a employee there…and email them this form 16a scanned form..and say you had a PF account there( a pf deduction line will be there in form 16A) ..and SAY you want to know the number..EMAIL THIS to HR’S AND HEAD..of that organization ..if
they still say..get lost again mail them saying you will take legal actions if they don’t send you the epf number…and say next time you will send this email to RO offices also…again keep in send to all including head peoples also..
if they have deducted PF..but not deposited in pf account they have cheated you..but their cheating will be caught as form 16a shows this PF deductions…
LAST THING.. IF THEY HAVE DEDUCTED PF..BUT IN FORM 16A its shows NO PF DEDUCTIONS THEN ITS DIFFICULT…
ALSO I HOPE YOU HAVE THE FORM 16A..
and BEFORE TAKING THE FIRST STEP CALL THEM…AND ASK POLITELY..THESE THINGS..IF THEY SAY POLITELY..THAT THEY HAVE NO IDEA..SAY POLITELY YOU HAVE THE FORM 16A which shows PF deductions..
I HOPE I HAVE SHOWN YOU SOME rasta…
IF YOU DONT HAVE FORM 16A ..then first ask them to send you the form 16a FOR THAT YEAR..
DONT ASK THEM STARIGHWAY ABOUT YOUR PF number…
then they will never send you the 16A form…
IF THEY AT FIRST EVEN DONT GIVE YOU THE FORM 16A TRY TO GENERATE THIS FROM THE TIN WEBSITE..INCOME TAX WEBSITE….
Monotosh Mondal
You first file a RTI with EPFO stating your EPF number .. they will share the balance !
Hi Manish,
This post of great help to people like me, I have been seeing this space since long time.
Here is my story.
I have an EPF account with my previous employer based in Chennai. I applied for EPF withdrawal but it’s been more than 45 days, I can see the status of EPF withdrawal request as “Claim for Withdrawal Benefit has been approved. Payment is under process.”
I had raised EPF grievance and got reply saying “Sum was settled towards EPF & EPS and sent through NEFT” but amount is still not credited to my account.
I just submitted RTI online which costs me rs 10 only. Will keep you updated on this.
Regards,
Amol
Thats great Amol
Can you send me your experience of filing RTI online !
Dear Sir,
My PF number got changes due to my overseas posting for more than 1 year. Recently I applied for transfer of my old PF amount to new PF number which is linked to UAN. Please note that bot old and new PF numbers are from same organzation only that the new number is linked to UAN.
PF office Chennai rejeceted my transfer saying that the previous company (which I left 6 years before ) has not transferred Pension amount (PF already got transferred) which is Rs 541 per month for 18 months, that is why this transfer is rejected. Please let me know is this valid reason to reject or they are just delaying my transfer. According to me if previous employer has not transferred Pension amount then they should not reject the amount transfer which is already there, both amounts are mine and PF office should transfer whatever amount which is existing now and guide us to get the previous pension amount transferred to new account which is linked to UAN.
Please guide me what should I do.
Thanks,
Siddharth
I think only a RTI response will help you get clarity on this .
Hi Manish,
I have the same issue which Siddarth have.
But do we need to worry about this EPS transfer? since we are not going to get the pension based on this accumulation amount after the age of 58. I think, we will get the pension based on the Salary, Service and 70.
Please confirm my understanding is correct.
Good point , I have no much idea about it !
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Hi Manish,
First of all let me say that this is a post of great help to people like me. I have been tired of follow ups for the past 10 months and was searching for an option when I found your post. Once again, thanks for the info.
My question is does filing the RTI online have the same effect, through the site – https://rtionline.gov.in/, as doing it via the post office (physical copy).
Regards,
Resmi
Yes Resmi
Online RTI has same effect , when I wrote this article, ONLINE RTI was not there. . now its there 🙂
Thank you for the prompt reply 🙂 Just filed an Online RTI. Will post any update on this space.
Great .. can you send me your experience and what exactly you did . I would like to add your experience and steps in upcoming article of mine !
Hi Sir,
Thank you very much for providing such a fabulous information about RTI & EPF. And thank in advance if you help me for my problem.
My previous tenure: Jun 2013 – Mar 2014, Still the employer didn’t deposit a single installment for PF to my account while they had deducted PF every month. I’ve complained on EPFiGMS 3 times, http://epfigms.gov.in/ but they replied,’the employed deposited PF only till apr 2013 ‘. Is there not any rule/regulations for an employer that they must deposit the PF on time? Can I file an RTI or anything else to government deptt. to make employer by force to deposit the PF amount to our accounts. You may think, they are making more money from our money. Please help. Thank you again Sir.
Yes, you can complain this to EPFO and talk to their PF inspector .. They will contact the company and impose the penalty on them !
Manish
Dear Sir,
I’ve already visited EPFO Wazirpur Delhi, and even met the PF inspector. He said, ‘We can’t do anything untill the employer deposit the full amount, Even we can’t do anything else (legal action). He asked me to wait for unlimited time.’ I want to know about any section in constitution or what I can do so that EPFO take any legal action against the employer. Please help.
Thanks for sharing your valuable time to me.
Navneet Agarwal
True . Its not their fault and employer is the main issue . You need to do a police complaint !
Hi Manish,
I have a similar scenario like Navneet. For me also they did not submit the last 4 months (before leaving the org.) of PF deducted, to the EPFO. They are also not responding properly. Can I file an RTI to my organization asking for depositing the PF for those said months? How should I approach in such case?I have just only communicated with them on this.
Please respond.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
If your org is govt company , then yes you can do it .Better file a police complain .. thats more appropriate
Hi Manish,
Thanks for sharing all of this useful informations. Well, my case in a bit different from the rest. I have been working with one organisation for more than 3 years. Thereafter I joined a new organisation recently. Now I wanted to withdraw the amount and so I submitted the claim form on PF office (Kolkata) dated 12th August 2014 and received amounts in two installments from them on 22nd August 2014. As per my knowledge one is EPF and the other is Pension Fund. This was truly a very quick settlement, but herein lies something. I have not received the amount (EPF+Pension Fund) what I should have and the amount is much less. When I inquired regarding this in the PF office they showed me a ledger where it is displayed that no amount is credited to my PF account for 8 months in total in these 3 years. But I can view from the EPFO website that my employer has already submitted the said amount and my name is also displayed there for the months which the PF office claims that they have not received. When I showed them this thing, guys who were not entertaining my queries readily agrees to me.They now say that though the amount has been deposited but it was not done in a timely manner by my employer. So now they say that this will be reflected when back-dated accounts are made and they cannot provide any timeline for the same. But as per what I have investigated on PF website it is clear that the employer has cleared the dues at least a couple of months before I submitted the claims.Can you please suggest me what should I do now ??
So finally you got the money or not ? Did you use RTI ?
Sir mera meerut pf office mein account hai jiska number MRMRT00287520000000436. hai main apna pf nikal raha tha to mujhe meerut office se bataya gaya ki mera paisa unhone kisi aur k account mein daal diya hai plz mujhe mere account ka paisa dilwane mein help karein .
meerut pf office k employ ne mere sath dhokha kiya hai.
Hi Manish,
Thanks for the useful info. I have some peculiar case. I had the PF around 5+ yrs of PF with my past employer since June 2007. By Mar 2012 i came to USA through them. After a year i left and joined in a local consultant. Now how to proceed here and you know 5+ will be good source to run a family for couple of years to kids. Please let me know what steps i need to gothrough and now i don’t have any contact with my employer to proceed futher.
Actually I am planning to write on it soon . As of now you can follow the same procedure which any indian takes . The additional step you will take is mention about you being an NRI and attach the relevant proofs !
Manish
I applied for PF and Pension Fund withdrawal on 22nd Aug 2014 after working with my previous organization for more than 5 years .
Within a week I got confirmation from my previous employer that they have approved and submitted the forms 19 and 10C to KR Puram Bangalore PF Office .
I started tracking the application on – http://epfoservices.in/homepage_claim_status_new.php
It was showing for last 2 weeks that Status :
CLAIM FORM 19 FOR PF SETTLEMENT FOR MEMBER ACCOUNT NO PYKRP0019214XXXXXXXXX HAS BEEN RECEIVED ON 04.09.2014 IS UNDER PROCESS
Going by the trend and after checking with few collegues who also applied for withdrawal from same PF Office, I was getting impatient because they received their money within 20-25 after they applied with previous employer also had few other plans lined up with this money 🙂
So yesterday I emailed the local PF Commisioner as well as did research and included few other email ids to address the delay , also I filed a Grievance to the office : EPFO, SRO, White Field .
Today the status has changed to this :
Status : Claim Form 19 for PF Settlement AGAINST Member Account No (PYKRP0019214XXXXXXXXX) has been approved. Payment is under process.
So withing 24 hours they started the payment process, I was exploring the options of RTI or visting the above PF office itself however now I dont have to .
So luckily things are moving , will keeep you posted once I receive the payment .
Hopefully in a day or 2 🙂
Last but not the least; Good Job Manish .
Thanks that you shared this with more and more people
Manish
Manish,
Everytime EPFO comes to my mind , I type jagoinvestor.com, this time I came to see about withdrawal which I did last year for the EPF and got the whole amount , yesterday they send Form 10C to my house. And after going thru your blog post I released that its for EPS , as I completed 9 yrs in service they would be providing me Rs.6500×9.88 as my EPS withdrawal amount as per your post https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2012/05/epf-facts-employee-providend-fund.html , point 4. Again if you want me to send you all my RTI request and reply for others who are going thru same pain , I can send u the same and u put it up somewhere for references for our friends who are still in dark about their EPF and how to get it back.
Thanks & Regards
Hitesh Agrawal
Yes, please do that .. it will be helpful
Manish,
Can you share your email id with me , so that I can send you the whole documentation with RTI applications filed by me and the corresponding responses by EPF.
Thanks
Hitesh Agrawal
Dear Manish,
Very good information,
Infact i am also awaiting t my PF settlement from past 2 years. Finally i got some part of amount, i think it may be the part of pension fund.
but in the EPFo site is showing that my PF account has been settled and send tghe NEFT transaction on 28/july/2014. but the amount is not credited in my account….
they have paid to the SBI bank , who settles the final money . So you will get the money . File a RTI !
hi manish.
me and some of my friends face an issue.
we have a pf account from previous employer.6 years before.we have closed that account while we change the job.
the peevious company is closed now.but we forget the old pf account number.
for background varification new company is asking for old pf number.we cant get any information from previous employer as no one is there.
is it possible to get the closed pf number which we dont know by providing name and previous details through RTI
Hi Manish
Appreciate the step taken by you which is helping so many people with their PF’s
I also require your help, I applied for transfer of my PF amount from previous employer, current employer delayed in processing my request, after 8 months of my request, current employer sent request to previous employer for transfer ( I hold courier details for the same), previous employer sent cheque after another 4 months. When I did my math, cheque amount is short by Rs.26k, previous employer gave reason saying my account classified as “Unclaimed status” for 9 months (delay on account my current employer processing my transfer request) and paying me only 4.00% interest for this period, hence shortage. They have also deducted TDS for the transferred amount. And current employer is saying EPFO will take 6-8 months to credit my current PF account. Kindly let me know below queries
1. When is the PF account classified as “unclaimed status” ? & is reduced interest applicable in such case ?
2. Is TDS applicable for transfer ?
3. What you advise my next step to recover Rs. 26K & to get the amount credited ?
4. Does EPFO take 6-8 months to credit ?
Thanks & Regards
Raj
1. I think if its not active for 3 yrs , only then its inaction , else not
2. I have not heard of it
3. File a RTI with EPFO on this to understand how it works in your case
4. Yes it can happen ..
Dear Sir,
I worked in Vasavi College of Engineering, Hyderabad as Professor for 12 years. Now I am 65 year old. During my tenure in that college (1994 – 2006) , I was literally humiliated by the management and I resigned from the job instantly without giving three months notice which was a mutual agreement. Now they are not signing my PF document and I am losing money for almost no fault of mine. The PF authorities say that I should get signature from the college authorities since that college is now existing.
Please advise me what I should do
Best regards,
Prof. Dr. E. G. Rajan
There is no such requirement . Even if PF authorities are saying that, its not true .. they might want a bribe from you . Just file a RTI and ask for this so that you have an official answer in your hands !
Manish
@Ramkumar
I am also messed up with a similar problem. I submitted by PF trasfer forms from epfo chennai to epfo bommasandra some 3yrs back. Recently i came to know from epfo bommasandra that the epfo chennai has issued a cheque to epfo bangalore instead of epfo bommasandra, so the transfer is still not processed.
Can you check in the NEFT details if the transfer was made to epfo, K R Puram or epfo, Bangalore. The reason for this messup is recently the epfo, bangalore was bifurcated into many new epfo offices.
HI Abhilash.. better file the RTI asap on this issue .
Hi Manesh,
I have filed griviences and RTI with both epfo. Now chennai epfo has taken up this issue and are following up with epfo bangalore to get the money reversed so that they can transfer to my correct account.
Thanks Manish for your support through this portal. It really helped me a lot.
Welcome 🙂
Hi Abilash, I checked with Chennai EPFO and they are clear that they have transferred this to EPFO KR Puram, it was a NEFT. Apart from Filing RTI ( which am doing currently ) the Chennai EPFO Staff also suggested a website called as http://epfigms.gov.in/, where grievance can be registered. Am trying that too
Will keep you guys posted on whats happening on both fronts. Thanks!
Sure ! .. Better check with the target now and show them the reply from the source (Chennai EPFO)
Hi manish
My old PF account was with Chennai RPFO and when I joined my current organisation ( at Delhi ) in 2011, I had applied for a transfer for the PF amount to the new PF account. In this case, incidentally, the erstwhile organisation maintained PF accounts of employees at Chennai RPFO and the new organisation maintained their PF at RPFO, KR Puram, Bangalore.
All the papers were submitted and in due course I checked the EPFO website last year for the old PF number, which showed that the account has been settled. I knew the actual amount transfer might take a while from Chennai to Bangalore and I contacted Bangalore RPFO via phone. After a number of tries, someone picked the phone and when I quoted my old and new PF account numbers, curtly replied – Cheque not yet received. I was aghast.
I contacted Chennai RPFO and thanks and due credit to them, they responded immediately both over phone and mail giving me all relevant documents ( annexure K, HTML screenshot of the transfer details with the NEFT Number, date etc ) . I armed myself with this data and tried reachint KR Puram Office via phone again ( am based out of Delhi ). It has been 2 months now. No one picked the phone at KR Puram Office and no reply to mails. The E passbook downloaded also does not give any status of the old PF amount transfer. I am actually clueless now as to how to ensure amount is credited to my new account ( with interest )
Need your advice as to how can I get this confirmation of the transfer from KR Puram office and how to ensure the old balance also reflects in my new PF account?
The best thing you can do now is to file a RTI and ask your questions, they will have to reply to them as they are legally bound !
Hi Manish,
My case is little complex in comparison to mentioned above. I have been transferred 4 times in group companies by my previous employer. 1st 3 yrs with RSL and then transferred to REL where i spent approx 9 months and 2 Yrs with RCSL and finally to RSL back where i spent close to 8 months new epf account in RSL. When i was in RCSL company initiated bulk EPF transfer of many employee from REL\RSL to RCSL EPF accounts in Aug/Sep of 2012. Though REL & RCSL EPF account were maintained by Dwarka EPFO Office, the amount transferred in six months, But my RSL epf was maintain by Bandra Mumbai Office, which is still not received at Dwarka EPFO as i reply received after filing online grieviance but as per online status of EPFO web old RSL account has been settled. Now i also have filed online Grievance to Bandra Office & online RTI as well a week before to get the status about where the PF lying or gone when it has not been received in RCSL epf account.
Now my questions are:
1. The PF transterred from REL to RCSL was execluding Pension funds what should i do for it should i file RTI or Grievance to PF updated?
2. My RCSL epf account is also inactive now whether the transfer will happen to this account from old RSL account which is not updated till now?
3. Now I had new RSL account with same Bandra Office, can i withdraw it now when there is already a mess with pf transfer with same office.
4. Can i apply to previous employer for PF withdrawal for RCSL and RSL new account PF together (both are at separate epfo). What can i do if old RSL PF not received with withdrawal of RCSL.
I will be very thankful if you or anybody can help on this complex situation.
This is a bit complicated one 🙂 .. I think RTI will give you the best answers , wait for it !
Dear Manish,
kindly reply asap,so that i can send the RTI and move the process forward.
Regards,
Prasenjit
Dear Manish,
after lot of hue and cry,the company has finally send me PF Number.
1.As suggested by you i tried to do online grivevance at EPFO website.But could not do it was asking for employer Code.I tried my best to locate the employer code but could not.
2.Should i send a hand-written complaint/grievance letter to PF commissioner at PF H.O at Bikaji Cama Place?
3.For filing the RTI what will be the address in favour of? I am stationed at Delhi and the company is based at Worli and corporate office at Nariman Point.In Mumbai,there are 2-3 branches of PF offices.What will be exact correct address to whom the RTI has to be send?.I have already drafted the RTI,only waiting for the address.
4.Can i locate my Account amount online?What is the correct process to check it?Hope RTI helps me to get my PF amount long awaited……….
Awaiting your reply asap.
Regards,
Prasenjit
Submitted my first ever RTI and that too for PF transfer. Lets see how it works out. Thanks to Manish for sharing this vital information. Hope it works out well.
I am sure the results will be much better this way compared to online complaints and all .. Wait for 40-50 days and you will get the update
Manish
Hi Manish,
Is there a way to track the status of the RTI application which has been delivered to EPFO? Or should I just wait for someone to get back to me over an email or call?
There is no way .. you will get a reply once they get it and also when they reply back !
As per speed post site, the RTI was delivered on 12th May but I haven’t received any call yet. The waiting game is just killing me.
You need to wait a lot then .. as per RTI rules, they can take upto 35 days officially from the date they recieve the RTI .. so technically, you should get the reply by mid-june only !
It is 30th June and I have not received any reply yet. Any ideas on how to escalate this?
Dear Manish,
eagerly awaiting for your reply
Regards,
Prasenjit De
Dear Manish,
As suggested by an expert i would like to file a RTI in the PF office.I have few queries:-
1.It is a very old case of PF withdrawal of nearly 16 years and i was not provided my PF number by the company so far,despite several reminders.Can i still go ahead with the RTI?
2.The company is based Worli,Mumbai and i am based at Dwarks,Delhi.So RTI is to be send to which PF office-Mumbai or Delhi and in which branch?
3.As suggested by many of the posts in your forum,should i first go for the online grievance redressal at the PF website and then followed by RTI in a weeks time?
4.Which one is a better and successful result oriented option-RTI send by Speed Post/Regd Post or through Rtination?
Awaiting your feedback asap.
Regards,
Prasenjit De
1. You first need to get the PF number, if you dont have it , you first need to file the RTI to find out your PF number. Tell them your company name old one and ask for PF number
2. Mumbai
3. Yes
4. RTI by Speed post !
Dear Manish,
after lot of hue and cry,the company has finally send me PF Number.
1.As suggested by you i tried to do online grivevance at EPFO website.But could not do it was asking for employer Code.I tried my best to locate the employer code but could not.
2.Should i send a hand-written complaint/grievance letter to PF commissioner at PF H.O at Bikaji Cama Place?
3.For filing the RTI what will be the address in favour of? I am stationed at Delhi and the company is based at Worli and corporate office at Nariman Point.In Mumbai,there are 2-3 branches of PF offices.What will be exact correct address to whom the RTI has to be send?.I have already drafted the RTI,only waiting for the address.
4.Can i locate my Account amount online?What is the correct process to check it?Hope RTI helps me to get my PF amount long awaited……….
Awaiting your reply asap.
Regards,
Prasenjit
Because your account is too old, I am sure by now its inoperative . The best thing you can do now is file the RTI only . You can find the address of RTI office for Mumbai on PF website .
You can use the same template I have given on this article
Manish
hi Manish.
My pf amount is not settled from around 2 yrs.and whenever i check the status online.it show your amount has settled and contact to epfo office..please help me out.what action i have to take related to this.my epf a/c no is…MH/BAN/48417/27005. Mumbai bandra office…..really now i m very frustrated..
Just file a RTI and ask for this . It will settled in 2 months . You can see many people in this comments section who have done it and successfully got it !
okkk …but its not clearing on net that what is the Actual Charges of POSTAL for Mumbai Bandra. Please tell me so that i can take further step.
Hi Manish,
My previous company had a PF trust instead of govt. PF account from which I resigned in Nov 2010 and applied for a transfer in July 2011 into my current PF account with my current company that has a govt. PF account.
I have been waiting for more than 3 years now and continuous follow ups have been taken place with my old company. They provided me the Annexure K and their bank statement which correctly reflects that they have released the amount via cheque in Sep 2012 which has already debited from their account. However, when I checked the PF balance online and also downloaded the passbook updated till 28 Mar 2014, I don’t see that amount into my current PF statement/passbook.
Finally, I filed an RTI application to PF department on 28 March 2014, for which I received a hard copy of a letter at my address few days back stating that it has been sent to the relevant authority.
It has already been more than 30 days since I filed this RTI. Could you please give me some idea as to how do I know if I will get some positive response or any response at all as to know what is going on. Its such a pain!!
Wait for some more time .. at times I have seen RTI replies coming back in 45-50 days ! .. The reply has to come for sure . if it does not come, then let me know again !
Hi Manish,
It has been more than 2 months now, but I haven’t got any update on the RTI.
When I check the status online on: https://rtionline.gov.in/request/status.php
it shows the same as it did before:
The registration number is: MLABE/R/2014/60912
My Email Address is: ankitvaish04@gmail.com
Please advice.
Hi Ankit
You can now file another next RTI again .. it happens at times
Hi Manish
I have applied to transfer my PF balance to new employer in Dec’12, My new company PF is maintained by our own PF trust
When I checked the status online it showed the status as “Approved, payment under process” till Dec’13. after that its not showing any status. So I raised a online grievance, last month,
They replied to my grievance saying amount was transferred to new PF account in Feb’13 itself, they mentioned the cheque number also
But when I checked with my Hr team they confirmed that they have not received any cheque.
then I again raised a grievance and mentioned about our HR team comments
I got the same reply from PF office, but this time they sent me the Annexure K, I forwarded annexure K to our Hr team, but they again said the amount was not received.
So I raised third grievance asking proof of delivery of cheque & also asking them check the status of the cheque, but I didn’t get any reply for more then 20days.
can you advise me the what I have to now? shall I go for RTI?
All you need to do now if file a RTI and follow up .. This will speed up the whole process
Hi Manish
They have send the amount to wrong office instead of my present employers trust
finally they found it few months back & transferred it to my new account
Now the problem is they have not given interest for the intermediate black period (that is almost 2 years)
So I have raised a grievance for this & got a reply
“you are requested to submit advance stamped receipt (in Form No.13) duly attested by the employer for transfer of balance interest amount”
but our employer says there is no advance stamped receipt in form 13
Do you have any idea about it , if possible can you send me the form if available
Thanks in advance
Anand
Hi Anand
Did you raise the issue with RTI ? Because without RTI you dont get proper answer , Ask your queries and what needs to be done in RTI
Can I submit, PF tranfer form without attestation of current or previous employer. DO PF office send that form to my previous employer for atatestation.
Yes, they will send it to your previous employer for signatures. you dont have to do it !
Thanks. I have send filled transfer forms without attestation to concerned PF office. Both companies i.e. present and earlier comes under same PF office. However nothing happened in last two months.
File RTI !
I had filed Grievance on PF website and there reply is as below:
This is to inform you that the claim F/13 has been rejected as it was not attested by the previous or present employer. Hence you are requested to submit the claim F/13 duly filled and attested by the employer or by online. Thanks.
If its possible for you to get it attested by your past employer do it !
above PF cheque deposite is from TATA trust to pune PF office
Question ?
hey manish,…thanks an infinity…i got the amt just now under ur assistance through
RTI process….am so grateful to you……..keep up ur good n needful work for all those needy people……..
thank u friend
Welcome 🙂 .. just help someone else who needs this and you will do your bit 🙂
Its been more than 10 days i have filed RTI to Bandra PF Office along with the proof that they received my application. , but no reply till now..
would like to know any other alternative solution to get the amt ASAP.
Plz help me out Manish
I guess you got the money already 🙂
hai manish i have got my epf money 24 hours. thank u manish. i was file an rti after 6 hours back epf rti officer send massage and phone ha said we are not received your form .i told sir i was send my application 23.10.13 but my employer was not send my application.after half hour my calling me he is told you wrongley enter your date of birth he is telling he take and gone to be my app.after 24 hour epf office credit with money on my bamk account
Wow .. thats amazing 🙂 .. congrats !
Hello Manish,
I will be going to file the RTI for the PF transfer delay.
As gone thru this blog, I understand that I need to pay the application fees. i.e. 10 or 50 depending on state. (I am in Maharashtra and want to transfer from Mumbai to pune).
As per my information, There is additional fees for rs. 2/- per page for the information. how to pay this fees?. I am worried that I wiil pay rs. 10 as postal order and if they found that information is of 20 pages, then fees will be rs. 50/- (application rs 10/- and xerox/print per page =20 X 2 =rs.40/-) please help me. how I know that how meany pages information is? and how to pay it inadvance?
I am actually not aware of the answer .
But I think you can pay the fees right away itself . And in the RTI letter itself, tell them that you have paid the required fees in advance .. In worst case you will loose the money , but thats fine 🙂
Hello All,
Good news and experience…
I have filed the RTI for PF cheque deposite on 13th march 2014. I received feedback from PF office on 2nd April 2014. they says your amount is received to PF office but not credited to your current account because of “you have not submited Annexure K”. Thay are informing this to me when I have filed RTI and asked for transfer status. This amount is credited to this PF office in August 2014 (As stated in RTI feedback). so why not they informed me earlier? my question is whether this Annexure K is necessery for amount transfer to current PF account or ther are just giving excuses.(As my HR feels so)
Finally thanks to Manish sir for valuable information regarding RTI in this forum.
Thanks for sharing that Nilesh ! .. great that you got this sorted out !
My question is, whether the Annexure K is necessery for amount transfer to current PF account from Private trust or PF office is just giving excuses.
Hi,
I have filed RTI for my PF status (22/02/2014), Paid Rs.150. however this morning when I visit the same website http://www.rtination.com, it says the account is suspended. Any clue?
Thanks,
Harmony
Thanks Manish for guiding us through this Portal. This is truly informative.
I have received an email from rtination.com, they have drafted few questions on my behalf and addressed it to The Public Information Officer
Regional Provident Fund Commissioner II.
Thanks you for your help!
This will be helpful for readers seeking help regarding their PF withdrawal issues. Read on!
1) What is the current status of my application for PF Withdrawal for my PF Account No.: MH / ***** / *****
2) What is the EPF Balance amount in my PF account no. MH / ***** / *****
3) By when will I get the PF amount credited to my savings account as mentioned in the form?
4) What will happen to the interest on the amount in question for the period after (for eg: 20 Nov 2013)?
5) Please provide the name and the contact number of the officer to whom my request has been assigned?
6) Please inform me period prescribed by your office for full settlement of P.F. dues of the employee and action prescribed for not settling claim in prescribed time limit.
7) I am intimated details of First Appellate Authority under RTI Act 2005 with detailed postal and email address etc.
Good work by them. Thanks!
I have no idea on that !
The Website is working now!
I received an email from gms@epfindia.gov.in today regarding the grievance that I filed at EPFIGMS at http://epfigms.gov.in/ They state that they have received my claim form and the amount is settled today and they would be sending both the cheques (PF and EPS) to my Bank.
This was faster than RTI.
Thank you Manish. I really appreciate this blog initiated by you. It is wonderful. Nahi to mera office-office hone walla tha. 🙂
Bless you!
I tried ti file the griviance on the said website. but it gives the errors of establishment code and name. and repetadely asking for the same information even if i had provided it correctly. please guide me to file the griviance.
Hi Nilesh,
Initially I had the same difficulty. Try this
In the Grievance Registration form select
State Code first, then type the name of the Name of Establishment (Your Office Name) and hit Tab again then add the Establishment code and your Account Number hit tab once more. it will fetch the rest of the details by itself.
All the best buddy.
Thanks for helping other members on jagoinvestor . really appreciate it 🙂
Finally, I have received the money today!!!!!!!
Hi Manish,
I am struggling with PF transfer from previous to current employer.
The first application was rejected saying” DOB/DOJ/DOL” not present.
So, I sent another form 13. This time I have the acknowledgement copy given by the EPF office. But, when I raised online grievance to check the status of my PF transfer, the grievance was closed saying no F/13 received and that I should submit a fresh claim.
I have the acknowledgement copy signed by the EPF Office with details of previous and current employer PR accounts. My current employer thinks that I should go ahead and re-initiate the process the third time.
I am quite frustrated with the reasons given by them.
What would be right way to go ahead? Should I file an RTI for second application that got rejected or file third application and then immediately raise an RTI for it?
Thanks in advance for your valuable comments.
PS: – It been 15 months since I moved to new employer.
Are you following the full procedure and filling up the full form ? I suggest you use RTI as a tool to communicate and ask things from EPFO each time .
I had filled the full Form 13 (Revised) and sent it the first time.
But, I let it go thinking I might have missed some date like DOB/DOJ/DOL.
So, I did not follow up much then.
But, the second time, I am 100% sure as I filled in all the details in form 13 and sent it to my current employer. It stamped it and sent the application to concerned EPF Office. On submission of the same, scanned copy of the acknowledgement copy was provided to me which clearly states that form 13 was submitted to the EPF Office. And, it has even stamp of the EPF office on it.
In spite of all this, my second application was rejected with reason as “This is to inform you that claim F/13 alongwith transfer call memo has not been received. Thanks.”
So, I am not confused as to how can they say no form 13 received when I have the acknowledgement copy. I had even attached the same while raising grievance. But, yet, the reply was what is pasted above.
hmm.. ok then this needs to be followed up with RTI only, or if you have access to the PF office personally then visit it. File a RTI mentioning the ACK date and ask them about it .
Hi Manish,
Just a question, can Ganesh take this issue to consumer court? Would it be any favourable for him?
Yes he can take that, But let that be the last resort !
Hi Manish,
I have sent the pf withdrawal application 3 times, for first time (2006)it got rejected because employer had not signed the formes, sencod (in 2007) and third time (in 2012), but it got rejected with the reason saying that PF already withdrawal
So filed RTI and last week I got the reply for RTI application.
Due to some tecnhical issue this issue was occured and now they have corrected it. They are saying to reapply with forms and affidavit but now they will pay the same ammount which was the balance during 2007. They haven’t mentioned about paying the interest (from 2007 till date). In this was can we do to get the last 6/7 years interest?
Thanks,
Sandip
Is it inactive account ? If its inactive, then its not liable to get interest from the period it become inactive. BUt otherwise you should get the interest. You should reach to consumer court on this matter
On govt pf site I was not able to see my account, it was giving me invalid account. I belive they had closed my account under the assumption of pay out. Does it mean that it is inactive account?
Yes probably. If your EPF account is not getting any contribution of money, then its a INACTIVE account , file RTI now to know more and apply for EPF withdrawal or transfer to your current EPF account
Hi sir
my friend have worked at one of the company in Bangalore branch , this company basically Mumbai & head office also in mumbai . 3 months back submitted the PF claim form to this company HR team, still not received the PF amount, as we have checked in online EPF office, as they have told still not submitted you PF claim form to PF office & also checked with HR team they have told still 6 month it will take to clear the PF claim due to our establishment PF office is in MUMBAI
so how can i file the RTI againest this issue, please help
regards,
Rajashekara
A company has to submit the EPF forms after 2 months , if they have still not done that , then you should complain to EPFO on this.
I was tasked by my manager to sort out a PF issue of a colleague. He was struggling to get his PF money transferred to our company account and company finance guys were not of much help. I simply forwarded the link to this article to him and asked him to file RTI. He read through the article filed RTI without my assistance and lo and behold, the money was transferred in a couple of months and his issue is resolved.
Wow .. thats a great news ! . I am honoured !
Hi Manish,
Thanks for taking pains for this wondergul article….& most importantly replying for each query….
Recently i applied for PF transfer from past emplyer ( pune ) to present employer ( chennai)…I initiated online trasfer process (OTCP)… Initially it worked very fast ..
My both the employer approved the form 13 ( online ) about my particulars…
Then after few days …status was updated with comment from PF ofice…your form-13 is approved & payment under process….i was extremely happy…
But suddently yesterday i found my application rejected with below reson ( no reason )…..I did googling & found there are many people whose PF transfer application rejected similar fashion…..
Now I doubt whether it is some bug or real reason for rejecting the PF transfer ….Any how i already filed my grievance with EPFO pune ( online portal )…
Can you put your thoughts in this direction ?? is it bug in their portal or there could be real reson to reject PF transfer application….my doubt is once pf status was application was approved & payment under way how suddently it got rejected..
This is what online status shows….
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Current Status :Claim Form 13 for Transfer to New Account Number: AGAINST Old Member Account has been rejected. Rejection letter is under dispatch/ dispatched to address in your claim.
Reason of rejection: The reason of rejection is not available in database. You may please contact RO/SRO PUNE for further details
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Any feed back from you in this regard would be highly appreciated….
Thanks,
Manoj
I think the best way you can find the status is file the RTI for this . File it to Pune office asking for the status of EPF transfer and why it was rejected ?
Hi manish…
It seems there is some problem/bug in EPFO system…..because i confirmed ….my PF got transferred …but still online shows it got rejected….
I got the confirmation from my present employer about transfer….also it got clarified through my grievance …i filed with EPFO pune…
Hence i suggest whom ever see such status online…beter get in touch with your present employer & file grievance with EPFO to get clarified…
Thanks, Manoj
Thanks for the update ! , you know how govt websites and systems work !
Hi Manish,
I raised a request to transfer EPF from old (Hyd) to current (Bangalore) employer. As per EPFO website status (when I give old EPF number) , money and annexure K is transferred thru NEFT.
When I contacted my new employer, they are saying they have not received Annexure K for this transfer.
Please note that New employer maintain PF with Trust and not with EPF office.
Please let me know if RTI can help me here? Do I need to file 2 RTI?
thanks
Ramesh
You can surely file RTI to EPFO office, but I dont think that you can do it with Trust !
Hi Manish,
thanks for your response. I had earlier raised a grivence with Hyd EPFO office asking for Annexure K copy either to my email address or postal address. They sent me that in email and my current employer accepted it hence I did not have to file RTI.
regards
Ramesh
Manish,
Its an eye opener article and a great contribution to the employee community.
Thanks for posting this.
I think almost all employees are least bothered about the PF at the time of employment but will start bothering when it becomes needy in the future.
So, by going through article, I just learnt that I couldn’t opt out PF in first case
and also I couldn’t obtain pension scheme certificate for transferring the same from old to new in two different companies and as a result 6 years * 541 rupees is lost now.
I have question here, almost every article talks about withdrawal of PF money after changing a job is illegal if and only if the joining company has Gov PF facility as with latter one or otherwise we should atleast wait for minimum of 2 months to become eligible to withdraw or in the event of job lost situations.
I have withdrawn the PF only once by breaking the above rule but people didn’t ask me to provide any supporting documents for withdrawing the same. But there was a reason for withdrawal was mentioned for construction of the house.
Do we have any authentic link which can detail it out regarding the same from PF website for breaking the rules?
Now, I am planning to withdraw the PF again as I have spent 9.5 years in two different organisations and total money is coming upto 17Lakh including EPS. Now, I want to construct a house for which looking to withdraw the same and as per your article or a discussion forum, you said that
The maximum amount you can avail of is 36 times your wages
36* monthly basic salary(55000) and currently it exceeds my PF amount balance itself.
I believe, by this caluculation, I am eligible to withdraw amount in full as balance is below the given the math despite of company as well.
If I quote a reason as construction and withdraw the PF money in full with the standard procedures by submitting EPF and EPS forms, would that be fine or should I need to follow different procedure altogether here. I may get new PF account with new company so not sure what to do please suggest?
You can quote the reason as construction of the house and I think you will have to also provide some details and documents other wise you can use it for some other purpose . Also I think you should file a RTI to EPFO and ask these things as it will then be WHITE info .
Thank you very much for your valuable guidance Manish…I shall file an RTI and then await the reply.
Between, I have gone through the process of filing the RTI.. Its of immense help.
But I have just got one doubt!
In my case, the EPFO office at Pune where my PF account is maintained and the EPFO office at Pune where the RTI officer or CAPIO/CPIO are situated are at different locations (in same Pune) [I have got the address of CPIO from EPFO website and the PF account office address was given by my erstwhile organization].
So, to which address should I send the RTI and on which name & address I have to draw the IPO?
Where the CPIO sits ! .. Dont worry much , file it and it will travel back to the right place.just that it will take more time !
Hello Manish,
I am from Hyderabad.
I had submitted the necessary forms for PF withdrawal (10c & 19) at my previously worked organization (Capgemini India Pvt. Ltd.) in June, 2013.
But till date, I had not received my PF. Upon contacting the capgemini office, they have given me a proof of forwarding my pf withdrawal request to the concerned EPFO office at Pune (though i worked at hyderabad, the pf account was maintained at pune). I had tried to contact the epfo office, but in vain.
Now, I intend to file a case against epfo regarding the same in the concerned court.
Can you please guide me on how to go about in this matter? (Or is there any better solution?) Does filing RTI help my case?
If I have to go via court, I wish to know to which court and where I have to approach and what is the process, and etc.. details.
Thanks in advance,
Raghav.
You can always move to CONSUMER COURT , but before that you must have contacted EPFO department for this, else your court case will not be valid. I can see that you can solve this case of yours easily with help of RTI , just keep patience and file a simple RTI asking for your status from Pune EPFO department . Give them all the details . also attach the xerox of proof which your company has given . Wait for 30-40 days after filing and you should get this moving !
Hello Manish,
Please clarify, since the company I was working got acquired and the PF was tranferred from bangalore to Mumbai. Had submitted the form through company. After few years came to know that the transfer had not happened, by online chequebook of EPF. Raised a grieviance at Mumbai EPF and it was closed that the transfer had not happened from bangalore. Then raised a grievance with Bangalore and response was the cheque was returned from Mumbai. My account has become dormant without interest. Confused what to do next. Please clarify on raising the RTI on both Mumbai and Bangalore EPF.
Thanks, Giri
The first thing is to raise a RTI letter to your SOURCE (bangalore) and ask if the transfer has happened or not . and if not, what is the status, what needs to be done .
Then do what they say . If they say transfer has happened from their side, then file RTI to Mumbai asking what is the status !
Thanks Manish, for your feedback. Have filed an RTI with the Source PF office.
Waiting for the RTI response.
Wait for 35-40 day !
Hello Manish,
Please clarify.
Had submitted RTI on Jan31.
Till date have not received any letter or mail communication.
What needs to be done next?
How do we find the status of the RTI.
Thanks,
Girish
Go slow on it. Its just 15 days . You should wait for around 45-50 days in total
Hello Manish,
Had filed the RTI on 5th Jan 2014. The transfer has not yet happened. Checked the balance and there is no info on this transfer.
Please clarify regarding how to check the status of this RTI.
Thanks,
Girish
Its around 55 days now .. I think wait for 10 more days and if you dont get any reply from RTI , then refile a RTI mentioning about the first RTI
Ok. Thanks a lot Manish.
Girish
Dear Manish,
Thanks for this information you shared here.
I would really appreciate if you help me out .
a) I used work at A. 2008-2010
b) Joined B(2010-2-2012). Opted for PF transfer.
c) Never bothered about status of transfer.
d) Now work at C. Before leaving B, I received some signed acknowledgement saying they received cheque from A and is submitted
e) But that amount never reflected in PF acc of B.
f) RTI filed for B says there was no transfer application received.
I am not sure how to get my money from A and B.
Really appreciate for any any info you provide
Thanks.
It means that the transfer procedure was never initiated. Now if you have access to company A , ask them for help, else you will have to do that yourself !
Hi Manish,
thanks for the detailed information.
I changed companies within Bangalore five years back, and PF money has still not been transferred from old PF account to new one.
the old PF account was with Sub Regional Office on Hosur Road, Bangalore. the new PF account is with Regional office on Bhavishyanidhi Bhavan, Bangalore.
a year back, i filed a withdrawal claim at the SRO which was rejected, as they claimed that money had already been transferred to new account!
Needless to say, the new PF account shows no trace of the transfer.
I have already filed an online grievance at http://epfigms.gov.in/, if this doesnt work i will file an RTI.
as the transfer is within Bangalore, do you think i need to file two RTIs – one at the SRO and one at the RO? or a single one filed at RO would be sufficient?
Thanks,
Munish
If the EPFO branch changes, then yes you need to file two different RTI’s !
Manish
Thanks Manish.
I chanced upon one more resource – the Directorate of Public Grievances (http://www.dpg.gov.in) which helps to resolve grievances related to Central Govt. organizations including EPF.
They also have a link to testimonials from people helped by DPG (http://dpg.gov.in/Complainants_view.aspx).
This may also be worth a shot, anyway first i will wait for a response for the complaint filed via (http://epfigms.gov.in/).
Regards,
Munish
Thanks Munish.
I have lodge a grievance at (http://www.dpg.gov.in) today. Hopefully I’d hear from them soon.
Was your complaint handled to your satisfaction?
It would be too early to say that I have not received any reply from Directorate of Public Grievances (http://www.dpg.gov.in).
I have initiated another grievance with EPFIGMS at (http://epfigms.gov.in/)
If required you should also file a RTI application which will speed up your request
I have received an email from gms@epfindia.gov.in today regarding the grievance filed at EPFIGMS at http://epfigms.gov.in/ They state that they have received my claim form and the amount is settled today and they would be sending both the cheques (PF and EPS) to my bank.
This was faster than RTI.
Thank you Munish and Manish. Bless you!
Finally. I have received the money today!!!!!!!
Nice ! m congrats !
Hello,
I have received a mail from PF office stating that my amount has been transferred to CECIS PF Trust and EPS has been transferred to RPFC Bhawan. How can I claim that amount?
Thanks.
I think only RTI use will help you . That is the fastest way !
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BBojfRtsagrVyLqTy9dC8Ia1h4letC-h0tNwzfNdF2I/edit
While filling RTI application Online for PF transfer which Ministry/Department/Apex body to be selected?
You have to choose EPFO
Correct category for online RTI is Ministry of Labour & Employment.
Hi Manish,
I want to know one thing, In my case transfer of PF (employee and employer share) has been settled against form 13, but pension fund was not.
When I filed RTI to know the reason, it was stated that transfer occurred between two un-exempted establishment so question of EPS transfer does not arise.
Please tell me that weather this amount can be claimed or not?
Was your a trust managed company ?
both are directly maintained by EPFO itself, previous account was in Hyderabad and present account is in Karnataka. I suppose that I can download passbook only in case of not maintained by trust. I have both the passbook.
Hi Manish,
With reference to my query number 609 on http://www.jagoinvestor.com on July 04, 2013, I have drafted the RTI application. Please let me know if this is all i need to ask in RTI or am I missing something?
“I received a mail from EPFO stating the reason for rejection as ‘Claim already settled’. I would like to know the following things:
1. Please tell me the status of my application. The reason for rejection of my application is mentioned as ‘claim already settled’. If the claim has been settled, where was it paid?
2. Please let me know the current balance in my account and if the interest is accruing or not.
3. Please tell the contact details of concerned person/office with addresses, phone numbers and email addresses and timings of the bank where my claim has been settled.
4. Please tell me the procedure to withdraw my money from the settlement bank if the claim has been settled there.
4. Please provide details of First Appellate Authority under RTI Act 2005 with detailed postal and email address etc. for this RTI application.
Thanks!
Yea . this look good . JUst see if you can make each question more precise !
dear manish,
it is to inform you that i work for wyeth ltd since feb 1996. the company was taken over by pfizer ltd in march 2010 and the jobs were transfered to plizer ltd. after the job transferes the pfizer had send the forms for the transfer of p f. as soon as we recieve the forms i sign it and send it back to the company H.R. BUT THE P .F. is not transfered till date.please note that the pfizer ltd has a P F TRUST. since i had not contributed to old p f please let me know wheather i am getting the interest or not. as per my knowledge no interest will be paid after 3 years, also please let me know wheather the interest for march 2013 will be paid to me or not.
please help
thanks
Hi Manish:
I worked for an organization for 5 months and due to some personal relocation reason I need to leave the organization, but the employer is unhappy with this decision and in turn asking me to pay a sum of money as compensation. Now he has also mentioned he is not going to clear PF if this money is not paid to them. Is there any way wherein I can claim my PF directly from PF office instead going through employer as I know that PF is already deposited to PF office account.
Please help with your advise
Read this – https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2012/11/withdraw-your-epf-without-employer-signature.html
Hi,
My Wife was with Amdocs, Pune. In March 2007, we got married and after in May she resigned from there and joined TCS, Noida. After marriage, she acquired my surname and all the documents were updated with the same.
She applied for the transfer of PF through TCS, many times, but got rejected due to the name change. We even attached the copy of the marriage certificate and an application stating the reason of name change but to no avail.
Recently I came to know about the online transfer of account and ePassbook facility. I registered over there but it does not generate the passbook stating the reason as ‘In-operative member’. It also tells me to contact the EPFO Office.
Please guide us how to proceed form here. As we are living in Delhi, do we need to visit EPFO office, Pune? Can we visit any EPFO office in Delhi for this In-operative member problem?
Please help.
Thanks,
Tarun
Hi Tarun
The best I can say is File a RTI now to Pune office and ask them “the procedure in case of name change due to marriage” . Once you get the reply do what they say . Follow RTI and its usage and I am sure in some months only you will get the money in your account. I know its a bit tough to crack this EPF thing and it sucks your blood, but RTI is the best thing at the moment
I had applied for the PF transfer from Bangalore office to Pune office. The transfer took place in 2007. However Pune office is not able to enter the transfer in their records because Pune office didn’t receive Annexure K which is required to complete the PF transfer.
I have raised so many grievances against both the offices but didn’t receive any proper respose.
Should I use RTI as weapon to get it done? if yes to whom I should ask information? source or target EPF office?
All you need to do is File a RTI to Pune office and mention all the details . If something was not recieved , they will act on it !
Ask for deadlines
Manish
Hi Manish,
Thanks for your help. I filed a RTI and got my PF amount transferred within 2 months. Easiest and Cheapest way… 🙂
Navin
Great .. thanks for sharing that !
hi Manish,
Thanks for sharing such an useful information. My PF transfer was pending from a very long time and after going through your article I decided to file an RTI.
My PF transfer is within the same city(Pune). But my old PF was registered in another office(Pimpri) within Pune.
So I filed an RTI at the Pimpri office to know if they have taken any action on my PF trasfer. And within 20 days after i filed the RTI I got a detailed reply from them stating that they have started the transfer process and the check has been released to the Pune PF office.
After few days I received an sms from EPFO stating that the Pune office has received my application for transfer. and in another few days I got an another sms stating that “Form 50(Transfer in) claim id: pun XXXXX rejected. Rejection letter is under dispatch”.
I haven’t received any rejection letter yet. So I am planning to file an RTI at the Pune office. My question to you is do I need to attach the RTI letter I received from Pimpri office while submitting the application. and what else things should i ask them ?
Nice .. Another RTI success story !
All you need to do is give reference number of the past RTI (you have that reference number on top of the letter) . To be on safer side you can actually attach the Xerox letter also . It will not hurt anyways . Just make sure you do not leave this matter now and finally take all the actions .I am very sure your EPF will be in your hands very soon 🙂
ANd you can give me party also , I am in pune only 🙂
Manish
Hi,
Thank you very much for the detailed explanation.
I have a query regarding my PF withdrawal. I quit my job in 2009 September since I was going out of India for my studies. I was told to submit the withdrawal forms 90 days after I quit, which I did. I did receive an acknowledgement from my previous employer once they submitted the form to EPF office. But I did not receive any money or details about it, hence raise a grievance in Oct 2011. For which I received a reply from EPF office in July 2012.
They said that my cheques were processed, and sent to the bank, but they were returned, and I had to send a letter for reissuance, attested by my previous employer. I did send the letter in August 2012, which my employer says they submitted.
I raised a grievance again in Jan 2013 since nothing had happened, for which received a reply in Aug saying that my case is pending under EPFIGMS but no record found, and asked me to submit fresh claim again.
Now I am not sure what I am supposed to do. Do i send a reissuance letter again, or do I start the process from the beginning?
Any help would be Appreciated, thanks.
Hello.
By good luck I got your site..
I am going to file RTI for my PF withdrawal. I applied for it in Feb 2013 but I dont know the exact date when applied. As I think in such judicial works we need to be specific. So guide me what should I do here.
Is there any online way to know d date when applied.
Thanx alot
Have you applied it already or going to apply ? Not clear from your reply !
Hello Manish,
Thanks for the detail information, if i want to use rtinamtion website to filed my application for PF transfer status which department i should select? kinldy advice.
Thanks
Tushar
Please mail them on customer care for this . I am not aware about details of the website . Or you can file RTI from vakilsearch.com also
Hello Manish ,
I have filled an RTI for EPFO chennai . How will I get to know that they have received and action will be taken for it. Also how do they send us the details . Because with that reply I will have to follow up with Bangalore EPFO .
You will get the details after 35-40 days of them receiving the letter. Once that time passes, if you do not get the acknowledgement , then please let us know !
Dear Sir,
This is inform you that i had given a transfer request from RO Kandivali (MH) to RO Bommasandra (KN) but i came to know through EPF Grievance Management System that they have transferred my money to RO Bangalore (invalid Ac. No). Then i have contacted with RO Bangalore, they forwarded my case to RO Bommasandra but RO Bommasandra again reply to saying that i should contact with RO Bangalore/RO Kandivali. So I am confused and decided to file an RTI.
I just want to know that which office will be my target office.
First target the RTI to the source (MH) and ask your questions .
Hi Manish,
1. I was working in a private company till Sep 2013 . My EPF
was maintained by the company PF trust.
2. After quitting this job, I am looking out for another new job.
3. How long Will the old company PF trust, keep paying interest ,
until I transfer this amount to new company.
Thanks,
jago user
For normal EPF accounts, its 3 yrs , not very sure of self managed trusts, you might want to check on our forum – http://www.jagoinvestor.com/forum/
Hi Manish,
Its been one month now, I haven’t got reply for my RTI. How to know the status of RTI?
Thanks,
Abhay Nadgir
Hi Manish,
I got reply today, and I see that they have transferred only EPF amount and not Pension amount. is there any other form I need to submit to get my pension amount transferred?
Thanks,
Abhay Nadgir
You need to fill up another form to withdraw the EPS part
Wait for some more time, at times it gets late by some days !
Manish,
I raised 17 complaints on Pune and Bangalore office for my pending EPF Transfer using online grievance link available on EPFO site. However, it did not help. I had lost all hope.
After reading this article, I raised 3 RTI on both these offices and matter got resolved(although it took almost one year).
Thanks a lot for sharing the template to raise RTI and giving exact steps along with it.
Thanks and Regards
Amit
Use RTI and I am sure it will help you
Manish, You are a gem !!
Ohh thanks 🙂 . I am glad you appreciated 🙂 .
Hi Manish,
Thanks a lot for this very informative article which has helped several people having difficulties with their PF transfer/withdrawal.
Regards,
Manjunath Anand
Welcome !
Hi Manish,
Thanks for providing a wonderful article.
I am currently working in Chennai. I had initiated a PF transfer on 04-07-2013 and after waiting for 1 month, I had filed an online grievance on 06-08-2013. From the grievance suggestion page, I can see the officer name and email id. I need some suggestions from you.
1) Whether is it worth to write a mail to his mail id?
2) How long should I need to wait for a response from grievance dept. (I can see “send remainder” option which will become active after 30days. whether I need to try it incase of no reply)
3) How long should I need to wait before filing RTI?
I suggest file a RTI and once its recieved then you should get the reply in another 30-35 days !
sir,
My issue related to EPF is my name spelling has been wrongly entered in my EPF account. I took this matter to my employer, the employer now says that an application has been sent to EPF deptt. for this issue. But my issue is still pending.
It has been more than 1 year. The employer says he cant cant do anything but to write a letter which he has already did. Please guide me in this issue.
thanks
File a RTI letter now on this matter.
After reading this post, I filed RTI application at concerned RPFC to expedite my 3 years long pending PF transfer and they completed the formalities in 9 days and sent me Annexure-K document by speed post. Thanks to jagoinvestor.com for spreading the awareness about RTI.
Great to hear that Jatinder 🙂 . good to know that
I have worked 7 years in one comapany and I am going to jump another company. Withdraw/ Transfer the PF – which is best??
Bcoz, if I completed 1o years, I will be eligible for pension.. will the pension scheme really useful??
Just because you complete 10 yrs does not mean you start getting it . You get it only after you retire.
Better transfer it to new EPF account
Hello,
My PF is transferred from my previous employer to RPFC Bandra office 2 years back and I am still waiting for the amount to be transferred to my current PF account. I want to file RTI. Whom should I address the letter to? Is that Central Public Information Officer (CPIO),
Office of Provident Fund Commissioner,
Employees Provident Fund Organisation
or
to someone in RPFC office?
I think you should file a RTI application now on this
Sir,
Your website did help me to file an RTI in EPF regarding the closure of my EPF account which they have been rejected previously. But the RTI reply that I got from the EPF office is not satisfactory and they have not replied my one question which is “whether it is possible to close my EPF account without approaching the previous employer” (which I do believe will take a lot of time because I have got clear evidence that the EPF clerks and the company accountant are hand in glove) I would like to hear from you regarding this and I am planning to send another RTI to the Appellate Authority within in this week itself. Thank you.
Suresh
That topic is already discussed over here – https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2012/11/withdraw-your-epf-without-employer-signature.html
Does EPFO still issue Annexure-K upon the transfer of EPF / EPS to the new employer (target)?
Does the employer at target side receive Annexure-K copy?
Not sure on that. To discuss it, please open a thread on our forum – http://www.jagoinvestor.com/forum/
sir,
i had requested for a withdrawal since i no longer work for that company now i received a rejection mail from EPFO office stating ‘Claim already submitted’. What should i do? i looked at the query #604 above (dated July 4) my case is same. i will file RTI but i dont have an account with SBI so where has the money been transferred.
thanks.
Abhay
File a RTI and ask this in that .
Thanks to the tips from this awesome blog, I wrote an RTI application and asked why my PF account was not getting transferred for last 2 years. The job was done in just 2 weeks.
Good to hear that Shidhartha !
Hi Manish,
Thanks a lot for all the details mentioned in this blog.
I have followed the procedure and now my complete PF amount along with interest is credited to my SB account.
Actually, my PF amount was missed from records since more than 3 years during transfer from Bangalore to Hyderabad PF accounts.
I had submitted more than 10 online grievences for an year but no use.
After submitting RTI application(with all details attached) as per above template/instructions, within 45days the complete process is completed by hyderabad PF office.
Thanks once again to you and the RTI act also.
Thanks and Best Regards,
Ranjit Kumar V
Good to hear that Ranjit !
Hi,
This is regarding the PF Transfer from my previous employer to Current Employer.
I do see the status as below for a long time with some Clam ID at http://epfoservices.in
Claim ID : GNGGNxxxxxxxxxxxx
Status : Your transfer in details for crediting new account has been received and the same is under process.
Please let me know, what does it mean?
How to proceed further?
Please
Thanks,
Sreedhar
It means its almost going to be paid , But I suggest raising a RTI still !
Hurray..it worked out for me.
Got reply on 34th Day. 🙂
Thanks a lot Manish.
🙂
Good to know that 🙂
sir,
my problem regarding tax refund not received till date (2012-13) & PAn No. ALGPC2131D.
File RTI !
Hello,
I had submitted forms 19 and 10C in April 2013 and yesterday I received a mail from EPFO office stating that the claim has been rejected and the reason given is ‘Claim already submitted’. However, I have never applied for or received any amount of my EPF. Can you please advice as to what should I do?
Regards,
Shikha
It means that its given to the settlement bank which is SBI in most cases. Better check status through RTI and ask where was it paid ?
Thanks Manish. I do not have an account with SBI and I have never requested for PF withdrawal before this. How can then EPFO give the amount to SBI or any other bank. I am not clear on this can you please help.
Also, what should I write in the RTI. Thanks for all your help. I was totally clueless before I stumbled upon your site. Its the most helpful.
-Shikha
SBI is the mediator , they pass on the money to you . Dont worry on that !
Hi Manish,
Many Many Many (and so many) Thanks for such a great article. I came to know about your site 3 months back in one of the casual discussion in my part time MBA classes and while browsing came across this article.
My PF transfer was pending since Sep 2010 and nothing in the last 2 years worked. Tried PF consultants/agents, Logged online grievance and got a response 9 months back that your complaint did not have enough details. I followed your steps, took the format you mentioned and filed RTI on 23 May, it reached EPFO on 27 May and this weekend, I got a response that now its transferred (on 25-Jun) along with attested copy of ledger extract. Though the site is still not reflecting (as it is not updated till 25-Jun), but I am sure now this is done.
I owe you something for this. My best wishes to you for your good health, wealth, prosperity. Many thanks once again and keep on doing great job.
BTW..I bought one of your book (“How to be your financial planner in 10 steps) recently. Will read that soon.
May God bless You and your loved ones..
Thanks
Amit
Thats great thing Amit . Nice to know that your money is on your way in few days ! . Take care of that money well , it has come after lots of your effort 🙂 . Proud of readers like you .
Let me know if you love my book ! 🙂
Manish
Hi Manish,
Thank you so much for this information.
I contacted the ex-employer (on behalf of a relative) for this issue and filed a grievance in the govt site and this was thier response :
“The Establishment TN/4542 is an exempted Establishment and PF account is maintained by the PF Trust of the Establishment. You are therefore, requested to contact the PF Trust for further action. ”
Does n’t this mean my RTI request would also be shot down? I hope you can help me understand this and suggest a course of action, pls.
It will not be covered under RTI , because his PF money is not managed by EPFO , its a private trust !
Dear sir,
Thanking you for your reply. Pls confirm can RTI against the company, and what about threat regarding stop PF (Can he do that at any level)
I Irshad M Qureshi, I was in a company since Sep. 2004 to 3rd July 2012, till date my x employee not settle my account nor send me my reliving letter, and no communication about my pending dues i.e Last month salary / Expanses paper submitted, payment paid to transporter, on behalf of Company / Bonus / Leave encashment / Graduity /PF/Target incentive etc. Total amount upto Rs. 3.50 Lacs. Now how can I claim same amount to the company, no one reply my mails regarding my pending dues, can I case to company, it’s a case of totally harassments, What can I do in this condition, can I apply my PF through company or directly, I required your valuable suggestions, pls help me.
the best you can now do is first check with EPFO on this using RTI and give a last warning to your employer on policy case against this issue .
Dear sir,
Thanking you for your reply. I checked on line my account & found balance in EE/ ER amount, how can I withdraw the amount, and which type of warning give to our x company, pls suggest, (If you have any format, pls forward ) & pls confirm can company stop PF amount at any level. Because he threats me on phone/SMS and no official communication regarding pending dues.
File a RTI now and it will be solved !
Hello Manish,
Thanks for this information. My PF withdrawal was rejected and there were no communication from the PF office about the reason of rejection. The status online was showing as rejected without any specific reason.
I tried lot of mechanism for 5 months and nothing worked. Finally I filed an RTI during 1st week of May 2013. To be frank, i was sceptical. To my surprise i received an response from the PF office. Interestingly they answered point by point on all the question that i had.
Thanks!!
Prabhu
Yea . Thats what the power of RTI is 🙂
i am working in software company since 9 year, In this 9 year our company has created two different P F account. and also one year of my PF amount deposited in other PF account. So Now my PF amount distributed in 3 PF account. so how can i solved this problem to get or withdrawal my total PF amount .
or can you suggest which way i have to go.
Please reply ASAP because i will discontinue this company.
How did they create 3 accounts if you have been continuing the same company for 9 yrs ? First clarify with them ? They are all on your name ? If yes, you might need to transfer the other 2 accounts to your latest one ! . Ask the company to help you on that as they goofed up !
Dear Sir/Madam, This is to inform you that I was working with EDP services working from 06-Aug-2012 but we have not received till any salary slip and don’t show pf in online STATUS for Member, My PF account number is GN/GGN/0001215/00C/0001445, maintained at Gurgaon Haryana
Raise a RTI !
Thanks for sharing this great information & i have doubt in mind that what is the EDLI fixed Amount ?
Regards,
Adarsh
Where did you read about it ?
I had received an SMS on 23rd May 2013 that my PF withdrawal had been rejected and letter is in under dispatch.
I didn’t receive letter so then I filed grievance.
I received the following answer.
What should I do next? It seems Form 5 needs to be filled by employer.
It is informed that your grievance is being treated as non-actionable due to the following reason(s):
It is informed that the claims have been returned on 23.5.2013 for the reason FORM 5 PARTICULARS NOT AVAILABLE WITH THIS OFFICE
Therefore, we are closing your grievance from this office.Please quote the same in your future correspondence.
File a RTi and find out what to do next now
Hi Manish,
Firstly, I am really impressed with the way you have told the aam admi how to use RTI as a tool against EPF Offices. Thanks a lot.
My problem is that I have submitted PF forms twice but both the times they were rejected. Till date, I don’t know the reason of rejection. I have lodged a complaint in PF grievance cell but there is no response. My question is should I send the forms a third time OR file an RTI to know the reason of rejection and then send the forms? Which will be less time consuming since its already more than 1 year and I want to close the issue at the earliest.
Just file the RTI now . You will get a reply in 30 days and mostly if you dont have anything to do , then you should get the money in 1-2 months !
Thanx a ton Manish…. I have received the PF amount in flat 7 days of filing the RTI application. RTI is really an excellent weapon in the aam aadmi’s hand. Thanks for making us aware of it. 🙂
Woo.. great !
Thats great !
Manish,
Mine is a strange case of PF being transferred to someone ele’s account (from Karnataka to Andhra) in 2005. I filed an RTI addressed to the Karnataka EPFO to know the total amount + process of recovery one-and-a-half month ago, but no reply.
I am now contemplating filing the first appeal. Do you have similar guidelines on how to draft & file the 1st and 2nd appeals and the subsequent complaint in case none of these work? Also should I file an RTI appeal and send it to both Karnataka & Andhra EPFOs?
Thanks – Shivani.
hmm .. In that case you first find out a first appeal template from Net , very easy to find and address it to the concerned officer, again you will get it from the EPFO website . Tell them that you file RTI letter on which date and if possible the PO number using which you paid the fees.
Hi,
I raised a grievance on EPFO site to get the status of my PF Transfer Application. I got response for grievance as below:
A sum of Rs.XXXXX/- has been received as transfer-in in Feb/2013. The same will be credited to member pf a/c. and will reflect in the form 23 slips to be issued for the year 2012-2013 .
Can you please let me know what is Form-23? Is it required to be submitted by employee?
Thanks.
Hrishikesh
I am not aware of that, but for sure you should file A RTI to find it out and exact status !
Thanks for your response Manish.
I enquired about the Form-23 in my organization. It is the Annual Account Statement which PF office sends to organizations at end of every financial year. Till now, my organization has received Account Statement only for Financial Year 2009-2010. My organization is telling me that they are not aware when they will receive account statements for subsequent years (including year 2012-13) and they cannot follow-up with EPFO.
This is really frustrating for me. Can I detail all this information in RTI application? Also, I wanted to know, if I change my job what will happen to my PF-Account and to PF transfer? Any Idea?
Thanks.
Hi Manish,
I have worked in one company for 4 years and then i have opted for PF Transfer and joined the 2nd company. I have stayed for 1.3 Years and again shifted the company and opted for PF Transfer. Now i am in the 3rd company and have been there from past 2 Years with bandra Office Mumbai. Now my question is.
Till now my PF has been not transferred to my latest PF Account. Now i am not even able to track if my first company PF amount has been transferred. I tried checking in epfindia site and i am not getting the status/ pf balance. Is it possible for me to withdraw PF from my 1st and 2nd company now?
Yes, but to get exact info you need to file RTI
Filed RTI, got reply. They have received the cheque from my previous employer on 2/12/2008. And they have done the interest calculation from Dec 2008 to 31/3/2012. Also they said that the “exact date of credit” of amount from previous employer to my account is 5/3/2013. If they have credited the amount on 5/3/2013, shouldn’t they also account for the interest from April 2012 to 5/3/2013?
Am I missing something here?
Manish, have you come across simliar cases where they have done a half baked job? Any idea how to get this problem solved?
If you feel its unjustified, then better file one more RTI and ask for the rules and what happens to the interest part now . Tell them you will go to banking ombudsman is required
Hi Manish ,
This site came as a relief to me since i am struggling to get any solution for my much delayed PF transfer .
My pf transfer cheque got returned back as per Delhi EPFO.I filed a grievance. Following was their response :
Dear Sir/Madam, This is with reference to your Grievance registered vide Registration Number DELSO/E/2012/xxxx . It is informed that your grievance is being treated as non-actionable due to the following reason(s): Cheque no. xxx dated 22.08.2012 amounting for Rs. xxxx has been returned to the this office unpaid. Now you are requested to submit an application for re-transfer the same. You are also requested to mention correct payee name and address in the application. Therefore, we are closing your grievance from this office.
When i sent the ASR and FORM 13 again my claim got rejected citing foll reason:
Claim form 13 for transfer to new account member against old member account number has been rejected . Rejection form has been dispatched.
Should i file RTI or should i catch hold of my new company or should i freshly apply for withdrawal.
Regards
Better to restart fresh with a RTI mentioning all the queries you have !
Hi Manish,
I filed RTI applications for the PF transfer request initiated about 2 years back to the source PF office which is Gurgaon PF office in my case as well as the destination PF office which is Delhi in my case. I used the template mentioned in your template.
It’s been 33 days since I filed RTIs and there are no response yet and I know there is provision to reach to First Appealatte authority. Can you help me with the process for that and if there is any template which I could follow?
Any other thing which I need to do?
Regards,
Ankush Goel
Hi Ankush
I suggest wait for some more days .. While the official time line is 30 days . At times the delays happen . I myself waited for one of the RTI replies and it came to me after 55 days . While its not the right things , nothing wrong to wait for few more days from practical point of view.
Thanks Manish. will wait for few more weeks.
Hi,
I had applied for PF transfer from my old organisation to my new organisation in August 2008 both under Bandra jurisdiction. The old organisation submitted the traNsfer request to Bandra EPFO in Nov 2008. The transfer was not effected by 2013 April. I had quit the new organisation in October 2012 and given for withdrawal. Only the contribution from new organisation has been credited. When I checked with my new organisation they have replied that PF office has informed that I have already donne my withdrawal from my previous account. This is absolutely untrue. No credit has occurred in my bank accounts and I have filled no form for withdrawal. Can you suggest a course of action?
You will get right information only with RTI now
Ok. Thanks. Let me try it first. But if RTI answer is not satisfactory is there any way i can take the PF dept to court?
Thanks
Prakash
Hi
I am recently changed my JOB. My previous company is not communicating with me regarding my EPF. Can I file an RTI against my previous company in this case.
Thanks
Pavan Agrawal
No , companies do not come under RTI , Only EPFO does
Thanks Manish,
This means I cannot take any legal action if my previous company is not responding?
Thanks
Pavan
Yes ,you cant .. all you can do is , file a RTI and find out the exact status of your EPF and then if process is still not initiated , then you can withdraw the EPF without your past employer signatures , read this article – https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2012/11/withdraw-your-epf-without-employer-signature.html
thanks manish
Hi,
I applied under RTI to EPFO Bandra, Mumbai for my EPF transfer. But in the response to that I got incomplete information.
1. The information sought was “Please let me know the reason for rejection and date of rejection letter dispatched with dispatched address”
=> The response was “it pertains to Gr. 63” .
Most of the response is pertains to Gr.63 and do not pertains to Gr.23.
From my perspective the information is misleading and is incomplete.
Do you have any information about what is Gr.63 ?
Not very sure of it , but I found a PDF which had a point number 63 which says some thing like
63. Conversion of policy into a paid up one and payment of late fee,
etc.
Where a policy of Life Insurance of a member is financed from his Provident
Fund Account, the Commissioner may,
(a) convert the Insurance Policy into a paid up one when the credit in his
Provident Fund on account of his share becomes inadequate for the payment
of any premium;
http://www.epfindia.gov.in 58(b) pay late fee and interest out of the member’s own contribution in his
Provident Fund Account, if any premium cannot be remitted to the Life
Insurance Corporation in time because of delay in sending to the
Commissioner the policy duly assigned to the Central Board or any other
reasons for which the member or his employer may be responsible.
Did you have any case related to this .
http://www.epfindia.com/EPFScheme.pdf
Dear sir,
One of my friend who was expired 3 month’s back had a pf account in old company. The company was closed and he did not withdrawn. Now is it possible to withdraw pf from his wife ? she had company’s appointment letter, salary slip but no pf account number.
please help if you have any suggestions.
regards,
Sudarshan
Yes, he can still get it . but some work needs to be done .
First he needs to file a RTI to EPFO , telling husband name and company name and also attach the joining letter etc .and ask them what is the EPF account number
Then file a withdraw request through legal heir !
I have filed a EPF grievance & I got a reply from PF office
“Claims in Form-19 and 10C were returned to employer on 18/03/2013 for want of Form 3A & Form 6A. In this regard, the member is requested to contact the employer for early resubmission along with all documents. On receipt of the same, the claims will be processed as per manual of accounting procedure and on merits.”
What is this 3A & 6A forms….is this submitted by Employer along with Form 19 & 10c, How to fill-up these forms 3A & 6A
I have contacted the employer they are saying we didn’t get any returned form.
Kindly help me how to proceed further from here.
Rajan
Please start a thread to discuss your issue on our forum – http://www.jagoinvestor.com/forum/
I have filed a EPF grievance & I got a reply from PF office
“Claims in Form-19 and 10C were returned to employer on 18/03/2013 for want of Form 3A & Form 6A. In this regard, the member is requested to contact the employer for early resubmission along with all documents. On receipt of the same, the claims will be processed as per manual of accounting procedure and on merits.”
What is this 3A & 6A forms….is this submitted by Employer along with Form 19 & 10c.
I have contacted the employer they are saying we didn’t get any returned form.
Kindly help me how to proceed further from here.
Kindly reply to my query……
I have filed a EPF grievance & I got a reply from PF office
“Claims in Form-19 and 10C were returned to employer on 18/03/2013 for want of Form 3A & Form 6A. In this regard, the member is requested to contact the employer for early resubmission along with all documents. On receipt of the same, the claims will be processed as per manual of accounting procedure and on merits.”
What is this 3A & 6A forms….is this submitted by Employer along with Form 19 & 10c.
I have contacted the employer they are saying we didn’t get any returned form.
Kindly help how to proceed forward from here.
Thank you very much sir for the post! This article helped me to submit RTI to solve PF transfer hell. After nearly a year of transfer application, PF money got transferred from old account to new account in matter of 30 days.
Thanks once again
Good to hear that 🙂
Hi Manish,
I have applied for PF withrawal…after 2 months I have checked the status online its showing my application got rejected. How I am going to know the reason why my application got rejected. I have given many calls to EPFO Hyderabad…but nobody answering me properly…even they are not picking up my calls…I am very tense…even when submitting the application my employer checked both the forms…it was correct, then y my application got rejected. Even I didn’t get my rejection letter.How to get a claim as early as possible….kindly suggest.
Kindly reply to my query..
u should now use RTI to ask this, they will reply to it . Note that you need not ask WHY questions , it will not be answered !
Hi Manish,
I have an inoperative PF account in Pune and in spite of my numerous attempts to transfer/withdraw nothing as materialized. I was working in Pune from Jun 2005 to Nov 2007. Now I have learnt that interest is not accumulated on in-operative PF accounts. Can you please let me know if there is any chance of receiving the missed interest if I choose to transfer to my current PF account?
No , you cant get any missed interest, once its inoperative , then you will not get any interest on that. Now I suggest you FILE the RTI application and get clarity on this
Thanks Manish for the reply !!
I was a little confused because of the below article where they said interest will be paid but this is now mentioned any where else.
http://www.livemint.com/Money/bgMlF7lQygHOnjSdYKdzKJ/DYK-Amont-in-inoperative-EPF-accounts-may-also-get-interest.html
You will start getting interest on the amount if you transfer it to active account. But you will not be able to get back the OLD interest which you didnt get because the account was inactived .
Thanks a lot Manish !!
Hi Manish,
I have a transfer case form Gurgaon PF office to North Delhi PF office. The status at the Gurgaon office is that they have rejected the transfer application seeking some more information. Whereas as per Delhi office, they are awaiting inputs from Gurgaon office and have no information about claim rejection.
Any pointers whom should I be putting an RTI for in this case and asking for what?
You have to put a RTI to Gurgaon office and ask them what is the reason for rejection and what is the next step , Then you have to initiate the process again
Dear Sir,
I am doing business with Nilgiri’s Dairy Farm Pvt.Ltd. who is having an online account in your bank.
Recently I received a ledger from them stating that a sum of Rs.2.5 lac is pending for the period from 01-APR-2009 to 9.3.2013
I have made online payment the above mention account from 2009 onwards. Due to recent incident in my office I lost the entire records in total and now I am totally blank to reconcile my account with them.
I need the account statement from ICICI and syndicate banks of Hosur branch.
When I contact the respective branch managers they told that with the permission of the owner of the account they can able to give the statement of the account as per my requirement.
When I spoke to the owner of the account they refuse to give any such letter to get the statement from the bank.
Recently to close the year end issues they forcefully entered in to an MOU to clear their dues.
Even now I am not denying their dues if any. What I request them is just to give a letter to get the statement from the bank after reconcile there account. There is no periodical ledger reconciliation right from the beginning between both of us.
Once get the statement from the Bank I will filter the missing entries and get the xerox copy of the chalan from the bank and if that is relevant to my payment I will ask them for a credit entry in my account.
Kindly help me how get the bank statement through RTI.
Srinivasan G
ICICI does not come under RTI .. you will have to get it only from the branch
Hi Manish,
You mentioned it somewhere that there is no interest paid after three years of last PF contribution or when you discontinue an existing PF account. Not sure if I misunderstood your statement. In any case, are you aware of tax liability if I withdraw my PF anytime before or after 5 years after resigning from my job?
Good work!
-Anurag
Yes , if you withdraw the money from a EPF account which is not 5 yrs old, then the amount you get becomes your income for that year and you pay tax on that
Thanks Manish!
Please spare few more minutes for me
1) When you say 5 years old, is it starting from EPF account opening date or 5 years after the resignation? I guess first option though but just to clarify better.
2) Who will deduct the tax in case of withdrawal before 5years? I need to declare or EPF department will deduct the tax from the final payment itself?
3) Hopefully last question for you, in case of PF transfer; I think every new organization will open a new EPF account where I can transfer my old PF fund. Isn’t it a good idea to not to transfer PF fund and keep old accounts running so I can withdraw old PF fund taxfree after 5 years? Of course I will have to sacrifice the interest of 2 years but I should be able to save more tax?
Thx
1. Starting from opening date
2. You have to pay it
3. Yes you can do that . But after 3 yrs of inactivity , your account stops getting any interest and when you are in JOB , its not legal to withdraw the EPF , you should only transfer it
Hi Manish,
I have applied for PF transfer from Huawei[Bangalore] to Alcatel-Lucent[Chennai]. But Alcatel people told that my PF was not transferred. When I checked my Huawei PF account balance online, it shows :
STATUS for Member ID: PY/KRP/0024909/000/0003293
Your account has been settled. For detail’s please contact respective EPF Office.
Could you please guide me whether i need to file RTI for Huawei PF office.
Huawei PF account is maintained by Govt. PF office[KR Puram, Bangalore] , no private trust. But Alcatel PF was maintained by private trust.
Thanks,
Srinivas
Settled at times means that the payment has been made to SBI who is responsible to transfer it to you ..
Check these things with RTI now ..
Hi Manish,
Thanks for the reply.
Could you please help me what things i need check with whom(SBI).
Could you please provide more details on how to proceed on this.
Thanks,
Srinivas
Use the RTI template given in the article and file it to EPF department asking what is the exact status of your EPF settlement , who is resposible to make payment and what is the meaning of that status which you are getting ?
Hi Manish,
Very noble work ! There are many capable people around us but not everybody knows how to give it back to the society. You have done a wonderful job here!
Keep it up!
-Anurag
Thanks Anurag !
i was working in a private company in orissa.(2008)
when i decided to switch(2010), the company didnot give me f &F settlement. i have heard that to withdraw epf permission from employer is necessary.is it true?
Please tell me how can i get my money back either by withdrawing or by transfering to my new epf.
Also tell me which forms to be filled for the same.
Read this – https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2012/11/withdraw-your-epf-without-employer-signature.html
i was working for a company and the company has the PF account in Delhi and now i need to submit my pf withdraw form.
should i need to submit in Delhi or can i submit in Bangalore Office.
if Delhi then can i send it through registered post.
You have to submit at the place which is the company jurisdiction .
Hi,
I need to file an RTI to EPFO Bangalore, Krpuram, Whitefield.
Can you please tell me postal order should be favoured to whom?
Is it “Accounts Officer of EPFO” Bangalore
or “Accounts Officer of EPFO” Bangalore, Krpuram, Whitefield
Regards,
Kaushik
Only Bangalore will do !
Thanks Manis,
Just one more query.
I have seen in some web site that Application fee for RTI varies from state to state. So what will be the fees for RTI application to Bangalore. BTW I am a resident of West Bengal.
Thanks,
Kaushik
Mostly its Rs 10 only .. but yes, in some cases it can vary . you can get the fees part from the website of the department where you are filing it
Hi Manish, I have moved to my current employer B A Continuum in July 2011 and in March 2012 I applied for a PF transfer from my previous employer HSBC. My current employer submitted the cheque received from my previous employer HSBC India to RPO Hyderabad (where my company is headquartered) on 12/04/2012 and they have proof of the same. However, in reply to my grievance, the EPFiGMs office had stated that no transfer in amount has been received. Upon enquiring at HSBC PF office, I have found that the amount has been encashed on 7th May 2012 itself. I have proof of Annexure K, confirmation from HSBC which had a private PF trust that amount has been encashed, proof from B A Continuum that they submitted my cheque. It has been 9 months since the cheque has been encashed however no amount has been credited to my account. I am extremely worried. Can my funds be swindled? I thought that these cheques are a/c payee cheques? Are they? What should I do as the party at fault here is clearly RPO hyderabad and after repeated grievances, they still dont give adequate response.
use RTI now .. they will budge !
Hi Manish,
I had quit from my first company on 2011 and joined in another company. In the 2nd company, i opted for the transfer of PF and submitted form 13 for the transfer. But still, it is not trfd from first. When i checked EPFO website, it is shown as -Under Process for a long time, but no appreciable improvement. Now i am in 3rd Company and have another PF account. what should i do now. i wanted to trfr past 2 PF balances to my current(3rd) company…
RTI is the only option now which will help you
Thanks for your suggestion. They did act upon RTI filing
Great !
They informed that it is credited to the 2nd co’s PF A/c..But still not reflecting in their Website….it is about a month now after they replied to RTI!!!!
You got this info through RTI ?
Yes…. I got this info thru RTI…
Hi Manish,
Thanks for the useful info.On seeing this post, i knew how to file an rti application
Coming to my issue.My first company was satyam,Hyd and when i shifted to my second company Microland ltd.Bangalore,I applied for PF transfer and then i didn’t check whether the transfer has happened or not.Now ehen i got shifted to my new company, i applied for my PF withdrawal of microland.Microland pf trust team informed me that they didn’t receive any cheque on behalf of of transfer from satyam to my account at all.
When i checked with the hyd pf team,they told me that they dispatched the cheque and they gave the cheque details to me. when i enquired in the accounts section of pf ofc hyd,the cheque was neither returned back or encashed by the microland pf team.
Then they asked me to submit the reauthorisation letter from Microland of team that they have not received the cheque.I submitted it, but again hyd pf team are telling that they issued the cheque and ask them to return the cheque sent by them.
My question here is how can the microland pf team submit thecheque which they haven’t received??
So on seeing ur post..i filed 2 rti applications..1 for hyd epfo and other for karnataka epfo 2 weeks back..
Can you please tell me how can i check the status of theses rti’s filed as i don’t have any rti number.Ionly have the speed post acknowledgement number with me.
Please guide me so that what all can i do in this regard.
Thanks bro in Advance !!!
You should get the replies within 40-50 days . Just keep those RTI acnowledgement numbers , which you can quote again incase you do not get any replies !
I had quit my previous employer in the year 2011 jan. My previous employer mainted the pf account in its own pf trust (based in bangalore). I had raised a request to transfer the amount from my previous employer’s trust to my current employer’s pf account (based in chennai epfo). During Aug 2011, my previous employer had sent the cheque to my current employer and later by Sept 2011 my current employer had submitted the cheque to Chennai EPFO. After raising couple of grievences with EPFO, I finally got below response.
Response from epfindia:
The claim in Form 13 was sent to the RPFC, Bomasandra, Bangalore on 19.10.2011 , where the previous account number is maintained. The member is requested to furnish the NEFT DETAILS/cheque number, date, amount & date of realization of the cheque and signed copy of Annexure K for further redressal of grievance. If the said details are not available, he may take up the issue with the RPFC, where the previous account number is maintained.
My previous employer maintained its own trust and i am not sure why Form 13 was sent to RPFC, Bomasandra, Bangalore. If I have to raise a RTI, please let me know to whom it should be sent.
Thanks
Did you check with your current employer on this ?
Hi Manish,
Please help me in this.
Issue : PF withdrawal Rejection stating-Salary credited for the month of jan from XYZ company- Resumbit form with form 13
Hi this is Nagesh from Rajajinagar. I was working with OPI pvt ltd from oct 2009 to May 2012(30 months). Currently I am working with Accenture Pvt Ltd since last 6 months. While joining Accenture in Aug-2012 I have opted for PF withdrawal from OPI and submitted forms to PF office in the month of November-2012. According to the policy I attached all the documents along with the cancelled cheque with 2 months bank statement.
After 2 months when I found that PF withdrawal form got rejected stating the above reason. While checking the documents(bank statement) they found that I am working with new company and salary is being credited from past 3 months and rejected my PF form asking me to apply for PF Tracnsfer- 13. I personally visited to KR Puram office and asked for my PF money but they strictly said we cant. The only option is transfer or just leave it.
1)lease can anybody help me, Is there any law that says : we cannot withdraw our previous company pf amount if we are working currently with some other company.
2)Can I still able to withdraw my previous company PF amount or Transfer is the only option?
1. Yes , you need to be unemployed to withdraw your EPF .
2. Transfer is the only option
There is a possibility to withdraw the earlier PF. You can withdraw provided you are buying flat or pre-closure of your home loan (not sure about other loan types) or you want to renovate the house. However, you need to furnish some supporting documents basis on the reasons you put…
Yes its possible 🙂
Hi Manish,
I have filed for an RTI on Jan 17th, 2013 for transfer of EPF in hyderabad. How can i track the RTI filed?
Thanks,
Sunny
If i’ve to send the RTI application to EPFO-Hyderabad, then IPO should be in favour of “Accounts Officer,EPFO” or “Accounts Officer,EPFO,Hyderabad”?
Accounts Officer,EPFO,Hyderabad
Thanks a lot for the info,Manish.
Hi,
I would like to know that IPO should be in favour of “Accounts Officer,EPFO” or “Accounts Officer,EPFO,Hyderabad”, if I’ve to sent the RTI application to EPFO,Hyderabad office.
Thank you Dear Manish,
You are helping thousands of people like me……
Welcome
Hi,
Sincere Thanks to you…. You are really helping thousands of people who are facing issues with their PF refund / PF withdrawal… Thank you…
Welcome 🙂
Hi Manish,
I had opted for a PF transfer from epfo office of Pune to a private trust in Bangalore that belongs to my current organisation. It’s been more than a year and the transfer is yet not done. The claim status says that “Claim form 13 for Account Transfer has been settled. Annexure K and Payment sent through NEFT”. But my organisations claims that they have not yet received the Annexure K and hence the ammount is not settled. They are asking me to follow-up with the EPFO, Pune to get a copy of Annexure K and then the setllement can continue. But I have been getting no resposne from EPFO Pune, tried reaching them on phone, registered a grevieance, sent a reminder to the the same, visited their office but was not allowed to meet the officer. Please suggest what should be done in this case ?
Regards,
Vibhavari
The simple answer is file a RTI with your query asking for explainations !
Vibhavari,
My case is similar.I did it different way.There is another way too. Go to current group officer who is handling your account. Give him letter that you require the K annexure. He would draft a letter and get it signed from PF commissioner. Give the letter to previous PF office. This previous PF office Group accounts officer would give you annexure K.
Give it to the current PF office.
Hi sir i am DILIP SINGH BISTH. 4 year has been passed still i did not get my PF . i worked in WELSPUN GUJARAT STAHL ROHEN for May 2005 to december 2008. till 2007 company sent the pf in SURAT after that RAJKOT. I applied for pf through this company, i only get my 27 thousand. may be this amount from RAJKOT. i dont know ,my pf transfered or not from SURAT to RAJKOT. so now how i will get my full amount.
file a RTI application and ask your questions to EPFO !
Hi Manish,
I joined my new employer in Oct 2010. My employer has its own PF trust. Hence in the letter sent by my new employer, it was clearly mentioned that the EPF/PF amount (from RPO Chandigarh) be tranferred to my employer’s given trust account & FPF be transferred to RPO, Delhi.
After followup from my side, I was told in Oct-2011 that the entire accumulation has been sent to RPO, Delhi. Since then, I am following up with RPO, Chandigarh. But noone is taking intrest. I filed greivance in EPF grievance redressal recently after reading your article.
Pls tell me, if there is any timeframe by when EPF grievance redressal reverts with the needful or do I take up the RTI route for faster action ?
RTI is the best thing you can do now
Hi Manish,
I have been working in a company for past 7 years and in June 2012 they have terminated my services. After several follow up with HR & Legal dept for my PF withdrawl they just signed Form-10C and didnt attest (signed) Form -13 & return my documents by saying apply directly to the PF office by getting attested my Bank Manager. After going through lot of forums on internet I understand that I can get my signature attested from a PSU Bank Manager in such scenario and submit the forms10c & 13 along with copy of passoport, PAN Card,SB Passbook, Cancelled cheque along with an application to the PF commissioner saying that company is not cooperating and not ready to attest my with PF withdrawl forms.I have followed the same get my signature attested by PSU Bank Manager and submit to EPFO. After a month when I check the online status it was Rejected.
The reason was “Employeer attestation(signature) required” after I recieved my documents. Now my question is to you.
1)How to submit the PF withdrawl forms if your previous company is not attesting your Forms ?
2) I cannot submit Form3A along with the withdrawl forms documents.
3) Is there any other documents need to be submit in such scenario.
I’m located in Delhi and our EPF office is Mumbai so I cannot visit EPF office often for follow ups. Please advice in such scenario how I can withdraw my PF when my previous company is not ready to attest/sign the forms and cannot provide Form3A. Is there any other way out please advice as I’m really need of this money.
Thanks & keep up the good work…
Best Regards
Gaurav
Yes you can do that .. check this https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2012/11/withdraw-your-epf-without-employer-signature.html
dear sir ji,
mein haryana tourism. govt job se 1 may 2012 ko retire hua hu. mujhe abhi tak p.f
ka money nahi mila . sir mujhe kya karna chahiye
File a RTI now
Sir,
I left my first company in aug 2010 and applied for EPF transfer. I left my second company and again applied for EPF transfer. When I go to EPF to check mk previous balance , it says “your account is invalid.” for both of my previous accounts. I don’t know the balance in my previous EPF accounts also. How should I go about it.
Thanks in advance.
File a RTI now ..
Sir,
I left my first company in july 2010 and applied for EPF transfer. I left my second company after 6 months and joined the previous one and again applied for EPF transfer. When I go to EPF site to check the balance it says “your account is invalid”.
I don’t know the balance in my previous two accounts. How should I go about it ?
Thanks in advance.
File a RTI now !
Sir,
I left my first company in 2010 and applied for PF transfer. I stayed in new company for 6 months and joined back my older company again. Here also I applied for PF transfer.
When I go to EPFO site and put my PF account number , it shows that “your account is invlid”. Currently I don’t know the balance in my previous PF accounts.Can you please help me on this.
Now better you take the route of RTI !
Since I’ve left my second company also , can I mention my current EPF number and tell them to transfer(for both cases) to this new account?
Thanks in advance.
Yes , you can do that now
Hi Manish,
I have applied the transfer of my previous PF through my current employer just 6 months before. I have checked the status of my previous PF account through the online e-passbook. In the pdf the contents as follows, “Passbook cannot be generated Reason: Settled Member.” What this means, is that transferred to the my new PF account ? To verify that, i have checked my current PF account number with online, but i am getting error message while getting e-passbook “You have entered invalid Member ID”. What can i do now ? Do i need to file 2 RTI for the both PF accounts? Your help is appreciated.
I’m facing the same problem as Srinivasan, and would be most interested in knowing what next steps could be. I moved employers, and my previous account statement says “Passbook cannot be generated. Reason: Settled Member.” Does this mean that the balance has been successfully transferred to my new employer? There’s no way to find out since I cannot view the statement for my current account. I get an error message “You have entered invalid Member ID”. Do I need to file 2 RTI for the both PF accounts? Or should I just wait and see?
Yes better file 2 RTI for seperate accounts . that should give you good enough information in next 30-40 days !
Thanks Manish.
Hi ,
I was working under Mafoi consultancy payrolls in Jamshedpur from 2004 Sep to 2005 sep. Once relieved from services, I had applied for pf withdrwal , however same was not catered to. Had filled up pf withdrawl form 4-5 times , however due to apathy shown by the local spoc and REGIONAL OFFICE IN kOLKATA, no movement happened. Had lost the hope. However now I am trying to withdraw pf and checked the status of my pf , which to my surprise is reflecting as inactive account. I am not able to locate the correct correspondence address of my employer to check way forward regarding withdrawl of my pf bi=ut am not able to get the details. pls guide me what should I do to withdraw the pf from the account which is inactive. My pf account belongs to Tamil Nadu and am currently posted at Bangalore
Very Good Article
Now I am aware about every formality of EPF.
If I need any help will get your suggestion for sure. thank you Manish for the information.
Regards,
Jimmy
Welcome !
Hi,
To know the PF transfer status –
a. If I have to fill the RTI online what is the Department/Ministry Details I need to select?
b. If I have to send by post – what is the fee for RTI application for Bandra RPFC office, Mumbai – Maharashta
a. Ministry of Labour
b. Rs 10
have an EPF account (MH/37528/017518) with my previous employer Oracle Financial Services Software Limited (formerly called i-flex Solutions Limited) company based in Mumbai. I applied for withdrawal of my EPF account on (07/07/2009) The application has been settled for the amount Rs 21032/-and Rs.5648/-and has been remitted vide cheque nos. 215071 dated 26.02.2010 and 491719 dated 26.02.2010 respectively. Bank details: A/C no. 00821610026608, HDFC BANK, NUGAMBAKKAM Branch.
But the given savings bank account was closed before the PF settlement was done and the amount was not credited to SB account so I have reapplied once again and submitted application on (12/10/2011) by giving new SB account number but the application is rejected stating that the amount was already settled.
Did you use the RTI for knowing the status ?
Hi Manish,
Thanks for the quick reply,
After seeing your articles only i have applied for RTI on 28/12/2012. Thanks for givin valuble information.
Please clear my dought that if the account given in the application was closed before the PF amount was setteles then that PF amount will be with the PF office only or with the BANK
Actually PF office sends the money to SBI and they send it to your account, so you need to ask clearly, what does “CLOSED” or “SETTLED” mean !
Hi Manish,
Thanks for quick reply,
After going through yur articles i have sent RTI application on 28/12/2012.
I have one more dought please clarify if I am wrong, If the SB account given in the PF form is closed before the PF amount is setteled then the amount will not be credited to the SB account and the PF amount will be with PF organisation only ?
Hi Manish,
I have applied for RTI on 28/12/2012 with postal order in registeres post with acknowledgement letter but still have not received received my acknowledgement letter back to me to know the status wehether my application was received by EPF office or not
Its just been 3 weeks now .. wait for another 20-30 days !
Hi Manish,
I got reply for my RTI application they asked mr to send application for reissue of the cheques where the PF amount was already settled, but not mentioned any name of the application form (like 10c,19c,..).
If you have any information regarding the application of Reissue of the cheques please let me know.
Check on our forum – http://www.jagoinvestor.com/forum/
I changed my job, location remain the same (Bangalore). I’ve given a EPF transfer request, this was acknowledged by the EPF office (I’ve a copy of it). But I still don’t know the transfer happened or not? How do I track it? RTI is the way? or any other method?
From the EPF website I am not able retrieve the balance, getting the same error message as others:
““STATUS for Member ID: BG/BNG/002*****/000/0000****
Invalid Member_id / Data not updated against this BG/BNG/002****/000/0000***
RTI is the only way now .
Hi Manish, Thanks for this wonderful information.
Not sure if I can use this RTI thing in my case as my case is for PF transfer from Pune to Gurgaon. I have used EPF grievance service to know status of my application. Concerned officer from Gurgaon responded that application has been approved and forwarded to concern office long back(Pune in my case).
When I raised EPF grievance for Pune account, they are saying that they haven’t received any application.
Looks like my application has been lost somewhere.
Will RTI be helping me to know where my application has gone.
yes , you can use RTi for this !
My case is similar to this. After delaying for years and raising online grievance i was told that documents were not submitted though i have mail confirmation from my past organization that all docs were submitted and that PF dept does not accept application without all documents. I later submitted all documents again personally after which only 1 part of PF was disbursed. I later raised another online grievance for 2nd part and asking how to get the remaining part, to which again same reason was given(doc not submitted), nothing was mentioned about how to get the 2nd part.
At this point, i cannot get the status of my PF account online. Later I emailed the PF commissioner at zonal and central level asking if they have any process where all documents are acknowledged by PF dept so that such denials cannot be made time and again. I got no reply to my email either.
Please advice what how to phrase a precise RTI application to get my pending PF amount without having to go thru the whole cycle third time again.
Please suggest me on this and it’s a great help full to me.
I resigned my previous organization on Jan 10’2011 and my previous organization submitted the PF transfer Form to RPFC Office on September 05, 2011.
But till now PF Transfer not completed.
Regarding this I raised an online Grievance and got a reply like
“It is informed that after processing your grievance, the following action(s) has been taken:
Cheque has been returned. Please apply Reauthorization Form.
Therefore, we are closing your grievance from this office. Please quote the same in your future correspondence.”
Now my question is who will submit/apply Reauthorization Form is my Previous Organization or Current Organization? What is meant by Reauthorization Form?
If I apply the Reauthorization Form will I get the interest on amount till date or not?
Please guide me now can I apply Reauthorization Form or submit a RTI ?
Thanks in advance.
Its a form you need to submit now , see this http://www.citehr.com/276300-pf-reauthorization-form.html
It worked for me. I got my EPF tansfer information through RTI filing 🙂
Good to hear that SIBIN
Hi Manish,
I am Vasu from chennai.
Its Really good article and very informative.
and i need one help
I have transfered my PF from my previous company to current one by giving the pf transfer form(i forget abt the form number) to the current company HR before 4.5 months.Now my question is
1. How i do know whether PF has transfered,since the current pf a/c number is different from previous one.
2.Is there any link to know the PF TRANSFER Status
Thanks
Vasu
You need to get all this info using RTI now !
Hi Manish,
Thanks for this wonderful article. I am one among who got benefited from this article. I had issues in transferring my PF accumulations from my first company to my current(third company) for the past 5 years.
I have filled an RTI petition with the concerned EPFO and got my PF successfully transferred in about 5 week time.
Thanks once again.
Cheers
Deena
Great to hear that Deena ! .. There are many who got it done !
Hi Manish,
I am a Bangalore based citizen.
I left my previous company in June 2011 and applied for transfer of my PF to my current company.My PF was maintained by EPFO K.R Puram Bangalore.
Till now the money has not yet been transferred.
I then wrote a mail to the Peenya office and (Surprisingly) then sent mail to Kr Puram Office to address the issue.
The Kr puram office(surprisingly) sent a mail that they had sent the cheque and it was returned back (My current company says they didn’t receive any cheque).
I was asked to re apply for the the PF transfer. It has been more than 3 months since I reapplied but till now there is no transfer of my hard earned money.
Should I file for an RTI. Kindly help me on this.
Yes, now its time to file the RTI and ask questions for which you need to answer !
My PF transfer got rejected. When I filed a grievance option on their site.They informed that Form 3a/6a has not been submitted so they rejected it so what should I do hear after?
Thats mostly looks like something which has to be submitted from Employer !
My PF transfer that was pending for 5 months got resolved in 3 weeks, thanks to this forum.RTI really works !!
Good to hear that Viji !
Dear Manish,
Hi this is Ritesh Mishra,
3 months back, I joined my first On role job in a company, where all the contributions are properly being done as per the statuaries under PF.
But the thing is, unfortunately they entered wrong spelling of my last name in PF account and contributed shares of both the parties of last 3 mounts with reference to that incorrect name.
I need your guidance, if there is is any process for name correction in PF Account
or any other way ought ?
You are unlucky I would say .. This is your company mistake, But I am sure they will say they are helpless. You should now check with EPFo department on this and get it fixed asap , else you will face a lot of issues in future. Better file a RTI against EPFO asking what is the way out of this .
Hi Manish,
You are doing a great work!
I had applied for withdrawal of my EPF, EPF office had rejected it. Later again I applied for the the withdrawal after correcting the earlier mistake (of not having the employers signature in one of the places in the form).
Though I (My previous employer’s HR) submitted the corrected application in October begining this year, they had taken for processing only in November 08th . From then on, the website is showing the status “under process”. My previous HR is saying that the concerned PF official has gone on long leave and new official has to be allotted to look in to this. No certainty when the new official will be allotted. And more than 400 application is already pending with the PF office for the same reason, as said by my previous HR. And the information he (HR) gave me is that in the near future it is unlikely that a new PF official would be allotted and the work would be done; this information is based on his interaction (informal) with other officials in the PF office.
I lodged an online grievane also about 10 days back.
Now (may be, within 15-20 days), I consider the option of filing an RTI. First do you recommend filing RTI at this juncture?. If so, can you please advise me what kind of questions can be put to them in the RTI so that they might expedite the process and settle the claim.
Thanks,
Regards,
S.Subash.
Generally you should wait for some months before filing a RTI , but I would say whats the harm in that ? Just file a RTI , it takes Rs 10 and some effort and lot of courage to get out of your lethargy 🙂 . If something happens – then good , else anywyas you dont lose anything !
Thanks. My EPF withdrawal is done. Processing has taken 40 days. They have closed my online grievance as well.
Great ! .. did you use RTI ?
I want to file RTI for PF transfer , i just wanted to ask question before processing for RTI. In my case source & destination for transfer is only one state & one city involved. For this i need to do two RTI
You need to see the jurisdiction of your office , I think for you it will be same place !
Hi Manish,
Good work. Hats off to you. You are doing really making life of lot of people better..
I also had one querry, see below :
I had applied for EPS (pension fund) withdrawal last year in October.
I checked the status and it says
CLAIM FORM 10C FOR WITHDRAWAL BENEFIT/SCHEME CERTIFICATE FOR MEMBER HAS BEEN RECEIVED ON 04.04.2012 IS UNDER PROCESS.
The same status is being displayed since more than last 6 months, but I dont know how long will it take to get the amount credited to my account. I even registered a grievance and the status is pending since 2 months. Can you suggest any path forward ?
Just file a RTI , it should be processed in 1 month !
Thanks a lot Manish. As suggested by you, I filed RTI for the same, and got a reply from PF office that the 10C claim and form 13 has been rejected.
Is it due to the fact that my previous company internally transferred me to other parent company, with change in my PF account in July 11, but I resigned in August 11, and then I applied for both form 13 and form 10C for PF/EPS transfer as well as withdrawal respectively.(please note I was working in the same company from 2008 upto July 11, before this internal transfer)
Is it due to the fact that 6 month criteria was not met for EPS withdrawal?
In any case I need to at least get my EPS for earlier 3 years , what do you suggest?
Kindly advise what to do in this case, can I directly submit form 10C to the concerned PF office, by post, or I have to submit it through my previous employer only.
Thanks again.
Regards,
Abhishek
If your EPF is yet active, then its means that you are still employed with same company (for EPF purpose atleast). I suggest you file another RTI and get clarity directly from EPFO on what is the way out for you now !
Thanks a lot Manish for your reply.
My EPF is not active now. I have withdrawn my PF from both the accounts after resigning , but since these were company trust PF account, I got the PF money within 2 months .
Now I am facing problem with this EPS withdrawal. Can I file an RTI clearly asking the PF office to suggest the path forward? Will they reply to such RTI? Please advice on this.
Thanks again
Yes.. Just file a RTI and post your questions to them . RTI should be able to move them out of their comfort zone and do some work . Do not ask “why” kind of questions ..
Thanks again Manish.
I will do the same and will keep you updated and offcourse seek your advice if I require further help !
Abhishek
Hi Manish,
Following is the response i got against the EPF Grievance i had raised a month ago regarding my PF transfer.
Dear Sir/Madam,
This is with reference to your Grievance registered vide Registration Number SROWF/E/2012/04749.
It is informed that after processing your grievance,the following action(s) has been taken:
Cheque has been returned.Please apply Reauthorization Form.
Therefore, we are closing your grievance from this office.Please quote the same in your future correspondence.
I did not understand how the Cheque related to a PF transfer.
Please let me know what i have to do to proceed further.
Thanks in advance.
Vemana
You should see these links which are listed here to undetstand more about Reauthorization form
https://www.google.co.in/search?q=Reauthorization+Form.&oq=Reauthorization+Form.&aqs=chrome.0.57j62.364&sugexp=chrome,mod=1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&safe=off&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=Reauthorization+Form+EPF&oq=Reauthorization+Form+EPF&gs_l=serp.3..0i30j0i8i30.10764.12309.0.12410.5.5.0.0.0.0.357.951.2-1j2.3.0.les%3B..0.0…1c.1.RJ_8ZCg2TLA&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=3869f8a97ac452c5&bpcl=39650382&biw=1517&bih=725
Thanks Manish…..!!!!
Thanks Manish your pasted wonderful information about PF i have one issue earlier i am working 5 years XXX company after 5years that company merged yyy company asper HR PF will transfer to yyy company but i worked one month yyy company next left the job on jan 2012 but PF till now not transfer now i got a form 13 from yyy company HR . How many days taken for transfer and pls advice i have to wait or what to do……
THis all info you can get only by RTI !
Hi Friends ,
I need a favor in finding the status of below 2 points
#1.Need to find the transfer status of my previous employer PF , both are from Gurgoun.
when i raised the grievance 2 months back after one month i got the below response.
where i had made an transfer request long back (2 years back ) , and still couldn’t able to find the transfer status..
even the by going with know your epf balance option too , i can see only wrong amount
–***
It is informed that after processing your grievance,the following action(s) has been taken:
Your claim form 13 has been referred to concerned RPFC.
Therefore, we are closing your grievance from this office.Please quote the same in your future correspondence.
–***
#2. How to close the PF account and withdraw the amount from an Nonoperative PF account?
Thanks In advance
Venkat
You mean you filed your RTI ?
Hi Manish,
I had filed the grievance online , and the above was the response.
do i need to wait , or do i need to file a RTI to know the status of the PF transfer from one to other ?
Thanks in Advance for your help
Venkat
Where is the response ?
Hi Manish,
This is the below response from grievance online
****
It is informed that after processing your grievance,the following action(s) has been taken:
Your claim form 13 has been referred to concerned RPFC.
Therefore, we are closing your grievance from this office.Please quote the same in your future correspondence.
****
Thanks
Venkat
Thats means that you filed it with wrong office, you should now file a RTI with the TARGET office !
Hi Venkat,
Recently I had raised a grievance on a PF transfer request (which i applied almost 3 years back). I had raised the grievance on the target EPFO and the “Source” is a private PF trust.
I received the same reply “Your claim form 13 has been referred to concerned RPFC.” and the grievance is closed.
Please let me know what actions you have taken to resolve the issue.
Thanks in advance.
Best Regards,
Anish
Why are you not filing RTI ?
Thanks Manish. I am going to file an RTI.
And several thanks for this excellent article.
Welcome !
Good information here, Manish, and thanks.
My own claim, submitted on the 23rd of October’12, was “rejected” on the 12th of November’12 as per the online claim information service. This is from EPFO/Delhi North, which has been reported as being the worst zonal performer in the country as per this article:-
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/epfo-settles-only-58–claims-in-a-month/803799/0
So, to help your other readers, I would like to suggest that an RTI Application be filed a few days after submitting the forms itself, asking for relevant progress of the claim or application. In addition, mark soft copies of the RTI to the EPFO HQ office and Vigilance departments too.
I have already started getting phone calls from the EPFO offices, asking me to please stop filing RTIs and complaints, but have told them that it is much more than simply my own personal case, it is about systematic improvements.
Best/Veeresh Malik
Good to hear that Veeresh ! 🙂
Dear Manish,
Pl let us know can we raise any query related to factory act, labour act, or other act for getting correct reply.
We are not the best people for that , you might want to open a thread on our forum for that http://www.jagoinvestor.com/forum/
Hello,
Its been 3 weeks since I have sent the RTI application (for PF transfer) to the EPFO Office at K.R.Puram, Bangalore. I have followed the template of the application as mentioned above.
I have not heard fromt them yet. Not even an acknowledgement of receipt.
How do I track the status of the RTI.
Is there a way to follow the status of the RTI application or should I wait for them to respond? Will the government agency ever respond? I dont have faith.
Thanks,
Ajay.
No , you should wait for 30-50 days to get reply . I have got a reply in 50 days !
Dear Manish,
The information that you have provided regarding the transfer and that for withdrawal are very informative, clear and can be used by anyone who has not got his / her withdrawal or transfer done after the specific time frame.
I thank you on behalf of all the valued readers of your blog for such a nice informative article.
I wish you continue giving such informative articles in your blog regularly with your other articles.
Thank you once again.
Regards,
Vivek Kumar
Thanks for appreciation Vivek !
Hi,
I was an employee of Oracle Financial Services and have applied for PF withdrawal on 30th Jun 2011. Post that received following SMSes:
1. Received an SMS on 10th Nov 2011 from PF office (BZ-EPFO was sender) stating, “Form 10C (Withdrawal Benefit/Scheme certificate) for acct KDMAL00375280000012444 RECD ON 13.10.2011 and Claim ID KDMAL111000027327 is under process”,
2. Received an SMS on 24th Jan 2012 from PF office (BZ-EPFO was sender) stating, “Form 10C (Withdrawal Benefit) Claim ID: KDMAL111000027327 Acct No.KDMAL 00375280000012444 approved for payment through cheque. Payment under process”. and
3. Received an SMS on 01st Mar 2012 from PF office (BZ-EPFO was sender) stating,”Form 13 (Transfer) Claim ID: KDMAL111100001592 rejected. Rejection letter is under dispatch”.
After getting the SMSes I awaited the credit of amount to my savings account with Axis Bank, Jubilee hills branch. Since the same was not happening till 19th April 2012 raised a grievance through online portal vide reference no. SROKN/E/2012/02754 dated 24th April 2012. The concerned officer replied stating: “The application in respect of form 19 and 10C has been settled for the amount Rs 398199/-and Rs.25580/-and has been remitted vide cheque nos. 495761 dated 31.01.2012 and 292592 dated 31.01.2012 respectively. Bank details: A/C no. 0301010100073413, AXIS BANK,JUBILES HILLS HYDERABAD”
On enquiring with my bank they have informed the said cheques were not received by them (copy of letter attached). Post this on 19th May 2012 again I registered a complaint vide ref no. SROKN/E/2012/03362 but till date no response is received.
After that invoked RTI on 30th Jun 2012 for which got a reply the same was sent through NEFT and got returned. In both the cases the account number mentioned was wrong.
So, on 13th Sep 2012 sent a PF re-issue form through my ex-employer and on 01st Nov 2012 got a SMS stating the form was rejected and rejection letter is under process. Till date have not got any letter or reason of rejection.
I am in bad need of money and request you to advice the better way to get the money at the earliest. Will a lawsuit help and if so can I initiate it in Bangalore because I reside in Bangalore and my PF account is in Mumbai.
You need to still file another RTI asking them exact questions which you want to ask . Also file a consumer court case. That should help
Thanks Manish. Can you share the link for Consumer Court Case. I searched in google but could not zero the correct link. Thanks in advance.
You need to go to consumer court , and file the complain there. We dont have any link as such !
Thanks Manish.
thanks for your Blog this is very helpful for me
hello sir,
I applied for PF some 1 year ago.
Sir i have worked for 6 months so in this case am i eligible to get PF and if yes than how much. I have registered many complaints in PF office and they have not replied me properly.My claim status shows that Form 19 b is passed and payment would be made soon and form 10 c is rejected on the account of services less than 6 months. What should i do in this condition please suugest
Claim ID : PUPUN120100038467
Status : Claim Form 10C for Withdrawal Benefit AGAINST Member Account No (PUPUN01206950000006970) has been rejected. Rejection letter is under dispatch/ dispatched to address in your claim
Claim ID : PUPUN120100038461
Status : Claim Form 19 for PF Settlement AGAINST Member Account No (PUPUN01206950000006970) has been approved. Payment is under process.
Hi,
Thanks for your article, its really very informative.
My question is –
In case we need to withdraw only the EPF amount and not the EPS amount. Is it possible? if so, how do we do it. I have completed around 8 years of service and to be eligible for pension 10yrs of service is required.
Thanks
Vineet
You then only fill form 10C ! ,, its for EPF withdrawal
Thanks
Hi
Manish, thanks a lot for the RTI template and useful information. If i need to file the RTI with EPFO, Kandivali, Mumbai, Should i take the postal order favoring “Accounts officer,EPFO, Kandivali, Mumbai” or just “Accounts Officer, EPFO, Mumbai”.
You just have to buy it , then you will fill it yourself !
I HAVE JOINED IN COMPANY IN JULY2004 I AM COVERED IN PF AFTER 8YEAR 2MONTHS COMPANY GIVE FULL &FINAL SATTELMENT AND I HAVE GOT SCHEME CERTIFICATE FROM PF NOW I AM NOT PF MEMBER IF CAN MY WIFE GET PENSION AFTER MY DEATH
Obviosuly NO ! .. Its already settled !
Hi Manish,
I have sent PF withdrawl form to my employer who in return confirmed over email that they have deposited the form to RPFC Bandra on 26 June 12. After three months ,on 27 Sep 12, I filed RTI to know the status as well as put query on EPFO Grievance Protal. Till date I haven’t received reply against my RTI but today i got reply from EPFO Grievacne portal stating that “as per system till dt claim form in r/o MH/48681/8292 is not received by RO Mumbai I Bandra office. ”
What should I do now? Shall I wait for revert of RTI or again fill the form and submit to perevious employer.
Also let me know in case i have to resubmit the form then how much time it will take to settle my A/c. Shall I give the reference of my misplace of form to respond fast by EPF office.
Please advice.
Thanks
Nitin Arora
It means that they have not recieved it , simple . Either your previous employer has goofed up or something has happened in between . Now better put the forms once again yourself.
Dear Manish
I am in a lot of mess with my PF withdrawal which I made myself.
PF a/c number GNGGN00252040000063974
I was working with Convergys from Jan 2009 till April 2011 when I left and applied for my PF withdrawal in august 2011 but made a huge mistake of closing the account in which my PF was supposed to be transferred.
The PF was transferred on 22nd dec 2011 but as the account was closed I did not get the PF amount.
So in march I applied for my PF withdrawal again in march 2012 but I recently checked the status online and it shows it has been rejected and the rejection letter is in dispatch/dispatched.
I called up the PF office in gurgaon and firstly they were very rude and told me that the amount has already been transferred through NEFT and I should check with the bank and they also told that if the a/c was closed the amount was not returned back to them.
I would highly appreciate if you can guide me through this mess
All you can do now is file a RTI and get the information in a more accurate way.
I also have a similar issue which nitin had and i m still struggling with it due to lack of info and assistance from EPFO. Here is my rant and you may guide me..
I have worked in two companies.
· company #1 – HCL technologies in NOIDA and their PF office was in gurgaon in harayana. My PF acc # HR/5572/93680
· company #2 – Computer science corporation in NOIDA, their PF office was in chennai – My PF acc # TN/52878/13123
I did a tfr from HR/5572/93680 to TN/52878/13123, before tfr could take place sucessfully, my job at CSC got terminated and CSC PF acc got settled/closed. So I don’t know where this money from tfr from HCL is and was told to fill Form 19 & 10C when i filed a grievance. To whom i have to give Form 19 & 10C, Is it HCL or CSC?
EPFO folks, don’t respond to email or phone as usual, open a new grievance which is pending for the past few months now.
Now you need to file RTI ,there is no other reliable and faster way to get info !
Hi Manish,
I had applied for PF Withdrawal to Bangalore PF office. My EPS amount has been credited to my ICICI bank account thru NEFT on 22-Oct-2012, however I am yet to receive the EPF amount. So does it happen like this & does EPF amount takes more time to get credited back to bank account? Can I check with my Bank to have an idea?
My Claim status online still shows the following info,
STATUS for Member ID: BGBNG00423570000016667
Claim ID : BGBNG121000001913
Status : Claim Form 19 for PF Settlement AGAINST Member Account No (BGBNG00423570000016667) has been approved. Payment is under process.
Claim ID : BGBNG121000001917
Status : Claim Form 10C for Withdrawal Benefit AGAINST Member Account No (BGBNG00423570000016667) has been approved. Payment is under process.
Looking forward for your reply.
Yes, it happens at times, I got 2 different credits in my account, for EPF and EPS, however it happened at a difference of few seconds only, which shows that the deposits happen seperately , so wait for some days , if EPS has come , mostly EPF will also come , if that does not happen . Better ask with help of RTI on the status !
Very nice and clear xplanation….keep the good show up man
Thanks Yuvraj !
Hi Manish,
I have done PF transfer from private trust based in Gurgaon to EPFO, Bandra,Mumbai. My previous employer has send the cheque in favor of “Regional Provident Fund Commissioner ,Mumbai ” and that cheque got cleared on 28th May 2012. Recently i got the e-passbook of my PF account, but the transfer details are not listed in that. Only my present employer transaction details are found. In this matter RTI will be of any help.
regards.
Vinesh
Yes, just ask your queries in RTI app .
Hello,
I have a question regarding EPF.I had an EPF acount in my old company but the company did not issue me an experience and relieving certificate instead they also blocked my EPF acount.Now how can I get my EPF acount unblocked from that company and I am now working abroad for a foreign employer.
Please let me know how to deal with this. Thanks in advance!
Navin
You can get your EPF thing without your employer signature, i will soon write on this !
Dear Manish sir,
Please Provide me.
Central Information Officer address for Maharashtra state, Pune.
so that i can file RTI.
Thanking you.
My email id : subhashmayangade@gmail.com
You can get it on EPF website
Dear Manish sir,
Thanks for Provide Good Information related to EPF Withdrawals.
I am from Pune, I have also facing same problem of PF withdrawals since 9th to 10th months. the PF Pearson everytime told us 3A not attached , 6A not attached but physically the employer already provide all information like the same. 6A , 3A, 12A . i Have also but PF person not complete the PF withdrawals process. Please help me before filling to RTI.
What kind of help do you need in filing the RTI ? ALl you need to do in RTI is ask questions . Please start a thread on forum – https://www.jagoinvestor.com/forum/
Dear Manish,
This is in regard to my PF Claims, I am currently working abroad. I had filed an RTI application to understand the reason of cheque returns against my PF Claims.
As per EPFO the cheques were returned as I had provided my NRI Bank account details.
Also the EPFO has suggested to provide fresh Form 19 & 10C (ASR Form) to reclaim with up to date interest.
Dear Manish, Please suggest if I need to resend all the documents mentioned above directly to the EPFO or I should send the same through my previous employer.
Looking forward to your guidance and suggestion in this matter.
Regards
Vinay
You should send it directly now .
Dear Manish,
I would like to thank you for putting up this topic. I took help of http://www.rtination.com and paid them however its more than 1 week and haven’t heard anything from them about the application that they will format and send me for signature. Do you know about the credibility of http://www.rtination.com ?
Its like at one side I have dilemma of EPFO and other side now rtination.
Thanks
Prashant
It has been reffered as one of the best option for RTI filing at various places on net. Can you check with them once on customer care if its there .
Dear Manish
I was worked in Bangalore under KR-puram EPFO office from2007-2009. i left the bangalore 2009 some family problem reason i shift to the rajashthan.i tried to contact my previous employer he is not giving any respose. then i directly submit claim kr-puram office with all support document. after one month they reject my claim on dated 05.10.2012. they also send rejetion letter but till date i have not recived letter.
please give me advice for my pf-withdrawn what i do.
can i file the RTI
Sunil Pareek ( 8011051634)
Yes ,you better file an RTI now
Hi Manish,
I need a bit of advice on EPF transfer I had submitted a copy of Form 13 for transferring EPF balance. However, the transfer got rejected (strangely the rejection took place after after the transfer was approved). Below is a chronology of events that took place:
1. I submitted Form 13 to my current employer who then forwarded it to my previous employer on 22nd Aug 2012.
2. After a few follow ups with my previous employer I was informed that the PF Transfer application had been submitted on 13th Sep 2012
3. I then decided to track the status on the EPFO website http://www.epfindia.com/ClaimStatus_New.html
4. At first the status for transfer for a Claim ID TNXXXXXXXXXX26594 with a Status “Claim Form 13 for Transfer to New Account Number: AGAINST Old Member Account No (TNXXXXXXXXXXX0B0013298) has been approved. Payment is under process.”. This was the status as on 21st Sep 2012.
5. On 11th Sep 2012, the status on the same page reads “Claim Form 13 for Transfer to New Account Number: AGAINST Old Member Account has been rejected. Rejection letter is under dispatch/ dispatched to address in your claim”. The status remains the same till date.
Now I understand that I need to follow up on this matter. Given the short time it has taken for the process the matter, I would like to wait for one-two weeks to for the formal rejection letter as it may contain a valid cause. Based on which I may need to file a fresh application or a greviance/RTI (in case the rejection letter does not arrive). My concern is that what are the chances of the accumulated amount getting lost due to some clerical mistake (or any other unforeseen causes)
Please advise,
Thanks and Regards,
Wriju Bharadwaj
I suggest file a RTI anywyas .. anywyas it will cost just Rs 10 .
Hi Manish,
Thanks for the reply, lets what comes out of the RTI
But I am not filing that rti ?
Ha ha 😀
I filed a grievance and got confirmation from the Chennai office that the amount has been transferred in December. However my current employer remained mum about the whole.
When I charged the PF team regarding the transfer and delay it led to an escalation and after two months of arguments the team finally admitted the delay and error and now they have confirmed the amount is going to be credited in my account.
Thanks for your suggestions.
Cheers…
Good 🙂
Hi Manish and friends,
firstly thanks Manish for such a precious information you shared.
I have filed my RTI application in Sep last week for my pf claim withdrawl which is pending since 3 months.
I also raised a grievance on protal for which i got a reply after 30 days saying my claim is pending at DA initiator level. Any clue on what this DA initiation process is ??
BR,
Madan.
I have no idea on that Madan , but did you get RTI reply ?
I’m hoping to hear from them soon. It’s only 15 days since i have applied from.
I’ll keep you posted. Thanks for the information though
Dear Manish,
I Was worked in bangalore 2007-09 and i left the job 2009 but i claim the my pf 01.09.2012 after one the reject my claim. i have sent all necessary document to epfo KR puram bangalore ( As form 19,10C bank passbook with sing, Affidavit )
they given claim id also.
please give me advice for rejection of claim and how to file rti
Sunil pareek
8011051634
The RTI has to be filed in the same manner as discussed in the article !
I really appreciate you making these efforts and helping so many people Manish. Your work here is really commendable! 🙂
Thanks Hitesh
Hi Manish,
My PF A/c in PUNE, currently I am working in Jodhpur (Rajasthan). My previous co. was submitted my PF withdrawal form 3-4 times but every time PF department Rejected my Claim form, Earlier 3 times Rejected due to 3A Form, but in month of MAY 2012 Co. against submitted my PF form with 3A, but till today I can’t received any amount in my A/c can you let me I filed a RTI or not, If yes pls. let me the Address for file RTI. And also let me it is necessary for withdrawal of PF the Bank a/c is in PUNE.
Thanks.
Naveen
You can file the RTI as per the instructions given in the article
Hi,
I have applied for PF withdrawl once i shifted to new company, PF office is at Bangalore and I checked online, it is showing that they have received on 16th Aug 12 and the status is under Process. Kindly let me know when can i get credit to my account as we have already passed more than 45 days.
Vasim
You should better take the RTI route now !
Hi Manish,
You have mentioned in your article that in Haryana the RTI application fee is Rs.50. I belive since EPFO is a central organization although we are requesting any information from PF offices in Haryana through RTI we only need to pay Rs.10. Could you please confirm?
Thanks,
Jubin
EPFO is a central org , But RTI is not , RTI is statewise and the fees is different for different states, but in general its Rs 10 only . I read at one site that for Haryana its Rs 50 . It might have got changed now , you can get this info on RTI haryana websit
I want to withdraw EPF for home\flat purchase. How much amount may i withdraw.and how much time in general it takes. Total amount in my PF amount is as below
transferred from prev. orgainsation =5 Lacs( 3L EE+2L ER)
current organisation cotribution=20K(15K EE+5K ER)
current basic =65K, But PF contribution is 12% of 6500=780 only
Navin
Have you completed 10 yrs of service and you are taking the home loan purely on your name ? ONly then its possible , refer this – https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2012/05/epf-facts-employee-providend-fund.html
I have completed 10 years of service and taking home loan in name of me and my wife and i am going for loan/advance for home purchase( so condition is min. 5 year of service).I have gone through epf facts, but still have confusion.How much amount may i withdraw.and how much time in general it takes. Total amount in my PF amount is as below
transferred from prev. orgainsation =5 Lacs( 3L EE+2L ER)
current organisation cotribution=20K(15K EE+5K ER)
current basic =65K, But PF contribution is 12% of 6500=780 only
If I recall , i think you need 10 yrs of service for getting money from EPF for home purpose ? no ?
Hi Manish,
I have completed 10 years of service. I am more worried about exact amount, which i may withdraw from epf office.If possible, kindly suggest , based on data provided in above query
Navin
Sorry its 5 yrs only .. if you see my article https://www.jagoinvestor.com/2012/05/epf-facts-employee-providend-fund.html
Here are the rules
– You should have completed at least five years of service.
– The maximum amount you can avail of is 36 times your wages. To buy a site or plot, the amount is 24 times your salary.
– Can be avail of it just once during the entire service.
Hi Manish,
I have been waiting for my PF money for a year now. I left my job last year in june i.e. june 2011 and submitted the PF withdrawl forms with the HR of my previous company who in turn submitted the forms to PF office in sep 2011. When i didn’t recieve any money by december 2011, i started following up with the HRs and after much of here n theres they informed me that the EPFO doesn’t have the MICR code of my bank account and asked me to resend a cancelled chek along with an application to EPFO office vadodra. I did that and finally in march 2012, these docs were submitted to EPFO vadodra. Even after that i didn’t recieve any money and after contonuous followup i got a mail 2 days back from HR that they have got a confirmation from EPFO that my PF claims are approved and EPFO has credited my money to a SBI a/c wth a/c no. 3****.. which is DEFINETLY NOT MY ACCOUNT. i never gave any details of my sbi a/c. i gave details of my icici account infact i don’t hold any sbi account. I don’t understand how to handle this. And to add up to my problems i don’t live in india anymore.
Sadly its frustrating , but you should now file a RTI for this , use online RTI filing websites and complete this . I suspect some kind of error is there !
Dear Manish,
I have submitted my PF withdrawl form at EPFO Bandra Mumbai on 26th June 2012. Till date I haven’t received the amount. I have checked online status as well where it showed “No records found”. I have also put my grievance at site on 14.09.2012 but no revert received as of now and nobody is picking up the phone on the no. mentioned. Kindly let me know shall I wait further or go for RTI.
Thanks
Nitin Arora
Though it has been just few months, still you can file a RTI for this !
Hello,
Thanks a lot for this article, I find it very useful. This forum really awakes (jago) the investors.
I worked in company A (in Pune) then moved to B (in Bangalore) & currently in company C.
I first filled application to transfer the fund from A to B, once I got the confirmation from there official site about the amount settlement, I filled the form to withdraw the entire amount from B.
When I calculated the amount I found that the credited amount is only from company B.
I first filled the RTI with Pune PF office, they confirmed that amount is credited in Bangalore along with transaction details. They also mentioned that they sent the annexure K form to Bangalore.
After that I filled the RTI to Bangalore office (also attached a copy of response which I got from Pune RTI).
I am surprised to see the response from Bangalore office, They mentioned in RTI response that amount is not yet transferred from Pune.
Bangalore PF office closed my account as well after crediting the amount of company B. Company A’s amount is still missing.
I have following queries
1. What should I do now? Where should I go? I have RTI responses from both offices. They are contradictory.
2. Account B (in Bangalore) is closed (got this status from their site), in case money gets transfer from Pune to Bangalore, how would I get the money, Bangalore account is already closed?
Please help me in getting the answer.
Atul
You should again file a RTI to find out answer for the contradiction , Make sure when you ask questions, you keep notice of what things can go wrong !
While filling the RTI I tried to be precise as much as possible. Not sure how it would help if I fill the RTI again.
I want to send you RTI requests & responses which I got.
Can you please give your email id ?
Please help.
Atul
Atul
Please start a thread on our forum https://www.jagoinvestor.com/forum/ , we will discuss it there !
Hi,
I am also facing the same situation. I was working in company A which was aquired by company B. After 1 month of transfer to the parent company I left the company and join company C. I have requested for withdrawal of the amount. After 2 month when i received the amount it was only for one month(The month which i spend on the payroll of the parent comany B) The entire amount from the company A is still pending. I have enquired from the online partal to check the status of my PF account it shows transfer in process (Company A maintain his PF swith EPFO office and company B maintain their own PF trust)
Now I think comany B has settled my account and the amount from company A is in the process of transfer. My question is where this amount will go(It is transferring from EPFO office to company B’s PF trsut).
PLease help me to get my PF amount. Let me know what need to be done.
Thanks in advance
Nitin Nandeshwar
I think you should just file an RTI now .. other wise its tough to get authentic info
Dear Manish,
My pension certificate is pending past 2 years. I found out that the people wrongly settled my pension and gave me 2 years of pension money by mistake. So I rushed to their office and returned the money. My Pension scheme certificate has got stuck due to return of money. My membership is for more than 20 years. I Filed and RTI last month, but they havent replied yet ( 21 days past). What is the procedure for appeals? is there an appeal format with you.
please reply on my email and post here also
kind regds
Percy
Wait for more days .. they are legally bound to reply within 30 days ,but at times it goes till 45-50 days also !
Hi,
My EPF was pending for 3 years with EPF RO Bandra Mumbai. Last month I filed an RTI online through http://www.rtination.com and today I recieved my EPF amount in the Bank A/c. (3 weeks time). Another success story for RTI. I got the information from this website. Really helped me a lot. Thanks a lot.Cheers.
Good to hear that Dhanesh
Good on you Manish. This is very helpful..
Thanks 🙂
Hi Manish,
I submitted my pf form 3 months before in the Gurgaon PF office. On 30th of June, i received a sms from EPF office stating that, “the claim form has been received on 30th June and your claim is in process”.
But as of today more than 2 months have been passed but I didn’t receive my amount.
Could you please suggest me on this? should I file a RTI for this or need to wait for some more time? As per Govt. what is the time period defined to settle a claim after receiving the claim form?
Many Thanks,
Sameer
I am not sure of the prescribed limits , but i had read somewhere its 9 months . File a RTI now
Hey RTI Team, Many Thanks for your great service !! I was waiting for my EPF money for an year since I applied and with a lot of frustration & worriness. Finally when I used RTI nation and filed my case I have received my EPF money within a month. Hats Off to you guys !! Indeed a great service to nation !!! Many Thanks again for providing such a great service to people of India..
Thanks,
Ramesh
Good to hear that Ramesh 🙂 .. spread this news to more and more people !
Dear Manish,
I have submitted my PF withdrawl form at EPFO Bandra Mumbai on 26th June 2012. Till date I haven’t received the amount. I have checked online status as well where it showed “No records found”. I have also put my grievance at site on 14.09.2012 but no revert received as of now and nobody is picking up the phone on the no. mentioned. Kindly let me know shall I wait further or go for RTI.
Thanks
Nitin Arora
Wait for more time , but also file the RTI paralellY
Dear Manish,
Further to my discussion with you on this page on July12,2012. I applied to RTI for information on the Balance of my PF accumulation on July 14,2012 in the prescribed manner. However, till date there is no reply to the same after 40 days. Seek further suggestions to take the matter forward.
In that case you will have to file first appeal , Was your RTI application too long and full of unneccessary queries ? see this http://www.rtiindia.org/guide/how-to-use-your-right-to-information-4/how-to-write-first-appeal-under-rti-2/
Dear Manish,
I must thank you and the blog members for the assistance I received in filing the RTI application for retrieving information on the unsettled PF amount lying with the Regional PF Commissioner Office at Mumbai for 12 years. After 7 RTI applications I have been able to retrieve 60% of the PF accumulations during August ,13. The very help i got through your site is the simple format and procedure you provide to help RTI Applicants.
Thanks
Biplab
Great . Thanks for sharing that 🙂 . File more RTI and claim back all the money 🙂
After I left my previous company, I made an application for EPF withdrawl and got it in my account within few weeks. But I had a doubt on the amount I received. I registered an online grievance and got an e-mail stating my grievance registration number, date of registration, officer name, contact no. e-mail id, who will be handling my complaint and a statement that I will get the reply in next three working days. After a week sent an e-mail to the concerned officer and I got reply that the id is official blocked and I should send it to an other e-mail id. Now I sent my query to that e-mail id also but in vain. Then I called up the number given and a lady picked the phone and replied that you will receive the reply in few days. After another week i.e. after 16days of grievance registration, I checked the status of online grievance and found a reply stating that correct amount has been credited to my account and my case was closed on its own. Now I want to know whether raising an RTI will help?
Ankur
Yes, raise a RTI and ask them how the amount was calculated , tell them your number, they will reply you with the details . I dont think there are chances of any error from their side, it would be a very rare case
I left my previous company in 2010 and didn’t do anything with the PF. I was checking the status online and it showed the message “Your account has been settled….”. What does this mean and how to follow-up with EPF office. This account is in Bangalore and am currently in Pune.
You should now file a RTI application to know the exact status !
Hi Manish,
I had applied for PF Withdrawal to Hyderabad PF office. My Form 10C (Pension) amount has been credited to my bank account thru NEFT, however I am yet to receive the Form 19 (Final Settlement) amount. So does it happen like this & does Form 19 amount takes more time to get credited back to bank account?
Looking forward for your reply.
Ideally it should get credited in same time frame, In my case I got the money for both the things the same day through NEFT only , in your case its taking time, does not look right to me , still wait for a month and then file a RTI to find out the answer!
Hi Manish,
I have applied for transfer of my PF account since 30 months from Pune to BLR. When I look for the claim status of Pune account, it gives no info. however when I look for the BLR PF account status it gives some info like “Your transfer in details for crediting new account has been received and the same is under process.”. I checked the balance in both the PF accounts, and they have the old amount (those are updated till 31-03-11). Nothing is transferred yet. Do you know wt does the above status means? and wt should be the next action?
I had registered my grievance as well and they said they can not trace my form.
Thanks.
Sarita
You should not go with RTI route , one can never be sure about the exact status like this .
What do u suggest as the next plan of action? does that status mean anything at all?
Hi Sarita,
Better file a RTI with both the offices.
I think even Manish want to convey the same (by mistake he has mentioned NOT).
You can also check my comments and manish reply above your comments.
I am also facing the same issue.
Thanks,
Swetank
Hi Manish,
Can I know the procedure to get the EPF account transfered from Gurgaon to Mumbai. Since 5 years account is held there itself. Actually we tried with the previous company, but never responded. Plz help me to get my money transfered to my present company where I am working.
Sunitha
Refer to this – http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/45449-pf-transfer-process.html
Hi Manish,
Thanks for highlighting the steps to file an RTI for EPF related queries.
One Quick question, my pf office is in KR PURAM (Bangalore), should i address my letter to KR Puram office or to the below address
Office of the Addl. Central Provident Fund Commissioner
(Karnataka & Goa),
Bhavishyanidhi Bhavan,
No. 13, Raja Ram Mohan Roy Road,
Bangalore – 560 025 (KN).
If you have a seperate address for KR Puram , then better address it to that only . It means there are two offices in bangalore , correct !
Hi Manish,
This is really a wonderful social work you are doing! I have suffered a lot to get PF transferred from one office to another as I kept changing my jobs. Each time, it takes many months/years to this through. I have visited the KR Puram office so many times. Going by the number of complaints against it, It appears KR Puram is one of the worst PF offices in India.
Now, the question to you is: Does every PF office have a Central Public Information Officer? If not, I may have to find out which office has such an officer and address my letter to him.
Regards,
Harsha
I found the answer :
Officer-in-Charge of all Sub-Regional/Sub Accounts Offices, in the
cadre of Regional Commissioner-II/Assistant Commissioner have
been designated as CAPIO.
So, I will address this letter to KR Puram PF office.
Its not each branch , but the jurisdiction , so KR PUram will have one of the CPIO . Better address him in RTI letter now . Its much effective than personally visiting the EPFO office
Hi Manish,
Thank you for this great post.
I had applied for my EPF transfer on 29 March, 2011. I also have the proof of submission as well as reciept of transfer request by the RPFO Gurgaon.
From last 16 months I am getting the below message:
*****
Status : Claim Form 13 for Transfer to New Account Number: AGAINST Old Member Account No (GNGGN**************) has been approved. Payment is under process.
******
I do not understand why they need so much time for transfer and just 2-3 months for withdrawal?
Thanks,
Swetank
Why so much time ! … thats what every body is asking .. sarkari work ! . you know how it works, but you could have filed a RTI in start only and seen it resolving much faster !
Hi Manish,
I have already filed my RTI dated 19th July, 2012 and it has been received by the concerned office on 21st July, 2012.
Before filing RTI, I have also raised a grievance request (status of which is shown below) on which they never took an action and start to work on it after getting my RTI application.
**********************
Registration Number :HRGGN/E/2012/*******
Name of Complainant :Mr Swetank Saroj
Address of Complainant : ****************
Date of Receipt :16/06/2012
Received By :EPFO, RO, Gurgaon
——————————————————————————–
Current Status :Under Examination at our level
Date of Action :17/07/2012
Case Presently Dealt By :EPFO, RO, Gurgaon
Concerned Officer :BEERBAL MEENA
Contact Address :BEERBAL MEENA
EPFO, PLOT NO-43 SECTOR-44 GURGAON
Email Address :
Contact Number :0124257****
Case Pending with:EPFO, RO, Gurgaon
——————————————————————————–
**********************
I hope they give a reply to my RTI.
Is it possible that they do not reply to a RTI application?
Will they reply me via e-mail or send a letter to my address?
Will they definitely reply me by 21st or 22nd August, 2012?
Thanks,
Swetank
They will send you the reply by post only and it should happen within 30 days of them recieving it, so by 21st or 22nd aug , they should dispatch their reply ! . Please update what happened in your case !
will they send the reply using ordinary post or speed-post?
in case I do not receive the reply, what would be my next course of action?
Thanks,
Swetank
They should send it by normal post , I got one by normal post only . iF they do not send you reply within that time , you have option for FIRST APPEAL , let this situation happen first and then you can look at it !
Manish,
Its been 32 days and I have not recieved the reply for my RTI query.
I think now its time for FIRST APPEAL, need your help in drafting the same.
I know I should wait for few more days but by the time you will check this comment and reply I will be at the correct time to raise my appeal.
Thanks,
Swetank
Swetank , I have not done it personally, you better take some things from here http://www.rtiindia.org/guide/how-to-use-your-right-to-information-4/how-to-write-first-appeal-under-rti-2/
Manish,
As I have not received any reply from the RPFC, Gurgaon, I have drafted and sent my FIRST APPEAL.
Have sent you an e-mail with an attachment of my letter.
Request you to just give a little time out of your busy schedule and please also post a draft version of FIRST APPEAL format (you can use mine, if it is ok).
I am still waiting to get my replies and case solved by RPFC, Gurgaon. 🙁
Thanks,
Swetank
Actually I have myself not drafted First Appeal ever, so I am not the right person to say if its “right” or “wrong” . I would suggest you better enquire on our forum or on the website which I pointed you to .
Manish,
Thank you for your reply.
Please find below a few useful links, which can be of great help for the people try to approach respective PIO officers in PF departments.
http://www.epfindia.com/rti_officers.html
the same list in PDF format:
http://tinyurl.com/epf-RTI-officers-list
the below link contains a very well drafted general RTI letter format; which can be used even for other purposes.
http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/blogs/jps50/69-any-thing-pending-govt.html
Hope these details will be helpful for other netizens.
Thanks,
Swetank
Thanks for those links , why dont you yourself give us a guest post on first appeal ! .. we will publish it
Manish,
Today on 19th September, 2012; I receive a sms from EPFO stating that my transfer claim has been rejected.
The idiots took 18 months to confirm a rejection and have not replied till date for my First appeal to thr initial RTI query.
I am searching about other options online, do you have any further idea for the same?
Thanks,
Swetank
Rejected for what ? On what basis ?
Hi Manish,
Just received an sms for rejection of my transfer claim.
Somehow got to talk to the concerned person; they informed that they have rejected my claim and refile it on their own with a different way.
They have asked for some more details and now will be doing an online transfer.They also confirmed that they will be doing it within 2-3 weeks, lets see. It seems they are doing this just to hide their mistakes and inefficiencies.
Regards,
Swetank
Hmm .. may be .. lets wait for 2-3 more weeks and you shoudl ideally get your EPF money
Sir,
I am here with writing this in the hope spirit after reading the above information and the RTI weapon results. I do have some questions, if I get them cleared I can start the process for filing RTI.
I had applied for withdrawal longtime back through my Ex-employer only (2009 to 2010) and I am not sure if they have submitted the form because I did not get any acknowledgment for this.
The applied PF account #KN/24676/3771….THIS IS HOW IT IS THERE IN THE PF SLIP
Now my ex-employer’s company name had been changed and I am unable to find the balanced amount in the EPFO, as the results came as account does not exist.
I was working in Bangalore and my PF account is in Bangalore only, later I was transferred to Hyderabad and the same PF account was continued, the company’s corporate office was in Bangalore only.
I have even applied second time through same Ex-employer and the result was the same as was for the first time, no acknowledgment, status of application amount has been transferred, etc,…
Now my question is that from where am I suppose to start????
You should be writing a RTI query to your Ex-employer jurisdiction EPF office and ask them if they have recieved the withdrawal request or not , If no , then what is to be done for withdrawal request , If yes, then what is the status ! ..Go ahead
sir
i am working in an organisation from 4 feb 2012 and have to resign on 31 july 2012 due to some reasons.when i will apply for my pf withdrawl will i get the EPS(pension) benefits……pls reply asap
Yes you will get that too !
Sir, i have worked in an college in bangalore from nov 2008 to march 2012. For epf, the college debited Rs.780 from my monthly salary each month from feb 2010 to march 2012 (26 months). the college is not willing to releave me from their institution. And also not providing the epf account number to me. So i cant able to withdraw my entire epf amount for above mentioned 26 months.
Can anyone tell me how to find my epf number and also to withdraw my amount without the employer’s(college) help..
waiting for positive results..
Thanks
S.Muthukumar
Muthukumar
You must be having the EPF number in your salary slip , if you are not having it still , you can get it from EPF website , but putting establishment code of your company in their website , do one thing, start a thread at our forum on this – https://www.jagoinvestor.com/forum/
Hi Manish, Firstly Thank you very much for providing such a great service for the nation. Today I have filed my RTI document for EPF withdrawal delay issue.
Could you tell me with the current scenario what would be the timeline to get the response ?
Thanks.
30 days from the date of receipt of the application !
Hi Manish,
i am not sure whether my earlier request got posted with you. I am really hopeful of a resolution of my long pending EPF issue with my ex-employer :
* I was employed with a Public Ltd. Company for almost 10 years , during 2001 I resigned from my services with the ex-employer and gave 45 days’ Notice.
* As per the Company Rules 60 days’ Notice / equivalent pay is required , however, my ex employer refused to accept my resignation on the ground of short notice period. However I went ahead and joined my new employer
* Till date after 11 years and several request letters, applications, etc. and after I have changed three jobs since then , I have not received my accumulated EPF. Nor the employer replied to my letters.
* Please suggest should I go for RTI or some other legal recourse to recover the hard earned savings.
Regards,
Biplab.
Obviosuly you should go for RTI now , i am surprised how you waited for 11 yrs .
File an RTI and ask questions like
1. Did my withdrawal request happen at all ? (it might have happened that it never happened)
2. If yes, how much time it will take to come ?
3. If Not, what is the procedure to apply for it
4. What is the current balance in my EPF account and how much interest has been credited in last 11 yrs !
Manish
Thanks Manish,
Yes i have sent an application under RTI to EPFO , Mumbai. Thanks again for providing the application format as well suggested queries.
Biplab
Nice .. come again after 30 days and let us know the status !
Hi,
Thanks Manish again, this is really wonderful article on RTI.
I am filling an RTI to Banagalore office, is there any word limit? Although I tried to put only important things however total number of words coming in the RTI letter is 296? Please suggest.
Thanks in advance.
Atul
Atul
Yes, you should keep it at minimum 296 is really good. one should keep minimum like 1000, but yours is way below the limit , so good .
The point is to keep it to the point ! , best of luck !
Thanks Manish. Your blogs says for karnataka limit is 150 words. If 150 is not the limit then please update it the blog.
Here is the snippet
>> “•Be very specific while asking the questions, don’t ask unimportant or unnecessary questions, because some states like Karanataka have limits on the number of words in the RTI application (150 incase of Karnataka)”
It might have changed now , check on the website of the department concerned !
Hi,
I have moved from India couple of months back. Before moving, I have transferred my Post Office RD a/c to my native place. But even after 3 months, the RD is not transferred and I am not able to trace where the RD is? How can I file an RTI and to whom I have to address in this case.
Thanks,
Ankur
Yes you can file a RTI here and you will have to address is to CPIO of the head post office in your jurisdiction , you can do it only using those website which help you file RTI applications online !
My Friend worked with a Private Company which was having its Own PF Trust.Unfortunately he expired leaving his parents & 1 brother, 3 sisters in family.The company informed that he had made His Brother as nominee in PF Account(Which is not Allowed as per PF Act rules).His brother himself is a Govt Employee.The company is saying that ,they will give PF to brother as they have no problem & they will also send the Form2 with Pension Forms & EDLI forms to concerned PF Commissioner.
My query is:
1- Can the PF Trust of Company give money to Deceased Employee’s Brother overriding PF Act(As it is actually Company’s PF Trust)?
2-Can a brother get Pension ie EPS 95 & also the EDLI throught life as he is himself a Govt. Employee?
3-Can Mother apply for PF withdrawl & the brother apply for pension(as he has a long life & thus greater pension period)?
4-If brother receives pension other than salary,will the pension be taxable?
Pls answer above queries at the earliest as dear Manishji is having all the capabilities to answer the above queries,I believe.
warm regards
Vikal
thanks
Vikal
I hope you understand the NOMINEE Is just a person for recieving the money and not the final owner .
1. Yes he can get it, but on showing death certificate and filling up some forms
2. I dont think so
3. yes she can also get it , but in this case as she is not a NOMINEE ,she will have to give succession certificate which she will get from court.
4. Yes it will be taxable
Hi Team,
I have submitted a withdrawal request 3 months back for my 3 yrs back pF account , that time balance was showing in my account when i checked it online but now it shows
“Your Account has been marked as In-operative Account. For details please contact respective EPF Office”
WHat to do in this case , Please guide me Anyone
Thanks
Ram Niwas Sahu
niwasenator@gmail.com
Was your account inoperative from last 3 yrs ? Because after 3 yrs if there is no activity, EPF account becomes dormant . Do one thing, now you better use RTI for enquiring about your EPF
Hi,
I want to know the process of RTI for getting inforamtion about my village panchayath funds were used for last 2 years.
As we know that there is a lot of corruption is happening but we do not have evidence to question them.Can anyone help me so that I can stop curraption and be a part of my vellage development
the process is same as explained in this article, instead of EPF , it would be village panchayt, but do they come under RTI ? IS there any govt body representing it ?
Hi,
This is reply for a grievance registered by me in regard to my PF Claim.
Can you please suggest further action i should take in this regard.
(This is with reference to your Grievance registered vide Registration Number DELSO/E/2012/05116.
It is informed that your grievance is being treated as non-actionable due to the following reason(s):
PF and EPS claims have been settled for Rs. xxxxx/- and Rs. zzzzz/- vide cheque no. 597675 and 603319 dated 02/03/2012 and to cheque returned date.06/03/2012.Plz- dubmited form ASR.
Therefore, we are closing your grievance from this office.Please quote the same in your future correspondence.)
So your cheque are returned, this exact thing happened with my wife EPF also , I have filed a new RTI asking them to put the money through another cheque to our address again or directly deposit in our account through NEFT, do the same thing
Hi Manish,
The RTI Application format is no longer accessible.
https://www.jagoinvestor.com/wp-content/uploads/files/img/files/EPF-RTI-Letter-template.pdf
Could you please check and upload the same.
Vijay
there was some thing going on which messed it up , check now
First of all thanks a lot for wonderful post. This post clearly tells how to fill the RTI. I find it very useful.
I filled the RTI around 20 days before, no response yet, is there any way I can track the record?
Atul
Atul
Wait for more days .. the turnaround time for RTI application is 30 days from the date the other side gets it , so you should wait for 15-20 more days . If you have filed with properly you will get a reply for sure !
Very useful info indeed. I too have a similar case of not receiving any info about my PF balance and transfer initiated by my prev employer. I would go ahead and file RTI as mentioned.
Thank you so much for sharing this
Let us know what happens after 1 month of filing the RTI !
Your information proved useful for me. I had given for withdrawal of my EPF and did not receive it for two year even after filing grievance.I was hesitant on filing RTI but the clarity with which you explained in the above page made it quite easy. RTI did the trick and I received it around 25 days after filing the RTI. Thanks
Vivek
Good to hear that 🙂
Hi Manish,
Is there any procedure that transfer request can be cancelled and I can opt for PF withdrawal
I am not sure .. on this .. Better query through RTI itself
Hi Manish,
I had applied for the PF transfer from my old organisation STERIA, Noida to new organisation DELL PEROT SYSTEM.
This tranfer request had been approved but unfortenately the cheque is not received by the Dell Perot system PF office and returned back to Noida PF office. After that I filled the Withdrawal forms 19 and 10C for Steria PF and submitted it in Noida PF office. But that PF withdrawal request had been rejected and the reason of rejection was claim already settled.
But this claim is not settled because neither this Steria PF amount is transferred ( due to return of cheque) nor withdrawan by me.
Moreover I had already withdrawn the Dell Perot system PF amount.
So can you tell me is there any process that the above mentioned PF transfer should be reversed and I can opt for PF withdrawal. Also Please suggest me where should I need to apply for PF withdrawal in Noida PF office or in Dell Perot system PF office.
ISH
A similar issue I am also facing for my wife EPF , our cheque was also returned from our home because no one was at home . We came to know this when we filed an RTI , and then I recently filed an RTI to know when will I get the revised cheques ? You should also find out from the RTI application about your query . File an RTI first to the source (STERIA) to get the exact info and status
Hi Manish,
It seems my previous company has still not submitted my PF withdrawal application. It’s been 5 months now.Is there any time-limit for companies to submit the PF withdrawal claims to the PF office?
No there is no time limit like this . Enquire in your company why they have not done it . If they dont do it , you can file it yourself
I am still not able to access the website…. the link mentioned by you in the reply or the one mentioned in this article takes me to the same page… which says the domain has expired – This domain name expired on Jun 18 2012 09:59AM
Click here to renew it.
NO , I dont see that .. i think you need to clear your cache 🙂
The RTInation website is not working any more … the domain name has expired… any news on this??????????
I can see it working properly just now .. have a look again . .what is the url you are seeing ? I am seeing http://www.rtination.com/register
Hi Manish,
First of all thanks for this wonderful information.
Recently i have shifted to a new company. They have generated PF account number. I tried to check my PF balance online but I could NOT find Region code and office code (mentioned in the PF account number) in the below link http://epfoservices.in/epfo/member_balance/member_balance_office_select.php
Please suggest in this case how to get to know correct information? Will RTI help here also?
If its very new EPF accoutn , may be the info is not updated !
Hi Manish,
What happens to the EPF if employee goes absconding ? If the company has its own PF trust then can that company seal the EPF for that employee. This topic may not be related to this post but if you know about it please help me 🙂
If employee goes absconding , then the nominee of the person or legal heirs can approach the company to understand the next process . the employee might either be considered as dead after a point or else it will become tough to take out the EPF money .
Hi,
Thank you for the updates you have given here. Its very informative and i am going to file one RTI based on above mentioned steps. My case is, i worked on a concern in Chennai from 2006 to 2007 and they maintained my PF accounts in RPF Chennai. In 2008 i joined a new concern in Chennai but, they maintained my PF accounts in RPF Kandivalli(Mumbai). I opted for a PF transfer from 1st concern to 2nd concern, but to my sadness the transfer amount not got credited to the 2nd account. This is because i opted for PF withdrawal from 2nd concern on Jan 2009 and i received my cheque on Oct 2009, then i went to my 1st concern and submitted a PF withdrawal form to RPF Chennai. They replied me in written that your PF funds has been credited to your 2nd PF account on May 2009, so, rejecting the application form. I got this reply to my house address on June 2010. From that date i have been raising grievances to both the office RPF Chennai and RPF Mumbai. Both of them are not updating me correct information as what happened to the 9017 rs(PF amount accumulated in my 1st concern). Recently went to Chennai RPF and inquired directly on this, they gave me cheque no and the date of the transfer (From Chennai RPF to Mumbai RPF). With these information i filed grievance against RPFO Kandivalli on April 17. But, i have not received any reply till date. Now, i am going to file RTI to RPF Mumbai against the status of the cheque no provided to me by Chennai accounts officer. I will update the forum about the status of my issue after some time.
Yea good to see that you will be filing the RTI .. update us on what is the status
I found following link has a very useful document to understand RTI Act. It covers Do’s and Don’t’s .
http://circulars.nic.in/WriteReadData/CircularPortal/D2/D02rti/1_8_2007_IR.pdf
Thanks for the link . will have a look
Many thanks for response Manish.
Just found the pune address. Now I am mentioning the following address in “To” field of the letter & sending it to the same address using speed post. This is correct right ?
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Central Public Information Officer
Employees’ Provident Fund Organization,
2nd and 3rd Floor, Pune Cantonment Board Building,
Near Golibar Maidan, Camp, Pune-411001 (Maharashtra).
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Thanks in advance
Atul
Yes . speed post or registered post
Hi,
I am filling the RTI application, seeking the PF trasfer status. Both my source & destination accounts are in Pune. In the “To” field of the application I mentioned the following address. Is it correct ?
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Central Public Information Officer
Employees’ Provident Fund Organization,
Office of the Addl. Central Provident Fund Commissioner
(Maharashtra & Chhattisgarh),
Bhavishya Nidhi Bhavan,
341, Bandra (East),
Mumbai – 400 051
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Also where should I send the RTI application? Shall I send it to the above address or at either of the following address
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RO, Pune
APFC, Post Box No. 226, IInd Floor, Pune Cantonment Board Building, Golibar Maidan, Pune – 411 001 ro.pune@epfindia.gov.in
020-26402120
OR
Shri N.K.Sakpal, RPFC II,
Post Box No. 226, IInd Floor, Pune Cantonment Board Building, Golibar Maidan, Pune – 411 001 ro.pune@epfindia.gov.in
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Thanks in advance.
Atul
Why are you addressing it to Bandra Office in Mumbai , you said that in your case its PUNE ?
Hi ,
Thanks for posting such a valuable information. Can you please tell me does RTI cover exempted PF trust? My previous employer maintains the PF in house as its an exempted trust.
Mine is a transfer case from EPFO, Pune to Exempted PF trust in Mumbai. The EPFO, Pune has confirmed via online grievance that the amonut has been transffered to the bank account and till date transferred has not been returned back to EPFO, Pune. However, my previous employer ( exempted trust) is NOW non- responsive and initially it was in denial mode that they haven’t received any Tranfer money. Hence, I would like to know if I can file a RTI application against this exempted trust? Or is there any other way to get a concrete proof from EPFO, Pune?
Thanks
I am not sure if you can file the RTI for them or not , but why dont you try filing once ..
I am also stuck with my PF wherein the private PF trust used to operate. I sent RTI to CPFC Bandra and he rejected my RTI stating that the PF trust was exempted trust and was not registered with CPFC. Also that I should now approach Ministry of Finance … I am at a dead end. Dont know how to proceed.
Yes , Private trusts dont come under RTI .. You need to directly follow up with them
I have applied for transfer 2 and half years ago. Till now no response from them inspite of direct visit innumerable times. I was about to file RTI. as per your suggestion, to check the current status before filing RTI,
When I check the current status, it is showing “Claim Form 13 for Transfer to New Account Number: AGAINST Old Member Account has been rejected. Rejection letter is under dispatch/ dispatched to address in your claim”.
How do i proceed.
Padmesh
9344873190
First file an RTI on this , say that what is the status , if its rejected , what is the reason for it ? And what is your next action !
I had filed RTI application with Bangalore office.They had replied within a month with status of my application saying’They have send request to EPFO,Delhi North for confirmation,Once they receive confirmation, they can transfer’. I filed another RTI for EPFO,Delhi North. I received letter from that office saying my PF number is related to EPFO,Delhi South and they have forwarded my request to Delhi South.(Same letter was send to me in cc-Entire letter in Hindi). It is one and half month now and no reply from EPFO,Delhi south office. How do I proceed.
Please share your mail id, I can send you the RTI form and reply received for more details.
Padmesh
What is the main jurisdiction of your EPF ? Is it for transfer ? Wait for some more time , you sometimes get a late reply, I got a reply some days back for one of my RTI queries closely after 50 days .
Manish
Hi Manish,
I submitted RTI for a transfer case (I was working in Pune, shifted to Mumbai now) to the Mumbai EPFO. Today, I have received a letter from CPIO, Mumbai that my application has been forwarded to Pune EPFO as it closely relates to the Pune office. I asked for the current status of the application along with balance amounts of the accounts. Now, would Mumbai office answer the queries relevant to it or the whole RTI will be answered by Pune office? When can i file for First appeal in this case? I smell the govt babus at work, just trying to buy some time.
Regards
Hemant
You should have just asked them if the transfer process is initiated from Mumbai or not , I can see that its done because they forwarded it to Pune now . So now you should file one more RTI to Pune office asking them for it .
Manish
Hi Manish,
Thank you for your reply. Two queries :-
1) According to RTI, CPIO has to highlight portions which are related to the Mumbai office and send the remaining portions only pertaining to Pune office. So, should I expect a reply for those questions? And the letter no way states that the action from their end has been completed. It is an inference you and me can derive but no-one knows the current stage.
2) Would it be appropriate to file another RTI at Pune? Already one has been forwarded to the Pune office..surely no issues right? I will frame questions very carefully this time and ask questions only pertaining to Pune.
Regards
In that case I think you should have asked open ended questions whose answers can clearly give you some idea on the situation , I am suspecting that you asked general questions whose answers have just confused you more . Ask things like
– Is my transfer process complete from Mumbai ?
– Is my EPF transferred from Mumbai to Pune
– When was my EPF transferred to Pune Office and When ?
Manish
Hi Manish,
I am happy to inform you that my transfer case has been successfully concluded after 2 sets of RTI’s at source and destination offices. I have my Annexure K as a response from the source RTI office. It works. DO not give up and continue till the system is fair to everyone.
Cheers,
Hemant
Thats great to know .. 🙂 Thanks for updating !
hai
i sent three RTI to epf mumbai-bandra but i havent still bending to transfer my account to chennai epf due to some dispute in my account what can i do. it is dispute with my employer and epf office goa. But goa epf office sent my epf account epf mumbai with dispute. now my account cannt transfer to chennai epf office. what can i do
pl help me
Did you get any replies to those RTI ? May be you are doing something wrong there ! ..
Hi
Thanks for this blog, it is very informative and useful. I wanted to know the procedure of withdrawal in case pf account is maintaned by company ‘s PF trust. Does R PF office is involved in this case.
Thanks
Regards,
Iqbal
No , I dont think it will come under RTI , check this on : https://www.jagoinvestor.com/forum
Dear Sir/Madame,
After 5months, lot of chasings, my PF application has been rejected stating that ‘Member Reissue application rejected as joint bank A/C not acceptable’.
Is there any clause stating that the application with bank details where the accounts are held in joint is not acceptable for PF withdrawal?
Thanks,
Shri
Yes. One should have a single name account for EPF. Joint accounts are not accepted for EPF. The money belongs to the subscriber. It should go to him only as long as he is alive. Noone else should get a chance to appropriate it.
Hi Mr. Chauhan,
Can you please help me with your inputs?
I applied for transfer from my ex-employer (Bangalore) to my present employer (Delhi). My ex-employer forwarded my details to my present employer on 6th July 2011. As per my present employer, it also sent my details to their PF office (Delhi) quite some time ago. N