How LIC policies works ? Bonus, Premiums, Maturity, Loan !

There are so many LIC policies with different names ? For example – LIC Jeevan Saral , Jeevan Anand , Jeevan Tarang and many more LIC policies. So almost every person in India holds some LIC policies, but majority of them do not know how these LIC policies works ?

How does LIC policy work?

How LIC Policies Work ?

Most of the investors just take things for granted and keep dragging the policies assuming it would be the best thing in their financial life. In this article I will show you how Life Insurance Corporation (LIC) policies work and talk about few aspects like LIC bonus, LIC premiums and different other aspects which will help you in understanding how these policies work.

Moneyback Plans or Non-Moneyback Plans

A lot of LIC policies pay you on a periodic basis like at the end of 4th, 8th and 12th year, and then finally at the end of the maturity period. These policies are Money back policies, the example can be LIC Jeevan Surabhi or LIC Komal Jeevan. A lot people get attracted to these moneyback plans because they get money “many” times in between and it looks attractive to them, but the premiums are generally higher for these policies.

Then there are LIC policies which do not pay you back periodically but only pays you at the end of the maturity period. They are generally termed as normal Endowment plans. Some examples are Jeevan Anand and Jeevan Tarang

LIC Bonus & Additions to your Policy

The biggest confusion I see is generally in Bonus by LIC. One thing which investors in these policies don’t know and don’t care for to find out is that there are different kinds of bonuses in LIC policies and they are calculated differently. Let’s see them one by one.

1. Simple Reversionary Bonuses

Generally when we say “Bonus”, it is this “Simple Reversionary Bonus”, which is declared per thousand of the Sum Assured on annual basis at the end of each financial year. This bonus is declared today, but is paid at the end of maturity period only or on death, whichever is earlier. So for example if you hold a policy of Rs 10,00,000 Sum assured and the bonus for this year is Rs 60 per thousand sum assured, then your bonus amount is Rs 60,000 for this year, but you will only get it at maturity (after many many years) or on death, but by then it’s worth would be much lesser than today (this 60,000 today and 60,000 after 20 yrs).

A very important point to note here is that, if you surrender the policy, you don’t get the actual accrued bonus because it’s the future value, you will only get its reduced amount in today’s term and its very less. Also note that you are eligible to get reduced Accrued Bonus only if your policy has completed 5 premium paying terms. (This thread on our forum discusses Jeevan Anand in good detail)

2) Final Additional Bonus (FAB)

There is another kind of bonus in LIC which is generally called as “FAB” or Final Additional Bonus and it’s paid to those policies which are of a longer duration and has run for more than 15 yrs (The premiums are paid for all 15 yrs). This is generally a token of appreciation for being with the policy for long duration. The FAB is generally not paid for policies which have “Guaranteed Additions” (explained below). Here is an indicative list of FAB.

Final Addition Bonus FAB LIC

3. Loyalty Additions

This is again a bonus which is declared for being loyal to the LIC and completing a longer tenure. Generally it’s declared at the end of the policy, but for some policies it might be applicable after completion of 5 or 10 yrs. For example – In Jeevan Saral, the policy holders will earn such additions after a minimum of ten policy years have been completed.  This is usually an amount declared per thousand of sum assured depending on the corporation’s performance. Loyalty additions are totally non-guaranteed.

4. Guaranteed Additions

For a lot of LIC policies there is a term mentioned like “Guaranteed Additions”. These are assured sums which are given to policyholders for a specific period at start or end of some event along with the sum assured at the end of the term. Like for example, , Jeevan Shree-1 policy provides for the Guaranteed Additions at the rate of Rs. 50/- per thousand Sum Assured for each completed year for first five years of the policy. The Guaranteed Additions are payable along with the Basic Sum Assured at the time of claim.

Surrender Value

Most of the people who buy any Traditional Policies from LIC or any pvt companies’ don’t think a bit about terms and conditions on exiting the policy much before maturity. A general assumption is that they will at least get their paid premiums back with sum interest. I have seen so many cases like that where people are literally shocked to hear that they will get peanuts or nothing from their policy if they choose not to continue the policy. Surrendering of the policy works this way –

You will not get anything back if you stop your policy without paying for 3 years. Almost every traditional policy attains minimum surrender value after the policy has run for 3 yrs.

After 3 yrs, if you surrender your LIC policy, still you will only get a small fraction of your total paid premiums that too excluding first year premiums. So suppose you have a policy which has Sum assured of 10,00,000 for 20 yrs term with Rs 50,000 premium per year. If you have decided to surrender your policy after paying 5 premiums (you paid 2,50,000 in 5 yrs i.e. Rs 50,000 each year), then you will get around 30%-40% of 4 premiums paid (first year premiums are excluded), hence the total would work out to be only Rs 60,000 – Rs 80,000 only + proportionately reduced amount of accrued bonus if any (only because you completed 5 yrs, else you will not get this also).

A very important point to Note : A lot of people do not like to close their LIC policies after paying for 1-2 premiums because they will not get anything back for the 1-2 premiums already paid. They think that they will surrender the policy after completing 3 yrs, so that they will get at least something back. This is total emotional decision and not mathematical, because if you do maths you will see that surrendering the policy after 3 yrs is the worst decision if you have already realised that you should not continue with the policy. For example, if you are paying Rs 10,000 premium per year and completed 2 yrs, you paid Rs 20,000, If you close this policy now, you will lose all money (Rs 20,000), but you can save Rs 10,000 as third premium. If you choose to complete 3 yrs and then surrender, then you have paid Rs 30,000 and you will get back 30% of 2 premiums (first year premium not included), so you get back Rs 7,000 (loss of 23,000 as you paid 30,000 and got back 7,000). Do the math if you completed 1 yr only yourself, its more worst!

Note that surrender value is nothing but your future maturity value reduced to today’s value, so if the maturity value is Rs 10,000 after 20 yrs and if you want it before LIC will pay you the Net present value as per today’s term.

Paid up Policy

A lot of times when you have completed 3 yrs of policy, you might not want to get your money back immediately, in which case you can made your policy paid up (just stop paying premium and it becomes Paid up). When you do this, you can stop paying further premiums but you will get your total premiums paid + accrued bonus any at the end of the maturity period. This might work out better sometimes compared to surrendering if you were going to invest the proceeds in some debt instrument.

What are mortality charges

A lot of agents advertise these policies under the head “Free Insurance Cover“, But all the policies charge premium or charges for providing Insurance cover and it’s called “Mortality Charges”, these are the same charges which are there in Term plans and ULIP’s, but may be in a different way, so nothing is free, some part of premium goes in covering you and rest of it is invested in Debt instruments which can give you assured returns at the end of the maturity.

Loan on LIC Policy

You can also get loans at the time of crisis on your LIC policies, but the maximum loan amount available under the policy is 90% of the Surrender Value of the policy (85% in case of paid up policies) including cash value of bonus. The rate of interest charged on loans is at 9% to be paid half-yearly. Is there any other terms and conditions which you dont understand in your LIC policies ? We can all help you understand it in comments section .

Are you looking for surrendering your LIC Policies ?

By now you must have got a good understanding of your LIC policies and how they work. You can find out the return of your policies using the IRR method taught in this article. If you feel that you want to continue your Policies then well and good. But if you feel that you want to close your policies, do it soon because delaying the decision will cost you a lot in long run. I hope its clear to you how your LIC policy works for you .

Review of Portfolio management softwares in India – MProfit, Perfios, Intuit

Which Portfolio Management Softwares do you use ? Some of the Portfolio Management Softwares in India are MProfit, Perfios, Intuit and Investplus and we will see a detailed review of these portfolio trackers in detail. Portfolio Management & monitoring is an important part of managing a good financial life and if your financial life has different components like Real Estate, Loans, Life Insurance Policies, Mutual funds, stocks and ULIP’s. You can also track your portfolio using Excel and there are lot of templates also, but it can be a tedious task to monitor which part of your financial life is doing well and how much worth do you have at each level using an excel template for Portfolio management. Hence, you can use portfolio management software which suits your needs. There are tons of Free portfolio management softwares which you can start with

Best Portfolio Management Softwares in India

There are many paid as well as free portfolio trackers available in the market which you can use to track and manage your financial data. I really recommend using one of these so that you have all the data at one place and you don’t need to struggle every time to find out your own information. Once we put all the information at one place, we get a clearer and a complete picture, which we don’t get otherwise… We are amazed to see our clients find out that they are worth so much or worth so less once we start discussing with them their financial life data.

Some important features of Portfolio management softwares

Now we will discuss some of the most important aspects of portfolio management softwares in India . These points are top level concerns of customers.

Data Security of Portfolio Management Softwares

A very big concern which most of the people have is where will their financial data be (example) ? Will it be on their local computer or will it is at third-party server and this becomes a big blocking point for them to go for those products which stores their data at their end itself. Here I am not talking about the login & password, but the actual numbers of their financial details. A lot of people don’t want their info to reside on other servers. I personally don’t buy that argument, but that’s a big concern for a lot of people. In a survey done by JagoInvestor last month, the number one concern which people had was data security, ahead of pricing and features.

Regarding the security of login credentials, with the advancement in technology and strong security advancements, it has become virtually 99.999% secure if not 100%. A lot of solutions also give an option for users to link their bank accounts, credit card and other online accounts by providing the passwords. A lot of people do not know how it works internally…

An online money manager will work well only if you provide online access to banking accounts for a one-time setup. This raises security concerns, but here is how it works. The login username and password for individual online banking accounts is used to retrieve read-only data. The ‘transaction password’ for online banking should be different from the ‘login password’ for greater security. You don’t have to reveal your ‘transaction password’. Customers do not have to give any personally identifiable information, making the process safer. Moreover, the account is completely anonymous and requires only a username and password. All the banking accounts are linked to provide consolidated data. In the consolidation process, vendors will have access to your financial records on a read-only basis, but privacy policies of these entities should prevent abuse of information. – source : moneylife

Features provided

I was surprised to see that in our survey, most of the people voted for high features and less on simple features. I personally thought that most of the people will love to have something which provides them less, but rich data. But actually people look for lot of features giving them number of reports and graphs. It’s very important for someone using the software getting more analysis and suggestions on what one should do in their financial life rather than just getting some plain info which they would have done on their own. Most of the software providers give good analysis along with different type of reports and charts which you can download in excel formats.

Easy to use

It’s extremely important that the softwares are easy to use because no one would put a lot of time to feed the data at the start and on ongoing basis. A lot of players provide statement upload facility where you can just upload your Bank Statement, Credit card statement or other demat statements and the software will put out the information and feed it automatically, thus reducing your work. Some softwares like Perfios allow you to link your accounts with them so that they can pull your information and feed it themselves (read only).

Below is a comparison of 4 major Portfolio management software’s in India market and used by thousands of people (you can read their reviews on their website). They are Perfios, mProfit, Investplus and Intuit MoneyManager

Portfolio management softwares in India

Look at the above video done by me and Manish Jain from Mprofit .

Free and Trial versions

I would say you should take advantage of Free and Trial versions of softwares, Like Mprofit gives away a full functional 30 days trial, where as Perfios and Investplus have free versions which are good enough. If you don’t want to use any software, you can manage your finances at very basic level in an excel sheet, but you will have keep updating the values etc from time to time as the situation changes, which is not the case with softwares, as they auto-update the values.

Free tools for Portfolio management

A lot of people don’t go for advanced tools and use free tools available in market which does a good enough job. Tools like money-control tracker and Valueresearchonline tracker are used by lacs of people to track their mutual funds and stock holdings. But they do not give you all the functionalities which fully fledged software’s give to you. Below is the chart explaining Arthamoney, Moneycontrol , Valueresearch and Moneysights portfolio trackers. I hope liked this review of Portfolio management softwares !

Free portfolio management softwares

I would say you should definitely try out some softwares which provide a free version and also explore the free options, there is lot they provide free of cost and all you need is to put your data there. Some other tools which you can use are rediff money (only for stocks and mutual funds, but I like the UI), myirisplus, yodlee and rupeex.com. Please share what more do you look from these softwares and what do you think about the value you get out of these management softwares?

6 Free Portfolio Management Software Licence from Perfios

Update 12 Aug : The 6 winners are selected and this giveaway is not valid now

Perfios is willing to give away 6 free Platinum licences to Jagoinvestor readers for the first year (worth 1499). The first 10 commentators who share this article on their Facebook profile will get those licences (just cc manish at jagoinvestor dot com) (to share it on Facebook, just “like” this article below and put your comment in the box which opens). 

What is CIBIL report ?

What is CIBIL report ? Are you looking to check your credit score and want to know why your loan application was rejected ? Yes, if you are misusing your credit taking capacity, you are being watched at like never before in this country. I am talking about CIBIL here and in this article let me show you how your current behaviour related to credit card, personal loan, home loans are going to affect you in future in a good and bad way. Also see 2 real life cases where a person’s loan application got rejected because of Bad CIBIL report and how they didnt even knew about it ! .

CIBIL Report

What is CIBIL and why you should be concerned ?

CIBIL is Credit Information Bureau of India Limited, which acts like a central repository of credit information in India. As many as 500 different banks and financial institutions are CIBIL’s clients and they report each of their customers (like me and you) actions to them.

So if you take a credit card from ICICI Bank, then ICICI bank reports to CIBIL about it. If you enquire about car loan to HDFC Bank, hold your breath! as even that enquiry is reported to CIBIL, if you can’t pay your EMI for home loan with SBI Bank for a particular month, that also gets reported to CIBIL.

Not just your bad actions, but even your good actions like paying EMI’s on time, paying credit card with punctuality also gets reported with CIBIL. You can see that this way, a history is maintained at CIBIL for each person, which can be good history or bad history depending on the case and this information is very useful for banks to decide if they want to give loan to you in future or not. All the banks are now looking at CIBIL report before taking the decision.

Good and Bad credit Report

CIBIL report is not always bad. It’s an extremely good concept which is now taking shape in India recently. If there are two people A and B and A is a good guy and B is a bad guy, obviously A should get better rates of interest, faster processing, first right to loan. Whereas, guy B should get loan at higher rate of interest (because he is risky) and may be banks can even deny entertaining him at all.

CIBIL gives us the power to build our credit report. So if you become responsible and use your credit effectively and with planning, you can build a good credit history with CIBIL, which will help you in long run. Also note that taking a lot of loans without having the capacity is also a negative thing and that can affect your credit report.

CIBIL Report

I would like to warn you that you have to be super sensitive and careful with credit card and loan repayment, because one small mistake or being lazy in this area can cost you a lot. I would like to share some instances of readers who faced a lot of issues in area of getting loans and finally they checked their CIBIL report and found that they were having bad history

Some bad experiences from readers

Rajaram mentions on our forum how his home loan payment was rejected because of his credit card late payment issues

I had two credit cards one from HDFC and other one from ABN AMRO.

In case of ABN AMRO, salesman told me that if I do purchasing of Rs.1000 within 1.5 month then the annual fees will be waved off. As per his instructions I did purchasing of Rs.1000 within that stipulated time frame. But still I got a bill with annual fees after a month. Hence I complained to the Call center executive gave the brief about my complaint. I also told him that I will be paying the amount which was spent by me and according I paid it through cheque. No further transactions done through the card and subsequently told them that I am returning it to them. But later on bills started coming with annual fees with charges. I again informed the call center executive and told him that I am not going to pay the annual fees which wasn\’t there. Later on bills stopped coming.

In HDFC case I had used this credit card for one year and in one month while paying the dues I dropped my cheque in their drop box 3 days prior to due date. When next month\’s bill received it came with late fee charges. I contacted to call center executive and told him that I had dropped my cheque 3 days in advance then how come this charges. He said it received 2 days later than my due date as was not having any proof I could not prove it. I paid the amount due to me excluding the charges. 2-3 month they sent the later but later on they stopped sending bills.

Above two instance happened to me and had forgotten also. But this year when I applied for Home loan from one of the housing bank then suddenly they put down one condition to give clarification about Credit card issues. They got this information from CIBIL which I was unaware of.

Now I need help to come out of this issue so that my housing loan clearance will be faster.

How Nihal credit report got messed up because he gave his pan card to his friend

One of my friends took a car loan from a nbfc 3 years back and he wanted a reference for this loan (i now realize there is no such thing as a reference for a loan) i obliged and gave him a duplicate copy of my pan card.

For atleast 2 years i have been applying for credit cards and getting rejection letters from all the banks. I finally was fed up with this and decided to get my cibil report and was shocked to see that i was the co-applicant for the car loan my friend had taken 3 years back. He had defaulted on this loan which was reflecting on my cibil report and that being the main reason for me not getting any credit card.

Like i mentioned earlier i had given my friend a copy of my pan card but i had never signed any loan application form, so i followed up with my friend (who still claims that i was supposed to a reference for this loan) and also with the customer care at the NBFC (who i must say were extremely rude). I managed to get the loan application form from the NBFC and i’m a cent percent sure that my signature has been forged on the form. Now my friend (would not want to call him a friend anymore) claims that the person who gave him this loan never told him about me being a co-applicant and he always thought i was only a reference.

How Ganesh faced issue with CIBIL report because of his credit card outstaning bill

Yes, I checked my cibil report last month because i had a suspicion and it was proved right.i had a c/card from icici which for a meagre sum of rs.2000 which i lost track because i was transferred to different city and didnt notice the bill. i also didnt use the c/card at the new place, as i had another card with c/limit of rs.45,000 which i started to use(sbi).

after 7 months, when i tried using the card again, it was getting rejected. when i checked with icici, they said the card is blocked. then only i came to know of the card outstanding, which by this time due to interest, and fine/charges etc had come to about rs.4000. Immediately, it was settled in full and closed the c/card a/c.

Now my cibil report shows “810″ with “history of more than 6 months outstanding 7-12 months back”

i feel cibil should consider the fact that the outstanding was settled in full – including fine/interest/etc…. and give a good score….

so i feel the system is flawed and i am paying a price for it.

my other loans – 2 wheeler loans and other sbi c/card a/cs – was showing prompt payment, either payments finished or under regular payments.

i dont know why i am still given a defaulter score when i have settled in full.

is there any way to reset my score with cibil.. pls advise…

How to get your CIBIL Report Offline

There are two kind of reports which you can get from CIBIL . The basic one is called CIR Report which is nothing but a basic information on how is your credit history and what kind of information is there with CIBIL . This is called CIR report and it costs Rs 142 . This is good enough if you just want to check your status with CIBIL .

Update : Now you can also apply for your CIBIL Report Online

The second thing which you can get from CIBIL is your Credit Score which is called as CIBIL TransUnion Score and ranges from 300 – 900. This is number which scores your credit ranking . A lower number means your credit score is bad and you will be considered as Risky ! . If its 900, you are doing great, Higher the better . The cost of CIBIL TransUnion Score along with your CIR report would be Rs 450 . I would say this is not at all expensive if you can get this vital information at such a cost . If you are facing any rejection for loans or if you fear that your past history can haunt you , then its a good idea to check the CIBIL report each year and find out how does it look like. I have created a step by step procedure for you on how to apply for CIBIL report . Have a look

CIBIL Report

Can you fix the CIBIL report have wrong Information?

A lot of times Banks makes mistakes in Cibil Report and it is mostly manual mistakes or lot of times delay in communicating the details . If you check your CIBIL report and find out any problems , please ask your bank to communicate it to CIBIL as soon as possible . Also if based on your CIBIL report, if you clear some loans , make sure you ask your bank to communicate to CIBIL that you have cleared the liabilities , so that it can get updated in CIBIL report. CIBIL report is your lifeline for future , don’t do anything which makes its dirty, else that will affect you in long run .

What is Expense ratio in Mutual Funds

Do you know how expense ratio can impact the returns on your mutual funds returns ? We often hear that expense ratio of a fund is 2% or 1.8%, but we never put lot of thought to understand its impact on our mutual funds returns and our own wealth! Lets touch this topic today in detail. For simplicity, I will talk about Mutual funds in this article, but expense ratio as a concept is applicable in almost all the management financial products like Mutual funds, UlIP’s , NPS etc

Expense Ratio Mutual Funds

What is expense ratio in Mutual Funds?

Let me first clear out what is expense ratio? As an investor we just buy and sell mutual funds, but in the background there are many expenses which a mutual fund (and even ULIP’s) has to incur. Some of which are; fund management fees, agent commissions, registrar fees, and selling and promoting expenses. As per SEBI regulations, the maximum expense ratio of an equity fund can be 2.5% and for a debt fund, it should not cross 2.25%.

Now who will pay for this? Obviously you have to pay for it and that’s where expense ratio comes into picture. Expense ratio is cut from your investments on daily basis from mutual funds and only after that NAV is published and that’s how you pay expense ratio. For Example, If you have invested Rs 1,00,000 in a mutual fund whose expense ratio is at 2% and suppose your mutual fund saw a growth of 0.5% in a day, which turns out to be Rs 500. You NAV won’t be 1,00,500. Before that you will have to pay 2%/365 (that’s 365th part of 2% as charges, as it’s for 1 day, remember 365 days in a year) and that would be, Rs 5.48. Hence, final value of your investment would be 1,00,000 + 500 – 5.48 = 1,00,494.50 that’s 0.4945% increase and not 0.5% .

So, the next question which will come in your mind is “So, does this small deduction really make a lot of difference?” The answer is Yes & No. If you are looking at 6 months or 1-2 yrs, it’s not much of a concern, you can probably just avoid it and answer is Yes, if you are looking from long-term point of view like 5-10-20 yrs. In that case it’s mostly something which you can put your eye on once.

Expense Ratio – With & Without

Let me first give you a very clear idea about the distinction between two scenarios where there was expense ratio and there was no expense ratio in a mutual fund. Let’s take this example at least to understand the concept.

Suppose there was a mutual fund called “Jagoinvestor-Ninja Fund” (attractive name haan!) which generates a 12% return before expense ratio. Now let’s see how this fund final returns will turn out to be in different expense ratio scenarios like 2% , 1.5% , 1% ,0.5% and 0% (imaginary) . Expense Ratio Mutual Funds

Did you see that? How same funds performance can lead to huge a huge difference depending on expense ratio. In a longer term, you can see how the corpus value reached 29.9 lacs without any expense ratio, but if the expense ratio was 2%, then despite the same performance, the corpus would be reduced to only 16.3 lacs. That’s huge deficit of 45% compared to original corpus. While it’s a little unrealistic to consider 0% expense ratio, because it’s not possible in real life. Let’s see the different between 1% and 2% expense ratio. You can see that with 1% expense ratio the corpus was 22 lacs and with 2%, it was 16 lacs, that’s again huge 20% difference.

Also if you see the chart above, you can see a greed part showcasing how low expense ratio cases achieved the same corpus few years early than the high expense ratio scenario. You can see that with 0.5% expense ratio, 16 lacs was the corpus in 26th year itself which took 30 yrs in case of 2% expense ratio. In the chart below you can see how much the difference in different scenario’s final corpus percentage wise was.

Expense Ratio Mutual Funds

Remember that when you compare returns of mutual funds in long run (video), the calculations are shown after-expenses; hence it might happen that a better fund today is better in returns because its expense ratio was lower than the other one. It might happen that two funds differ in returns to some extent, but don’t vary too much when it comes to their ability to generate returns before the expenses. Naturally the mutual funds which have lower expenses would have better return at the end.

Case Study – HDFC Tax Saver vs Canara Robeco Equity Tax Saver

If you look at Valueresearch website, it has given Canara Robeco Equity Taxsaver fund a 5 star rating, but HDFC Tax saver gets just a 4 star. If you look at both these funds history, both the funds are 15 yrs old funds and if you look at short-term performance of both the funds, you will see how Canara Robeco is doing equally good or better than HDFC Tax Saver. But if you look at long-term performance of both the funds, you will notice a big difference.

While HDFC Taxsaver stands with tall chest giving 31% annual return, Canara Robeco seems to stare the earth with just 20% annual return. Now there can be a lot of reasons for this, but if you look at expense ratio, Canara Robeco has as high as 2.49% expense ratio, where as HDFC tax saver has just 1.91% expense ratio. So it might happen that Canara Robeco these days has to perform better than HDFC Tax saver before expense ratio and only then it’s able to sustain the performance.

As per a small study by moneylife, this phenomenon is true across the category , here are the excerpts : –

Consider the performance of 43 equity diversified funds which have been in existence before 2000. We chose 2000 because we wanted to gauge decadal performance of the funds. Of these 43, we selected the 15 most expensive funds and 15 cheapest. Among the expensive lot, we have only seven outperformers and eight underperformers. Whilst among the cheap funds, we have 12 outperformers and only three underperformers. It is not that the expensive funds have not earned good returns, but a part of their returns has been washed away by their high expense ratio.

For instance, Birla Sun Life Advantage Fund, which is one of the costliest and was launched in February 1995, has given a return of 19% beating its benchmark, BSE Sensex, by a margin of 8%. Reliance Growth, launched in October 1995 (seven months later), has given a return of 28% beating its benchmark, BSE 100, by a huge 16%. Was it the pure stock-picking skill of Reliance? Maybe. But the fact is the Birla Fund has an expense ratio of 2.31% and Reliance Growth Fund has an expense ratio of just 1.79%.

Conclusion

High expense ratio will hurt you in long run, so incase you are choosing two similar looking and similar performing financial products, you should look at their cost structure.

Can you share what you took from this article and how you will apply in your financial life?

Form 15G and 15H – A Detailed Guide

Many people whose income doesn’t fall under the tax slab have mostly invested in products such as FD through which they can earn interest. But can we do anything to make sure that the bank does not deduct TDS on interest earned if our total income is not taxable?

If you all don’t know then let me highlight to you that it is mandatory for banks to deduct TDS on our interest income. If our income is not taxable and we also earn interest from other financial products etc..then we will have to provide Form 15G and 15H to the bank so that bank doesn’t deduct TDS since our income is not taxable.

In this article, I will be discussing all aspects related to Form 15 and 15H.

What is form 15G and 15H?

What are Forms 15G and 15H?

Forms 15G/15H are forms that an individual can submit to ensure that the Tax Deducted at Source (TDS) is not deducted on the interest income if she/he meets the applicable conditions. Always remember, that if an individual wants to claim tax deduction through Form 15G/15H, then the individual must have a Permanent Account Number (PAN).

Form 15G is to be filled by individuals aged below 60 yrs and Form 15H is to be filled by senior citizens aged 60 yrs and above. You can click on this link if you want to download the form directly from the website. If you want to have a look at the form, click on the link below,

Eligibility Criteria to fill these Forms –

a) For Form 15G –

  • An Individual or HUF or trust or any other assessee
  • Only Indian Resident can apply
  • Age should be less than 60 years old
  • Tax calculated on their Total Income should be nil
  • The total interest income for the year should be less than the basic exemption limit of that year

b) For Form 15H –

  • A Resident Indian Individual
  • Age should be 60 yrs or more (senior citizen) during the year for which you are submitting the form
  • Tax calculated on their Total Income should be nil

Who all are not eligible to fill these forms?

The following are not eligible for submission of Form 15G/15H –

  • Company (Private and Public)
  • Partnership Firm
  • Non-Resident Indian (NRI)
  • An Individual whose estimated total income or the aggregate total income exceeds the basic exemption limit.

Can these forms be filled online or just offline?

a) Form 15G (online and offline) –

An individual can choose to submit Form 15G offline or online, depending on the facilities provided by their bank or financier. Firstly they need to check if their bank allows submission of Form 15G online. If this facility is available in their bank, they can simply log on to their internet banking account and fill up the form online. Once you have filled up the form, recheck the details, and hit submit. For your future reference, you can download the submitted form.

The other option is to fill a physical form and submit it to the bank. The forms are available in the Income Tax Portal. You can download the form and get printouts of the same. You can then submit these duly signed documents to the bank or financier where you have the savings accounts. You can also submit it at the post office or the company you work for depending on your requirement.

Currently, there are 2 banks that provide online filling of the forms. If you have an account in the below 2 banks then you log in through internet banking and fill these forms –

b) Form 15H (online and offline) –

You can submit Form 15H online or offline mode. To submit it offline, you need to download the form from the Income Tax portal as discussed above. Once you have completed filling the form, you can submit these forms at your bank or post office or your employer (in the case of Provident fund).

If your bank or financier allows submission of Form 15H online, you can log on to your internet banking and fill up the form. You can submit the form directly using internet banking. For your future reference, you can download the submitted form.

Currently, there are 2 banks that provide online filling of the forms. If you have an account in the below 2 banks then you log in through internet banking and fill these forms –

A detailed guide on how to fill the form through SBI Internet Banking –

Different other scenarios where these forms can be utilized –

a) TDS on EPF withdrawal –

TDS is deducted on EPF balance if it is withdrawn before 5 years of continuous service. If an individual had less than 5 years of service and plans to withdraw their EPF balance of more than Rs.50,000, then they can submit Form 15G or Form15H. However, to fill this form the tax on an individual’s total income including EPF balance withdrawn should be nil.

b) TDS on income from Corporate Bonds –

If an individual holds corporate bonds, then TDS is deducted on them if their income from these bonds exceeds Rs 5,000. They can submit Form 15G or Form 15H to the issuer requesting the non-deduction of TDS.

c) TDS on post office deposits –

Post offices that are digitized also deduct TDS and accept Form 15G or Form 15H, if an individual meets the conditions applicable for submitting them.

d) TDS on Rent –

TDS is deducted on rent exceeding Rs 2.4 lakh annually. If the tax on an individual’s total income is nil, then they can submit Form 15G or Form 15H to request the tenant to not deduct TDS.

e) TDS on Insurance Commission –

TDS is deducted on insurance commission if it exceeds Rs 15000 per financial year. However, insurance agents can submit Form 15G/Form 15H for non-deduction of TDS if the tax on their total income is nil.

FAQs –

i) What will happen if I forget to submit the form on time to the bank?

If you forget to submit these forms on time then the bank will deduct the TDS. However, one can claim the deducted TDS by filing an ITR.

ii) What is the difference between Form 15G and Form 15H?

Both are self-declaration forms that an individual will have to submit to the bank once they open a fixed deposit. While Form 15G is for those who are below 60 years and come under Hindu Undivided Families (HUF), Form 15H is for everyone who is 60 years and above.

iii) Is the form provided by banks one and the same? Or is it different?

The forms which banks provide are a little different from the actual form which is available on the income tax website. However, both type of forms serves the same purpose. You can have a look at the form in the above section.

iv) Can HUF, NRIs submit Form 15G/Form15H?

HUF can submit Form 15G if it meets the conditions but Form 15H is only for individuals. NRIs cannot submit Form 15G or Form 15H. These can only be submitted by resident Indians.

v) Do I need to submit Form 15G/ Form 15H at all the branches of the bank?

Yes, you must submit one at each branch of the bank from which you receive interest income though TDS is deducted only when total interest earned from all branches exceeds Rs 10,000.

vi) Does filing Form 15G/Form15H mean my interest income is not taxable?

Form 15G/Form 15H is only a declaration that no TDS should be deducted on your interest income since the tax on your total income is nil. Interest income from fixed deposits, recurring deposits, and corporate bonds is always taxable.

vii) Will my interest income become tax-free if I submit Form 15G/Form15H?

Interest income from fixed deposits and recurring deposits is taxable. For senior citizens deduction of Rs.50,000 is available under section 80TTB for the interest income from fixed deposits/post office deposits/deposits held in a co-operative society. You should submit this form only if the tax on your total income is zero along with other conditions.

viii) I have submitted Form 15G and Form 15H but I also have taxable income, What should I do?

You must inform your bank that the tax on your total income is not zero. The bank will make changes and deduct TDS accordingly. You should report the entire interest income in your tax return and pay tax on it as applicable.

ix) Do I have to submit this form to the income tax department?

You don’t need to submit these forms directly to the income tax department. Just submit them to the deductor, and they will prepare and submit these forms to the income tax department. At times these forms can also be filled and submitted in the bank.

x) Is there any time limit for submitting these forms?

There is no time limit or due date for submitting Form 15G/15H to the bank. However, it is advisable to submit it at the beginning of the financial year (i.e. Apr 01) or as and when the new deposit is created.

xi) What is the time limit during which these forms are valid?

Forms 15G/15H are valid for one financial year ending on Mar 31 of every year. So, you will have to submit these forms every year if you are eligible. Submitting them as soon as the financial year starts will ensure that no deduction is done on any interest income earned.

xii) Is there any other way NRIs can refrain from TDS deduction as they are not eligible for Form 15G and 15H? 

For any NRI, whose TDS is more than his/her tax liability, such excess tax can be claimed as a refund from the Indian Tax Department (ITD) by filing the Return of Income in the particular Financial Year. Such excess TDS results in loss to NRI due to the time interval between the tax deducted and refund of such excess tax, which may take generally 1 to 2 years.

In order to address the above situation, a procedure has been prescribed under the Act, whereby NRI recipient of income can apply online to ITD (in a prescribed format) along with the relevant supporting documents to issue a Tax Exemption Certificate (TEC) authorizing the payer of income (who deducts tax) to deduct tax at a lower rate or Nil rate, as the case may be.

In the case of NRIs, whose actual tax liability is lower than the rate of tax prescribed under the Act, it is beneficial to obtain a TEC. An NRI should apply for TEC under few situations listed below –

NRI tax

Procedure – The Jurisdictional Assessing Officer (from the International taxation ward of the ITD) of an NRI generally issues a TEC between 2 to 4 weeks from the date of application.

Validity – TEC is normally valid for the period for which such TEC is obtained (i.e. a Financial Year) and for the specific income as stated in the TEC.

Filing Return of Income – NRI who has obtained the TEC has to compulsorily file his Return of Income in India for that Financial Year.

xiii) How can an individual make use of these forms?

These forms can be used only if the tax calculated on the individual’s total income is nil for the financial year. Both forms – Form 15G and Form 15H – have a validity of one financial year. That is why either of them is required to be submitted at least once every financial year. Forms 15G and 15H are basically submitted to save TDS on interest income.

For example, Banks deduct TDS on FDs when interest income is more than Rs 10,000 in a financial year. But if the total income is below the taxable limit, then Form 15G and Form 15H have to be submitted to the bank requesting them not to deduct any TDS on the interest.

Points to Remember –

  • An individual can only submit Form 15G/15H to a bank with a valid PAN, if an individual doesn’t have a valid PAN then, the tax will be deducted at 20%.
  • It is advisable to submit a copy of the PAN card with the cover letter.
  • The individual should make sure he/she receives an acknowledgement while submitting Form 15G/15H. This acknowledgement can be kept for future reference.
  • Acknowledgement of submission of PAN details is useful if a dispute with the bank arises.
  • The individual will need to submit the details of the Form 15G/15H submitted by him/her to other banks as well as the interest income amount mentioned in these forms.
  • As the individual has submitted his/her PAN, the respective assessing officer will have access to all the information submitted by the individual to other banks and will cross check if there is any incorrect information submitted by the individual or not.
  • There is a provision for imprisonment for a minimum of three months if an individual is found to have provided incorrect information in the declaration forms.

A short video on How to Fill these Forms –

a) Form 15G –

b) Form 15H –

Conclusion –

So this was all that I wanted to share in this article. If you have any queries then you can post them in the comments section.

How RBI rate hike impacts your financial life ?

Few days back, there were some changes announced in repo rate and saving bank account interest rates by RBI. Do you want to know how you as an investor would get impacted with the recent changes done in interest rates by RBI? I have seen that a common man always ignores this kind of news because it looks too complicated to him or he can’t understand how his life will be affected by such fluctuations. In this article, I will touch two most important changes that were recently disclosed by RBI and show you in simple manner how it’s directly related to a common man. Note that this article is limited in its scope by looking at the two changes from the point of view of its direct impact on a common man.

Interest rate hike by RBI

Let me quickly go through two main changes which RBI recently changed and explain to you how it impacts common man. Note that this article is limited in its scope of looking at these two changes only from a viewpoint of how a common man is affected directly.

1. Increase in Repo Rate by 0.5% (6.75% to 7.25%)

Repo rate is a rate at which Bank borrows money from RBI, which was increased by 0.5% by RBI and is at 7.25% right now. So now what are the effects of it on a common man? Let’s understand this concept. Banks offer loans like Home loans and Auto loans to someone at an interest rate which is directly proportional to Repo rate (interest rate for common man = repo rate + X %). Now change in repo rate has a direct impact in the interest rates offered to customers for loans by the same or by more magnitude.

Now with the increase of 0.5% in repo rate, this increase will directly be passed to a common man (in case of floating interest rates). In fact some banks like IDBI bank and Yes Bank have already increased their interest rate for loan takers. In fact, Chanda Kochar (Managing Director of ICICI Bank) has already said that this repo rate increase can increase the interest rates for end consumers in the range of 0.5% – 1.0%. So if your interest rate for home loan or Auto loan was 10% p.a, it will now increase to 10.50% at least. This has direct impact on the EMI which you pay for your house.

Let’s see the calculations. If you had bought a house worth 30 lacs @10% interest, 15 yrs tenure, then the EMI would be Rs 32,238. With an increase of 0.5% in interest (10.5%), your EMI will rise to Rs 33,162. That’s an increase of Rs 924 on every EMI. However if the interest rates rise by 1%, in that case your EMI will increase by Rs. 1,860 (calculate yourself). Now imagine if you took the loan at the time of low-interest rates and over the years the interest rates keep rising every quarter, your EMI can shoot up so much that it would make your cash flow very uncomfortable. For example, just last year in Mar 2010, the repo rate was 5%, and then RBI increased it up to 7.25% today. This means there was a 2.25% increase in the last 14 months. You can understand the impact of this on EMI rise over the last 1 yr!

Hence, now you understood how change in repo rate directly impacts a common man, because that change in repo rate is passed on to common man and his EMI’s are affected in the case, the person has opted for floating interest rate option while taking the loan.

Interest rate hike by RBI

2. Increase of saving bank interest from 3.5% to 4% .

The second change which RBI has done is to increase the saving bank interest rate. Till now it was 3.50% which was set long back, many years ago and was never revised. But finally with this year’s credit policy, RBI increases it to 4%. Now you must be thinking how does this impact common man? It’s a good thing for account holders.

Well, in a way it’s a good thing that a person will get higher interest rate on his cash lying in the saving bank account, but let’s see how it impacts a bank. A bank that was paying 3.50% interest on the money will now have to pay 4% interest. That means now, it would directly impact Bank’s profitability. Suddenly a bank which was able to add up that 0.5% interest in its profits has to pay it to customers and that would hit their margins. Bank’s profits will come down by that much amount. This is not a good thing for the bank. That’s a simple reason why you should have expected a big fall in banking stocks and that’s exactly what has happened on the day when this news came in that saving account interest has been raised.

Banking and automobile stocks anchored the broad-based selling. While the hike in saving rates is expected to hit the net income margins of the banks; muted sales numbers in April, high fuel prices, and likely rise in auto loan, diminishing outlook for automobile space.

Among banking stocks, Bank of India, PNB, SBI and Yes Bank tumbled 6.47 per cent, 5.07 per cent, 4.03 per cent and 4.03 per cent, respectively. ICICI Bank and HDFC Bank dropped 2.76 per cent and 2.40 per cent.

Note that around 22% of the money in banking system lies in normal savings bank account and that’s approximately 10 lakhs crore in all the banks. Taking a hit of 0.5% on that kind of money is Rs 5,000 crore. That’s a direct impact of the bank margin of profits. The worst affected will be those banks where saving account ratio (the amount of money lying in bank accounts vs. total money with bank in all forms) is very high. Clearly banks like ICICI bank, SBI bank, Punjab National and HDFC banks are the names I can think because their saving bank deposits stand in range of 30-35%, much higher than the average of 20% across all other banks.

Now how does this impact the common man? Again this move of increasing the interest rates for saving bank is going to affect banks profitability and banks are going to pass this burden to those people who take loans from them, which means those who only put money in bank will stand to gain and the people who took loan will be losing out.

S Raman, cha­irman and managing director of Canara Bank, said, “There was a need to increase savings bank rate. It will lead of cost of funds going up but how much will it affect the margins of banks will depend on the extent of pass through of these rate hikes to consum­ers in terms of len­ding rates. Le­n­ding rates can go up by 50-75 basis points.”

Conclusion

Repo rate fluctuations which come from Banks in the form of increased interest rate for loans will directly impact common man. Knowing this can help an investor in many ways. The biggest benefit a person can from such fluctuations is if he time’s his decisions based on where the interest rates are inclined towards.

Let me know what do you think about this rate hike in repo rate and how is it going to impact your life?

Auto Sweep Account – Enable it in your Saving Bank Account

Do you have a Bank Account? Off-course you do! How much money do you have in your account? 5,000? 20,000? or a few lacs? If you have a lot of cash, lying idle in your Bank Account, and at the same time you don’t want to commit to long-term investment, you need to enable the Auto-Sweep facility in your Savings Bank account. This will make sure you earn good interest on a major part on the cash lying in your Savings account.

Auto Sweep Bank account

What is Auto-Sweep Account ?

“Auto Sweep” is a facility which provides, the combined benefits of a Savings Bank account and Fixed Deposits. Auto-Sweep facility interlinks your saving bank account with a Deposit account and makes sure any extra amount lying in your bank account above a threshold limit is automatically transferred to Fixed deposits and you earn better interest on your money.

How ‘Auto Sweep’ works?

This is how Auto-Sweep works. You define a “threshold limit”, and money up to that limit will be in the form of cash in your savings account and any amount above this, “limit” will automatically be converted into a Fixed Deposit and you will start earning normal FD returns on that part of the money. At any point in time, if you need money more than is lying in your bank account, the money lying in the Fixed Deposits is Reversed-sweeped into your savings account and you can withdraw the amount you wish.

Example

Ajay opens a new Savings Bank account with SBI. He enables Auto-Sweep facility on his savings bank account and defines the threshold limit of Rs 30,000 . Now suppose he has Rs 10,000 lying in the bank, He will be earning normal 3-3.5% interest on this money. After that if he deposits Rs 60,000 in his account, his total balance would be 70,000. But as this is above his “threshold limit”, the extra amount of 40,000 will be converted into a fixed deposit automatically and start earning returns equal to normal Fixed deposits with SBI (for example 8%). This way he always has 30,000 in his account for his daily requirements, and he has 40,000 converted into Fixed deposits which again is available to him incase he requires it.

Now suppose he has to withdraw 10,000 from his account, he will actually withdraw it from the cash lying in saving bank , and his balance will reduce to 20,000. However on the other hand if he wants to withdraw Rs 50,000 . then in that case, as his account balance will be just 30,000, an additional Rs 20,000 will be auto-reversed from his Fixed Deposit and he can withdraw total 50,000 .

Opportunity cost

A lot of us don’t bother about how much idle money is lying in our account and for how long. This happens because we think “I might need it soon, so lets not commit to any investment.” But then, the money keeps lying in the bank for months and months and sometimes even years.

Suppose your account has Rs 1 lac for 1 year, it will earn 3.5% interest on it, which is Rs 3,500 for a year. However if you have auto-sweep enabled in your savings account with threshold limit of Rs 20,000, the additional 80,000 will actually be in form of a fixed deposit and it will earn an interest of 8% (assumption). In this, you will earn 3.5% of 20,000 which turns out to be Rs 700 and 8% of 80,000 which is Rs 6,400 , a total of 7,100 , which is almost 100% more than the first case .

A lot of people have much more than 1 lac in their accounts, not just 1 lac. You can earn some extra returns if you just enable auto-sweep on your saving account . So find out if your bank provides the facility, just do it, and get it right away!

Also note that different banks have different names for this facility. For eg., ICICI Bank calls it ”Auto Sweep” , HDFC Bank calls it “Sweep-In” account , and SBI calls it “Saving Plus.” . Here is a list of other banks and the name by which they call this Auto-Sweep facility (thanks for Gopal Gidwani for the info)

  • IDBI Bank – Sweep-in Savings Account
  • Axis Bank – Encash 24
  • Union Bank – Union Flexi Deposit
  • HDFC Bank – Super Saver Facility
  • Bank of India – BOI Savings Plus Scheme
  • Oriental Bank of Commerce – Flexi Fixed Deposit Scheme
  • State Bank of India – Multi Option Deposit Scheme
  • Allahabad Bank – Flexi-fix Deposit
  • Bank of Maharashtra – Mixie Deposit Scheme
  • Corporation Bank – Money Flex
  • United Bank of India – United Bonanza Savings Scheme

Disadvantages of Auto-Sweep Account

Auto-Sweep has some disadvantages too. In general the interest rates of normal fixed deposit and FDs under Auto-Sweep are same, but some banks charge a penalty if the FD under auto-sweep accounts are broken before some duration like 1 yr and 1 day . But I think that’s fine.  If not 8% , you will at least get 7%, still better than 3.5% .

Some banks are also known to give simple interest on the Auto-sweep Fixed Deposits and not compound interest as in case of normal fixed deposits .

Don’t over do it

While Auto-sweep is a wonderful thing for salaried class people who want to maintain liquidity, as well as want to earn more interest on their unused money, one should not over do it. If you are very sure that the money lying in your account will really not be used for long, better to use the normal Fixed deposit or Debt funds. Only if you are unsure of your money lying in bank and when you might need it, you should be using Auto-Sweep facility.

The way auto-sweep works, it makes it an ideal place to park emergency funds . So if you have kept 6 months of expenses as your emergency fund in Saving Bank, then you can enable auto-sweep facility and set threshold limit as 2-3 months of expenses, so that rest of the money can earn a better interest.

Comments: Did you know about Auto sweep account earlier? Do you think it will be helpful for you and do you plan to enable it?

How Interest rate and Bond prices are related ?

Bond prices go up when interest rates go down! . Have you ever heard that and wondered how is it possible ? What goes behind the scene which makes it happen? It’s important for you to know this, because now a days there are enough financial products which depend on interest rates, for example Debt funds, Fixed Maturity Plans, Infrastructure Bonds and many products. In this article I will show you in simple language how bonds prices and interest rates are related.

Interst rates and Bonds prices relationship

How interest rate and bonds prices are related ?

You must have heard or read often that when Interest rates fall, bond prices go up and when interest rates rise, bond prices go down. Also in many articles you would have read a term “Interest rate Risk”, but always wondered why its is a “risk”.

Let me give you a simple example . Suppose in the market the interest rates are around 10% , Now Ajay lends Rs 1,000 to Robert for 1 yr at the interest rate of 10% , which means Ajay will get Rs 100 as interest next year plus his initial 1,000 of principle , so Ajay will get back total Rs 1,100 at the end of 1 yr. Now suppose they sign a paper where all these terms and conditions are written and we call this paper as “BOND” . Who ever has this bond at the end can go to Robert and get Rs 1,100 by giving them that BOND paper. Now imagine two situations where interest rates move up and down and a third person called Chetan wants to buy the bonds after interest rates has moved. Lets see how bond prices move in both the cases here.

Case 1 : Interest rates go down

Suppose interest rates in market falls to 9% because of government policies or some other reasons (in our country RBI keeps change interest rates).

Which means now if a person lends Rs 1,000 to some one, he can get only 9% as interest. But Ajay has a special bond! , which actually gives 10% return (also called as coupon rate) and not 9%.  He is getting 1% more than what a new bond in market will give. Now if Chetan comes to Ajay and wants to buy this Bond from Ajay, Will Ajay give this bond at 1,000 ? No , This bond is worth more now, because this bond is giving more than what a normal bond in market can provide. What will be price Ajay can charge from Chetan ? It’s very simple maths.

If Chetan goes to market and invests 1,000 , He will get 1,090 at the end of the year because interest rates are at 9% only. So how much should Chetan pay for the bond Ajay is holding as he will get Rs 1,100 with that bond. It’s a simple calculation

=> To get 1,090 at maturity , Chetan has to pay 1,000 in current condition. so ..

=> To get Rs 1 at maturity, Chetan has to pay 1,000/1,090 in current condition.

=> To get Rs 1,110 at maturity, Chetan has to pay 1,100 * 1,000/1,090 today = Rs 1,009.2 (approx).

Which means as Ajay bond is giving 1,100 at the end , Its worth 1009.2 because interest rates moved down ! . So Ajay’s bond commands a premium of Rs 9.2 . You can see that 9% of 1,009.2 is equal to 90.8 and 1009.2 + 90.8 = Rs 1,100 which completes the equation .

Case 2 : Interest rates go up

In the same manner suppose interest rates move up to 12% in market from initial 10% . Now if a person lends Rs 1,000 to someone , he can get 1,120 at the end . Now Ajay’s bond is actually giving less than the new bonds in market . Why will some one pay 1,000 to Ajay to get 1,100 at the maturity , when they can lend the same money in market to get 1,120 at maturity , which is Rs 20 more .

So now if a person has to buy Ajay’s bond they will pay a less price (discount) . Using the same process you saw above you can find out that the new value of bond will be 982.2

=> To get 1,120 at maturity , Chetan has to pay 1,000 in current condition. so ..

=> To get Rs 1 at maturity, Chetan has to pay 1,000/1,120 in current condition.

=> To get Rs 1,110 at maturity, Chetan has to pay 1,100 * 1,000/1,120 today = Rs 982.2 (approx).

Now both the examples I showed you was a very simple example, considering maturity after 1 yr. It was just to give you a brief idea about how interest rates and bond prices are interconnected. However in reality bond pricing is much more complex as maturity can be much more than 1 yr. It can be 5 yrs or 10-15 yrs (SBI bonds). In that case finding a new bond price become a little complex . However the overall funda remains the same . You see what are the future cash payments you can expect from the bond and relate it to the current interest rates and find out the Net present value of the bond in today’s term. We will not go into how the complex formula is arrived at , but I am giving you the formula below which you can use incase you want some time.

Here is the formula which you can use directly for Bonds New price after change in interest rate .

Interest rates and Bonds price change formula

Where

P = New Bond Price

C = Yearly Interest received from the Bond

i = New Interest rate

N = Number of years for bond to mature

M = Maturity value of Bond (generally its same as face value of Bond)

Real Life Example

Recently SBI came up with their Bonds issue. Lets say you invested Rs 1,00,000 in those bonds with maturity of 15 yrs and you are getting 9.95% interest on it and lets say that after 3 months SBI again comes up with another bond issue but this time they are giving interest of only 9% on those bonds. In this case your bonds will become more valuable now as your bonds give more interest that whats going on currently in the market . So now if you want to see your bonds on stock exchange it will quote a higher price which is P in the formula above and lets calculate it. Also lets see what are different variables in this case as per the formula above .

P = This what we have to find .

C = 9950 (9.95% of 1,00,000)

i = 9% (new interest rate)

N = 15

M = 1,00,000 (value you get at the end in maturity)

Now if we use the formula above we will get

P = 9950 * {( 1 + 1.09^15)/.09 } + {1,00,000 / (1.09^15) }

P = 1,07,657.7

Which means you will fetch 7.6% premium in market because of decrease in interest rates . Now you find what will be bond price if the next SBI issue comes with 11% interest ? Tell me in comment section . The example I gave you is based on the formula only and small details are not taken care of which can further affect bond prices in market.

Note that in your life, you make many investments where interest rates come into picture but it’s behind the scenes . I will talk about some of those here .

Infrastructure bonds and other Bonds

You know that we have infrastructure bonds offered in markets , Weather tax-saving or non-tax saving , most of those bonds are going to be traded on stock exchange, so if you bought any of those bonds  in future when interest rates fluctuate , you know 2 things , what is the current interest rates and what is the final maturity value , using just 2 of these factors you can discover what is the current worth of those bonds and incase you want to buy/sell those bonds in stock market , you can command the right price .

Fixed Maturity Plans and other Debt funds

When you invest in Debt funds or Fixed Maturity plans , you give money to mutual funds and the fund manager uses this money to invest in bonds issued by Companies, government and other bodies . Based on the interest rates fluctuations in market they fetch good or poor returns based on their judgement . You as an investor would have more clarity about whats going on behind the scene . Just don’t be an ignorant investor who does not know how things work .

What you should learn from this ?

This article shows you how an investment can become attractive or unattractive based on interest rates, so incase you are planning to buy anything which depends on interest rates , better look at interest rates and study a bit on how it can move in future . If you are planning to buy some bonds today and there is anticipation in markets that interest rates are going to be raised at some time in near future , Your investments today in those bonds will go down in value because interest rates have moved up . At the same time if you feel interest rates will move down , It’s the time to buy those bonds !

This simple information is used by companies and govt to issue bonds , in the recent issue of SBI bonds even though SBI is giving 9.95% interest , if after 5th year they feel that interest rates can move down , they have kept their options open to kick you out of bonds and close the contract. Where as if the interest rates move higher , you can’t do nothing but you are stuck in those bonds for all 10 yrs , unless you choose you get rid of it by selling it on stock markets .

Share your comments about this and don’t forget to forward this article to any of your friends who were always confused about interest rates and bond price relation 🙂 .

4 Home Loan rules most of the investors don’t know about

Can you claim a tax deduction for your under-constructed house? Can you claim tax for the home loan taken from your friend and not from Bank? These are some of the questions which are not generally discussed over and a lot of investors have no idea about actual rules. In the video below I will talk about four not so known rules of home loans. Keep reading. Readers on email can watch the video on this article.

1. Tax deductions for House under-construction

Can you claim tax benefits for home loan taken for under-construction house? A lot of investors assume that they can claim tax deductions and without doing much research, they go ahead with the loan. However, they should know the fact that claiming tax in the case of the under-construction houses is different. You cannot claim the tax deductions for the principal amount for the under-construction house. You need to have possession and certificate of ownership to claim tax under 80C. However, the Interest part is a little different. You can not claim the interest amount unless you get the possession of the house. However, you can always claim the deductions later in 5 equal installments for the next 5 yrs from the end of the financial year of possession.

Example : Suppose Ajay bought a house on loan on 5th June 2010 and he pays total 4 lacs as interest in next 2.5 yrs and gets possession on 7th Nov 2012 . He will be able to claim this 4 lacs Rs in equity installments in the next 5 yrs period , which is 80,000 per year in 2013 – 2017 . However the total limit for exemption will still be 1.5 lacs per year.

2. Selling the House before 5 yrs reverses the tax saved earlier

We think of saving tax, but once the tax is saved for a particular year, it does not mean the story ends here. The tax benefit under sec 80C is allowed for home loans considering the condition that it won’t be sold before 5 yrs from the date of purchase. Read some nice tips for house buying from real buyers

If you sell your house before the expiry of 5 yrs, all the money you saved under sec 80C in earlier years will be deemed to be your income in the year of sale and added to your salary. For example, if you bought the flat in Oct 2010 and in the next 4 yrs you saved 1 lac in tax under sec 80C, then this 1 lac will become your income in the year of sale and will be taxed. However, the interest component once saved is saved and it won’t be reversed.

The tax benefit under section 80c is allowed subject to the condition that house property should not be sold before a period of 5 years. If you sell the house before the expiry of five years from the end of the financial year in which you obtained the possession, the deduction will be discontinued and the entire tax deduction claimed in earlier years under section 80c – for repayment of principal component of the home loan – will be deemed to be your income (in addition to capital gains) in the year in which you sell the property. However, the housing loan interest deduction claimed under section 24(b) won’t be reversed.

3. A loan taken from Friends and Family is eligible for Deductions (Interest)

In case you want to take a loan from your friends, parents or any other person, you can still claim the interest on the loan under sec 24, which is up to 1.5 lacs per year. However you can not claim the principal amount under sec 80C, that’s applicable only if you take up the loan from some bank or financial institution. So you don’t always need to take the loan from Bank. if you can take it from a friend or family, you can still claim tax deductions on the Interest part.

4. 80C is not allowed for loans taken for Extension or Renovation of House

If you take a loan for extension or renovation of your existing house, in that case, you can not claim the principal part under sec 80C, but you will be able to claim interest amount under sec 24, but the limit, in this case, is only up to Rs 30,000 for self-occupied properties. However, for houses which are let-out (a rented or second home which is not occupied), there is no limit for a tax deduction.

Comments? Which one of above 4 facts you didn’t knew about?

Post Office Monthly Income Scheme (POMIS) – How it works and Rules

Are you looking for a safe option to invest your money and earn decent returns? If yes, then I can explore one of the post office schemes. Today, we look at post office monthly income schemes (POMIS) which are not that well-known among urban investors. We often look to fixed deposits and other debt options to park our money or generated monthly income. But the monthly income scheme post office offers myriad possibilities. Let’s explore!

Post Office Monthly Income Account

Post Office Monthly Income Scheme is one of the post office schemes which gives you a guaranteed return on your investment. Anyone who wants to generate a monthly income can open this account and get an assured monthly income. You get an 8% interest per year, which is payable on a per month basis. You will get the interest each month from the date of making the investment, not from the start of the month.

For example Ajay invests Rs 4.5 lacs in the post office monthly income scheme. His interest per year is Rs 36,000 @8%, hence he gets Rs 3,000 per month as income. If you do not withdraw the amount for some month, it would not earn any interest and just lie in the account.

This post office saving scheme does not come under sec 80C so there is no tax-exemption for the amount you invest in this, and interest income is taxable, but there is no TDS cut in this scheme. Read 7 Tax saving Tips

You can deposit the money in the POMIS with cash, demand draft or local cheque. Once you open a monthly income scheme account, you will be issued a scheme certificate and a passbook to record the transactions against the post office MIS scheme.  The maturity period of this scheme is 6 years. You will also be eligible for a 5% bonus if you retain your scheme foe 6 years, so eventually, your overall return including this bonus can turn out to be around 8.9 %.  There is a limit on the amount you can invest in POMIS. It’s limited to Rs 4.5 lacs for a single account and 9 lacs for a joint account. You can have any number of accounts, but within the overall upper limit.  There is no compulsion to take your money out after maturity, you can leave the money in the account, but then it would earn the interest equal to saving bank account for the next 2 years only.

Getting Interest income in your Saving account

You get to withdraw the POMIS income amount by directly going to the Post-office. However, there seems to be a bit of confusion,  if you want the income in your savings bank account. According to per some resources, you can get it credited to your savings bank account,  provided it’s in the same post-office. But elsewhere, some guys confirm that you can provide ECS information at the time of opening the account and get the interest amount created in your Bank account (see the list of cities covered by Post-office). I found the comment below on this website, where a user claims of using ECS.

YES! you can opt for a ECS facility whereby your monthly interest amount will be credited to any savings account of your choice (here HDFC). After you open the POMIS account, you need to fill up the ECS form, attach a blank cheque of your HDFC savings account and you’re all set. You don’t need to open a Savings account at the Post office just for credit of monthly interest.

The information I’ve given here is authentic, because I’m personally using the ECS facility.

Pre-mature Withdrawal from Post-Office monthly Saving Scheme

Even though the maturity period for POMIS is 6 yrs , there is a facility to break it and take your money out. However you can take your money only after 1 year. You have to pay some penalty which is as follows

  • If you break it within 1-3 yrs: 2% penalty on Deposit amount
  • If you break it after 3 yrs: 1% penalty on Deposit amount

Example: If you deposit Rs 1 lac in  POMIS , and want to take money out in 2nd year,  you will have to bear the penalty of 2,000 and you will get back 98,000. If you take money out in 5th year, you get 99,000.

Confusion of returns by mixing POMIS along with RD?

There are some claims which say one can invest the monthly income coming from Post office monthly income scheme into the Post office RD and earn a return of 10.5 %. This at first looks amazing, but its kind of untrue and marketing gimmick. I did a XIRR analysis of the whole cash flows and found out that considering everything , your final and actual return is just 8.77% , which means that when you invest your money in POMIS , direct all the monthly income to an RD and at the end when you get the maturity amount along with the bonus of 5 %, in total you have made an annual return of just 8.77%, which is quite ok considering the safety and conservativeness of the product. But considering the tax to be paid at the end of the tenure, again you might not get great Real Returns! , Remember that the RD comes for the 5 yrs, but it can be extended for 1 more year and it can be made for 6 yrs.

Returns from POMIS + RD

However, the Post office website claims that you earn 10.5% when you put your monthly income into an RD, which is just to attract investors and not give a complete picture. This 10.5% figure is actually only after considering the bonus amount you get at the end, If you remove the Bonus of 5% from the scene , then the return drops to 7.92% . In the below example, you can see that a person who has invested Rs 1,20,000 will get Rs 800 as monthly income , and he gets 72808 as maturity amount from RD, 1,20,000 back as the initial investment and 6,000 as bonus amount .

Scene 1 : If you consider the 800 payment per month in RD for 6 yrs and the maturity amount of 72,806 at the end of 6 yrs , then the returns are just 7.92% (XIRR)

Scene 2 : If you consider scene 1 along with the Bonus amount also , which means you get 72,806 + 6,000 Bonus also = Rs 78,806 , in that case your returns are 10.32% , but its misleading as this bonus is the cost of your 1,20,000 getting stuck at one place for 6 yrs and not an RD feature . So this is not the right way of looking at it . (See chart above)

In case of scene 2 into consideration , then the return from “Only POMIS” is just 8% , but if you consider POMIS + Bonus only then its 8.91% .

Note that this setup operates automatically, you have to set up this once and then no more overseeing. It will happen automatically each month (official link)

Other Features of Post Office Monthly Income Scheme

  • A minor above age 10 years can open an account on his/her own name directly. There is a limit of 3 lacs for guardian and it would not be clubbed with guardian limit (More on Clubbing rules)
  • Non-Resident Indian / HUF cannot open the Account.
  • Interest not withdrawn does not carry any interest.
  • Your POMIS account can be transferred  from one post office to any Post office in India free of cost.
  • The amount deposited in POMIS is exempt from Wealth Tax

Nomination

You have to make the nomination for your Post office monthly Income scheme at the time of applying, however, if you don’t do it at the time of opening, you can also do the nomination later. Incase of the death of the account holder the money will be paid to the nominee.  Read more on nomination here.