16 incredible money saving tips for online shopping

I am sure you must have shopped online very recently. In last 5 yrs, the whole dynamics of shopping has changed, We have more online for most of the things ranging from electronics, clothes, groceries and even movies ticket booking :).

We are fascinated with the discounts and offers we get online. However I am sure even if you know a lot of tips of saving money online, still you might not be exploring its full potential.

tricks for saving money when online shopping in India

Hence, I am going to list down various points and how you can save more money. Detailed description of these points is after this table.

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Tip #1

Install Buyhatke extension

Tip #2

Go a bit extra mile in search for Coupons

Tip #3

Get cashback with specific credit cards and debit cards

Tip #4

Wait for the special days like Diwali and New year

Tip #5

Use Comparison Websites to find the best offer

Tip #6

Set Price Alerts

Tip #7

Leave items in your cart and wait for few days

Tip #8

Use wallet payment methods like paytm, mobikwik and payumoney

Tip #9

Use different emails for Shopping

Tip #10

Get extra cashback using Cashkaro.com

Tip #11

Industries like airlines and hotels give huge discount to there old customers

Tip #12

For used products you can get huge discounts on OLX, Quikr websites

Tip #13

Check prices on website pricebaba.com to know which brand is selling at discounted price or on MRP

Tip #14

To get the best deals keep checking the offer section of all website before you shop

Tip #15

Register on websites where users post great deals & discounts from here and there

Tip #16

Don’t get into the trap

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1. Install Buyhatke extension

There is this website called Buyhatke.com which offers a chrome extension, which shows you the other website where you can get the best deal while you are looking at some product.

You just need to install it in your chrome as extension. This way, you will be able to see the price offered by some other website.

Below you can clearly see, when I went to Snapdeal to find the price of its one of the LED tv, the price it showed me was Rs 17,568. However, the buyhatke extension at the top showed me that the same product is available for Rs 15,990 on Flipkart.

I didn’t had to go anywhere to compare the price. The extension automatically searches the best deal and show it to me. You can also compare the prices of the product by clicking on “Compare Prices” tab on the top right.

buyhatke extention online shopping

However note that the extension does not take into consideration all the coupons and cash back. So take the decision after factoring in all those points.

Another amazing feature of this extension is the historical PRICE changes which you can see on the same page a bit below the product description (automatically it comes when you use the extension). You will be able to see how the price has changed over previous few months. You can see the maximum and minimum and judge if the current price might fall further in coming days or it can do up.

buyhatke price history chart

2. Go a bit extra mile in search for Coupons

This is the most basic thing you need to do when you are buying online. Sellers know that coupons are a great way to excite customers and make a faster sale by making buyers feel that this is the best moment to buy. Given the huge competition in the e-commerce space, every other company wants to give you a great deal somehow. Either the web site from where you are buying something may show you the coupon or you can find it on coupon sites.

On an average, I have always found some of the other kind of coupon which reduces the price by at least 5-10% . Some websites can have a variety of coupons depending on various categories (20 category = 20 different type of coupons). Something like “Buy above Rs 1,999 and get 20% discount” applicable on furniture.

coupons online shopping

Then there are websites like Ebay, which have generic coupons like “Buy above 750 and get 7.5% discount”, These coupons are easily available on the majority of the coupon websites.

I know most of the people who buy online do search for coupons, but I don’t think a lot of them go an extra mile to search for the best coupon and settle with the first one which they get. If you are buying an item with a high price, it’s worth the effort to spend extra 5 min to search for the best coupon available. You can keep applying 3-4 coupons and see which is giving you the best deal.

3. Get cashback with specific credit cards and debit cards

At times, you can get a good cashback or discount on paying from a specific bank credit or debit card. Banks tie up with the website, so that maximum payments go through their channel. This can be for marketing purpose or just to increase the sales of a particular credit or debit card.

Like Amazon may be giving a 10% cashback when you purchase by an SBI debit card or Snapdeal providing an additional 5% cashback on HDFC debit card

debit card online shopping

 

4. Wait for the special days like Diwali and New year

There are extra discounts and offers during Diwali, New year and many other Indian festivals. If you can wait and postpone your shopping, its always recommended to wait for these days, especially Diwali. Its a known fact that people in India buy high ticket items because of the auspicious festival. You might get a much better deal and cash back offers given the cut-throat competition between e-commerce companies in India.

diwali shopping online

Also, there are events like GOSF (great Indian shopping festival) where you can get good deals (not always). Last year, I made the same mistake. I upgraded my TV in the month of Aug and didn’t wait for Diwali and saw the same TV selling at 15-20% extra discount. If you can wait a bit, it’s always better to plan your purchases, especially high ticket purchases.

Another great benefit of waiting for some weeks or month is that you may realize that you actually don’t really need the product and it was a decision in haste to buy the product.

5. Use Comparison Websites to find the best offer

There are various websites like Junglee.com, mysmartprice.com and shopmania.in (and many others) where you can compare the prices of a product on various websites at one single place. You can see their shipping cost, estimated delivery time and also the rating of the seller.

It’s one window from where you can choose the website you want to buy from. At times, there is some mismatch in the main price on the website and the one shown on the comparison website. Below is how it looks like..

compare prices online on junglee

Mysmartprice gives a comprehensive comparison with various details and also the facility to set the price alert at the website level. It also gives section for price history, specification etc in a single page. Here is the snapshot

mysmartprice compare prices online

Scandid and pricebaba are some other good comparison websites you might want to try.

6. Set Price Alerts

At times, you are not in a hurry to buy some product, but you never know when the price of a product was reduced to a level where you become highly interested in purchasing the product. So in that case, you can set a price alert for a particular product and when it touches that price limit, you will be informed about it over an email

For example, if you want to buy a product which costs Rs 5,000 at the moment, but you are very sure that its price will come down to Rs 4700 and that time you would buy it, then you can set the alert and you will be informed about it.

How to set up the price alert?

  • You can use cheapass.in to set the alert. Just paste the url or the product and your email and your price alert will be set up
  • The other way is to use this google docs tool created by Amit Agarwal. It will notify you on email on any drop in prices.
  • You can find the product you want to track on Junglee.com. You will see a “Set price Alert” link just near the product name.

7. Leave items in your cart and wait for few days

This trick might be working only with few websites and not all, but it’s still worth the try. You can first add all your items in the cart and then don’t check out. Just leave the items there in the cart. This is a big issue for e-commerce websites where the customers add the products to the cart, but at the final stage do not make payment and leave.

In technical term, this is called “shopping cart abandonment” and for most of the websites, its one of the biggest pain point, because a huge amount of sales is stuck there in the abandoned cart. As per the business insider report, globally out of every Rs 100 worth of products which is added to cart 71% is abandoned, means more than 2/3rd sales which can potentially happen, do not happen.

So, various companies in order to close that pending sale, will remind you about your cart and ask you to complete the sale. And some of them will often try to lure you with some extra discount with coupons etc. In the best case, you will be able to save a bit more and in the worst case, you won’t save anything extra.

Below is a sample email from pepperfry which was sent to some customer who didn’t complete the sale.

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Note that this trick will mostly work for new customers who have recently created their account, because companies are in the race to acquire new customers to show it to their VC on how they are growing. So do not expect this will well know and big websites where you are already buying from many months or years.

8. Use wallet payment methods like paytm, mobikwik and payumoney

On top of your regular discounts which comes from coupons, you can also get additional discounts if you use the e-wallets these days. If not discount, you will surely get some kind of cash back. The best example, I can provide is from bookmyshow website where you get the extra discount when you use movie tickets.

Pro TIP for Bookmyshow: If you want to book X tickets and each ticket cost is as high as Rs 200-250, book 1 ticket X times, that way you get maximum cashback :). Just that you need to make sure you be fast enough to book all tickets you need.

wallet discounts

9. Use different emails for Shopping

Almost all the companies offer some kind of discounts to new users. A lot of them offer coupons codes on email when you register for the first time. You can see this clearly on Foodpanda or Ola Cabs, where you get huge discount being a new user or get a FREE benefit for the first time.

A lot of companies are now offering the bigger discount if you order things using their mobile app, but you can’t use multiple phone number’s unlike emails, so that’s not easy enough. But if you have many people at home with smartphone’s, you can take this benefit too, for some limited time.

10. Get extra cashback using Cashkaro.com

On top of all the discounts you get, you can also get some cashback if you buy things from cashkaro.com links. Its a website where you have to create an account and then use their links to visit the actual website where you want to buy things.

This way, cashkaro website gets the commission from the seller and they share a part with you and it accumulates there. You can take the money in your bank account via NEFT once it crosses a limit. Below is a simple video which shows you how it works.

You can register on CashKaro using this link

 

5 more tips when buying online (tip number 11-15)

  • There are some industries like airlines and hotels which shows dynamic pricing to their old customers based on their history and location using your cookies. So if you use Incognito mode in the browser, they will not come to know that you are an old user and treat as a new customer.
  • At times, you might want to check websites like Olx and quikr because you can get the same product at a very heavy discount, but for a used product. In some cases, it might fit your requirement and you will save a good amount
  • You might want to try out websites like pricebaba.com which can find out a better deal for you from an offline store. so you can compare prices online and then inquire for prices offline. This would work out for those products, where you are not getting any kind of discount online and its selling near its MRP.
  • You can register on the website called Desidime.com, where real users post great deals and discounts they find here and there. You can also interact, ask questions to other users.

Last and more important tip – Don’t get into the trap (16th)

Now the last and the final point. All the tips which are mentioned above would be helpful and in your interest if you don’t lose control over yourself and be a responsible buying. Only buy things which you really need. These discounts and coupons are just extra benefits.

Don’t let these coupons and discounts become the carrot for you to buy things which you just don’t need. The sad reality is that, even though you feel that coupons are benefitting you, it’s actually helping sellers more.

These coupons and discounts are often funded and sourced by the sellers only to make sure they increase their revenue’s. Yes, in some cases, it will surely benefit the customer’s, but at a higher level these are mainly the marketing tricks of the seller and nothing more than that.

Let me take an example of Foodpanda, If you had to order food from outside, then foodpanda coupons are the added discount you get. But a lot of people are now using foodpanda on those days, when they didn’t had to order from outside, but just used it because there was a discount. Can you see how these deals manipulate your behavior and your way of spending?

Don’t browse for fun

Doing time pass on e-commerce websites is not good for your wallet :). The basic principle of economics is that “Supply creates its own demand” and with the mobile apps retailers are trying to create an ecosystem where you can purchase on just one click. With discounts, they are creating an environment of instant gratification and by giving money back guarantee and replacement guarantee, they are removing the fear for online shopping.

But the at end due to all these factors, people are buying things which they just don’t need at all and creating the big pile of junk at their home. So just make sure you do not browse for fun, because you will surely come up with some reason on why you need that product you just saw.

Let me know what do you think about this article? Also share some more tips which you personally use and you think can be shared with others as well 🙂

7 types of Petrol Pump frauds (its a nation wide scam)

I got cheated at a Petrol Pump yesterday for ₹ 400.

Yesterday I went to a BPCL petrol pump to fill petrol in my car, where it all happened.

I asked the attendant for a “Full Tank”. I generally get out of my car and stand near the person filling it, but I was in a conversation with my friend and trusted the petrol pump as I have been there quite a number of times. However, this time I made a mistake.

The attendant asked me to see the ZERO on the meter and then started filling the petrol. Once the meter started and I thought that everything is fine, he stopped at ₹ 400 and started billing.

I knew this tactic where they say “Oh .. I thought you said ₹ 400”. So I told him to leave it at that point and bill it to me for  ₹ 400 only. I paid the amount and went ahead.

However, my car indicator was still showing the same “51 km” which it was showing before I went to petrol pump and did not go past it. That’s when I realized that I was a victim of another Petrol Pump fraud, which I was unaware of. I already went too far from the petrol pump and had no proof of the incidence that happened.  However, I was surely tricked.

I got back my Rs 400 and offer to terminate the employee

My immediate next was to lodge a complain on BPCL website with all details and I was quite surprised and happy to see that I got a call back from the petrol pump manager within 30 minutes.

He accepted the mistake and offered to pay back the fuel worth ₹ 400 and also terminate the employee if found guilty. I told the manager that I do not wish him to get terminated in this hard times. It will be enough if he can warn that person strictly and take measures to ensure this does not happen again.

Please listen to my 3 min audio recording with Petrol Pump Manager.

Update 

Today I visited the petrol pump again as requested by the petrol pump main manager (he was not present that day when I got scammed). He was quite helpful and courteous in explaining all the things to me. He also got my car filled for Rs 400 petrol so that I am not in loss. Apart from that, he also showed me their automation system which records each and every entry with the time stamp.

I was able to see the entry of Rs 401.50 for the exact time and date. However as I said, the petrol did not reach my car at all. As I said I was not attentive enough that day. I guess the petrol was getting filled in some other vehicle or container (check Fraud #4 below) which I will leave the petrol pump to investigate using their CCTV. I was also offered by petrol pump to do 5 ltr fuel test incase I want to.

Please note that I am not holding BPCL or manager responsible for what happened. After I met the manager, and asked all the questions I had –  I am convinced that it was purely employee mischief in this incident.

Also I want to acknowledge that BPCL was quite fast in resolving my case and the petrol pump manager was also quite prompt to investigate the case.

Is this a new kind of petrol pump scam which got invented?

This got me thinking about the quantum of these kinds of scams and frauds which happen almost every minute in our country in almost all the cities of India, where people get cheated of small amounts like ₹ 50, ₹ 20 or ₹ 500….

99% of the people who get scammed are not even aware of it. Others who are bit aware, they make a scene for 2 minutes, may get a refund and the matter is closed.

Massive “Small Scams” going on across the Petrol Pumps

There are close to 60,000 – 70,000 petrol pumps in our country. Imagine the amount which is looted together by all petrol pumps (leaving those who are clean) even if they do small frauds.

I feel it’s so rampant that it might amount to thousands of crores which is yet to be investigated in detail.

So to make everyone aware, I started digging internet, YouTube and various other platforms like Team-BHP, Quora, etc to check experiences of other people who got cheated and thought of compiling a list of different ways through which petrol pump attendants along with owners/managers in some cases defrauds customers.

So let’s see various frauds one by one ..

Fraud #1 – Short Fueling by distraction

This is most common and widely experienced fraud which can be done quite easily if you are not alert. Here is how it happens;

You ask for petrol worth ₹ 500, and the meter is already at ₹ 100 (the person before you filled it for ₹ 100) . The person tries to show that he is resetting the meter to ZERO, while you are distracted by another person. He does not reset the meter in reality, but starts from ₹ 100 itself and goes till ₹ 500.

You pay ₹ 500, but you get the fuel only worth ₹ 400 only.

If the meter is already set to ZERO, then they use another trick.

So you ask for petrol for ₹ 500, the attendant asks you to check the meter at ZERO and then stats filling the petrol and stops at ₹ 100. When you ask him why he stopped at ₹ 100, he tells you that he heard ₹ 100 only. Then he says that no issues, he will reset and fill another ₹ 400 (will give some crap technical reason why he can’t continue from that same point).

At this point someone from his team distracts you while the attendant starts filling from ₹ 100 onwards itself, when you think that he had reset the meter back to ZERO. Then he goes till ₹ 400 and charges you ₹ 500 (₹ 100 + ₹ 400). You get petrol worth ₹ 400 only, but pay ₹ 500.

In both these tricks, someone distracts you in the name of PUC, cleaning of vehicle, or will just ask you some silly thing and you turn your eyes away from meter.

Here is an image showing how it works

Giving less petrol than you pay for on petrol pumps (frauds and scams)

Unless you make a scene then and there itself, it becomes quite tough to catch them later because by that time the incident in old enough and you also loose the interest in fighting for few hundred rupees.

Fraud #2 – Tweaking fuel-dispensing machines using integrated chips

This is a clear cut fraud from the main owners of the petrol pumps or at manager level, because in this fraud – an integrated chip is installed in the machine itself. This chip makes sure that 3% less oil is filled every time while the meter shows the full amount. So if you ask for ₹ 1000 petrol, everything will look perfect but you will get petrol worth ₹ 970 only.

Even the receipt will be generated for the full amount. This is a small tweak which is done in the machine itself.

Frauds at petrol pump by installing echip in Machine

Imagine 10,000 customers coming to a petrol pump and everyone gets 3% less fuel. How big is that as a scam .. Now multiply that with hundreds of petrol pump who may be doing this.

To read more on this kind of fraud, you can read this article where it’s explained in detail about how the chip works and the methodology

Fraud #3 – Filling the costly version of Oil (Speed / Power) without asking

This is not exactly a fraud, but an unethical thing which most of the petrol pumps do.

They by default start filling the costlier version of the oil (Speed Petrol or Power Petrol) without customer asking for it. Most of the cars or bikes in India run totally fine with the unleaded version of oil which is the default thing. Then there are high octane fuels which can cost 5-10% more than the normal price.

A lot of petrol pumps guide their employees to NOT ASK which version to fill and directly start filling the high performance fuel. And if you catch them and question them, they inform you that it’s your responsibility to clear in start which one you wanted.

You may want to refer to this video from AskCarguru on this topic or read my article

Fraud #4 : Blocking your Mirror and Filling Oil to another Vehicle

This is an advanced level of fraud done by some high risk taker employees of the petrol pumps. This is done to those who like to sit in the comfort of their cars and completely trust the petrol pumps.

In this case, the person filling the petrol pump will show you the meter and set it at ZERO and then come in between of your left mirror and fuel tank. While fueling, he will stop at ₹ 200, ₹ 300, ₹ 500 or some number like that and will give you various reasons for why he stopped, for example, he is coming in 2 min or he has to bring swipe machine or start generator, etc. Once he is back, he will start from the same point.

You will feel everything is normal; however, the trick is that before he left, he was actually filling the oil in some other vehicle (obviously another guy is involved). Your mirror was blocked from seeing what is happening and you were either on a phone call or were listening to music, etc.

I guess this is what happened with me recently as I was in a conversation with my friend and was bit careless (as I had used the same fuel station many times! poor me)

Here is experience of Mr. Rananjay Singh shared on quora

Fraud #5 – Start-Stop Trick to create an air lock (Long Nozzle)

A lot of times, the attendant while filling the oil, does not lock the dispenser nozzle into the tank neck and manually keeps pressing the start and stop button repeatedly. This makes sure that some quantity of oil is locked into the dispensing machine due to the air lock which is created.

As per the studies, 200 ml of oil is saved for every 10 liters of oil. Which means that if you are asking for FULL Tank, you are probably loosing close to 500-750 ml depending on your tank size.

Also if the dispenser nozzle is a long one, a decent amount of oil remains in the nozzle.

Considering thousands of liters of oil sold by a petrol pump every day, it probably saves them dozens of liters of oil, which I and you are paying for.

The solution for this is simple. Make sure the attendant locks the nozzle and does not interrupt till the auto-cutoff point is reached. Also the hosepipe should be raised as high as possible while taking it out of the tank.

Fraud #6 – Resetting the Meter to your final amount in between

This is a trick which shows how innovative people are.

In this trick, suppose you asked the attendant to fill petrol for ₹ 2,000. He shows you ZERO in the meter and starts filling the petrol.

Everything is going fine.. But towards the end when the meter shows around 1600-1700 and you get a feeling that now no one can scam you, some random guy will disturb you for various things like “Card or Cash” or “PUC” or “Lucky Draw” and things like that.

You are already relaxed now because you have been cautious enough from start thinking “what can go wrong now”.

The billing time comes, you check the meter and it shows your final amount of Rs 2,000. You pay the bill and leave.

Congratulations! You are scammed of few hundred rupees.

What happened?

So when the meter was at ₹ 1,700, and you got disturbed and diverted your attention to something else. The guy who was filling the petrol stopped filling the oil, did reset the meter to ₹ 2,000 (while the number of liters did not change).

We generally look at the amount only and not pay much attention to the quantity displayed. Some websites where I researched about this fraud also mentioned that in this kind of unauthorized meter reset, the meter amount blinks which is an indication that it was reset in a wrong manner.

Here is Vivek sharing his experience of a similar incident in our old article comments section

Vivek says:

Here’s another trick used by the pumps. This one in Pune. Mauli Petrol Pump (Baner Road) – HP dealership. You ask the attendant to fill Rs 1000. He asks you to check the Zero (reset) to gain your trust. Thereafter you don’t pay attention till it’s time to pay – that’s a mistake. You should pay attention throughout the process. Here’s why.

Attendant punches in Rs 1000 into the dispenser, asks you to see the Zero and continues filling. Then when it is close to being Rs 1000, say at Rs 800 or so, he pulls a switch to reset the counter – apparently there is a way to “round-off” or reset the amount, so that the amount on the screen is seen as Rs 1000. You feel that Rs 1000 has been filled when in actuality only Rs 800 is filled.

Modus operandi is this. After around half way of fuelling, someone at the pump will distract you for Cash/Card or Car Polish or PUC, etc. It is during this time that the attendant cheats you by pressing the reset switch. This particular pump does not have an electronic receipt system and gives handwritten receipts to hide this fraud – an electronic receipt would have indicated the exact volume of fuel dispensed.

Fraud #7 – “Low Engine Oil or Coolant” Scare

Another fraud is not about the petrol or diesel, but scaring car or bike owners of low engine oil or low coolant and then selling their products. I have seen this multiple times happening at some petrol pumps where they offer to check the engine oil level and refill the water level. I don’t understand why my engine oil is always low only when I reach the petrol pump.

Once I realised that it was just to scare me in order to sell their products, I always tell them that my car is going for the servicing next day.

Here is an incident which was reported at Moneylife where they were cheated into believing that their engine oil was diluted and they were sold 5 packets of servo engine oil, which they got refund for later once they figured out the scam.

This even happens at Shell Petrol pumps which are generally quite famous for no scams (which I agree). Here is an incident which was reported at Team-BHP website by one of their members

Who is involved in these frauds? Employee or Owners?

Majority of the time, it is the attendant who is responsible for the small frauds and cheating which involves few hundred rupees.

They carry out some on their own and some with help of fellow attendants. However, in some cases even the petrol pump incharge/manager might be involved with the attendants in such frauds.

A lot of people say that manager/owner might be involved because the attendents take payments using the cards/paytm/google pay and not cash always. Even in this case the attendents might be able to benefit. This is because the payments happen by both cash and card and at the end of the day, they may adjust the amounts.

Having said that, some of you might think how exactly the entire process is carried out.

To understand this let’s look at a scenario.

At every petrol pump, meter reading on the petrol vending machine is taken at the start and end of the day. Sometimes it’s taken during shift changes. So, the point here to note is that the meter reading of start and end is taken.

Each transaction is not reported one by one. So at the end of the day only thing which is checked is the oil sold and amount collected through Cash and Card. If a fraud is done for Rs 500 and the payment happened by card, the attendant can take the Cash of Rs 500 out of all the cash collected. That’s all

Here is a simple example

Now suppose according to meter reading the sale made for that particular period is ₹ 900 just for understanding the system. There were two buyers who filled the oil, you and me.

You paid through card and I paid through cash. Now you asked for ₹ 500 fuel, but the attendant filled your tank only with ₹ 400 of fuel. Then I came and asked for ₹ 500 fuel and got fuel for entire amount and paid ₹ 500 in cash. Now, at the end of these two transactions. The amount that is with attendant is ₹ 1,000 (₹ 500 card payment slip + ₹ 500 in cash). However, the total fuel sold is only for ₹ 900 (₹ 400 to you + ₹ 500 to me). Hence, he conveniently takes out ₹ 100 cash from his collection and pays ₹ 900 to the petrol pump incharge/manager.

This ₹ 100 will then be distributed among the conspirators as per the agreed percentages.

Note that only in the big frauds which are manipulation of machine it self, the owner or manager might be involved.

Where to complain against Petrol Pump?

The first step is to ask for the “complaint book” of the petrol pump and register your complaint locally. Each Oil company has a complaint register book at every petrol pump station which they look at during audits and inspection. The petrol pump attendant or owner/manager will first try to give you reasons for not having it or will persuade you not to register the complaint. But make sure you do it.

Apart from that you can lodge your complaint online on the oil company website. I did complain on Bharat Petroleum website about this issue

Complaint Online for Petrol Pumps in India

When I checked on internet, many people reported that it’s helpful and actions are taken in few weeks or months. Here is the links which you can use
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Company Complaint Link
HPCL https://www.hindustanpetroleum.com/cms
BPCL https://ebiz.bpc.co.in/Ccsext/CorporateSite/PetrolPumpComplaintRegistration
Indian Oil https://cx.indianoil.in/EPICIOCL/faces/GrievanceMainPage.jspx
Central Complaint Website https://www.pgportal.gov.in/

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Important Precautions to Take

  • If you are in car, always come out and keep a close watch at the meter and how they are filling the petrol
  • Always make sure the meter is reset to ZERO in front of your eyes.
  • Always make sure that the meter shows ZERO while the oil nozzle is entered in the car tank.
  • Always ask for the electronic receipt after the oil is filled. Make sure before filling the petrol you check if there is digital meter or not.
  • Always avoid talking or entertaining anyone in between as far as possible.
  • Make sure you pay at the end of the transaction
  • Incase meter is stopped for any reason, offer to just complete the transaction and fill the petrol at next station or next day.
  • In case you are not satisfied with anything or want to complain – do insist for the complaint book, as the oil companies take the complaint book very seriously.

Please share if you have any experience of getting scammed on Indian petrol pumps..

Jagoinvestor workshop in Bangalore on 2nd Aug (Sun) – Registration opens !

Our investor workshop “Design your financial life” has been a great learning experience for us and for our past participants.  I and Manish always look forward to our live events because we get a chance to see many investors making fresh new commitments to bring a turnaround in their financial life. Wealth creation happens when an investor expands his or her capacity to take actions. Our workshop will help you to expand your action taking capacity; it will fill your financial life with new and empowering actions. you can skip this article and directly register for the workshop

2nd Aug – Jagoinvestor workshop in Bangalore (Sunday)

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If the answer is NO, register and become part of our Bangalore event.  For creating a wonderful financial life the first thing you have to give your financial life, is your time. Here are some pictures from our Mumbai Workshop recently

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We do offline workshops so that we can connect with some of our readers at a deeper level, round the year we write articles, reply to thousands of comments and work with a few hundred investors one on one and in that process we learn, grow and expand as an individual. Workshop gives us an opportunity to share outrageously all the knowledge and experiences that we acquire round the year. The program is an opportunity to get our readers more and more action oriented.

Why you should come for this workshop?

  • You will learn how to improve your financial life with your current set of resources and income.
  • You will learn how to plan for your financial life goals
  • You will interact and learn from other’s people’s financial life
  • You will dedicate one full day to get better with money management
  • You will learn to add new dimensions to your financial life
  • To understand that personal finance can also be fun
  • To give a whole new direction to your financial life

It’s time at add Jagoinvestor workshop to your financial journey

It has been a few years now conducting “Design your financial life” workshop and the experience has been amazing. It is a wonderful space to be in, in which the group learns and starts to fall in love with the process of wealth creation.  We do not teach tricks and tips to build wealth in fact we help you to discover your own personal process of creating wealth.

This time we want more and more couples to participate so that they can get on same page when it comes to personal finance. It is extremely important that husband and wife both take equal interest when it comes to money management. We are offering special discount to those who want to come with their partner. (You can even come with your parents, siblings or friends and can claim the discount)

The workshop we conduct are highly interactive, it has lots of activities and fun exercises which helps you to discover your relationship with money. The sessions are interactive and very easy to grasp for any kind of investor, beginner or advanced. In short there is something for everyone in this workshop.

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  • One day workshop with some personal finance tools like budget sheet, Mutual fund tracker etc
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From the bottom of our heart we invite you to join and participate in Bangalore workshop. Come alone or with your spouse or parents, siblings or friends but see that you do not miss this opportunity. Do not let time or money to get in your way and book your seat at the earliest because we will be taking only 35 participants this time and registration will close after some days.

This workshop is strictly for investors and not for advisors or finance professionals. If you have never participated in any personal finance workshop let this be your first experience.  If you have any questions you can write in the comments section or you can mail us.

5 kind of online frauds, where investors have lost their money

A few months back I got a call from an NGO based in Delhi. They were trying to help a small baby, which was a critical medical condition and needed immediate medical help and they were generating the money from all over India. Even there were social media campaigns around it. The girl talking to me told me its an urgent matter and how as a citizen, my help could mean a lot to the poor child.

various types of online fraud where investors have lost there money

I told her, she can mail me the details, so that I can look at what I can do from my side. After 1 hour, when I typed the NGO name and it turned out to be a big fraud campaign, which was widespread and many people reported their complaint.

But this was just one example. There are so many areas where various kind of frauds are going on all over the country and many uneducated people who do not understand the online world fall for it and lose their money. This is worst than mis-selling at times because in mis-selling you get bad returns or your money is stuck, but in these kinds of frauds you lose all the money forever. So I want to share some tricks used by people to do online frauds and their modus operandi. Here they are –

Fraud #1 – Fake Job Offer

Millions of people are unemployed in India and that has given birth to this job offer scam. In this, you get an email offer from a reputed company which invites you for their interview. You see all kind of numbers, venue, last date etc, and then you see a line mentioning that you need to deposit a security deposit or some basic fees, which will be refunded later.

Given so much of unemployment, a lot of people fall for this trick. The emails look very genuine when you read it, as it contains the company logo, or it might be on the letterhead of the company, but when you dive deeper and check the email id from which it was sent or the website link, you can figure out that something is wrong. Below is one such mail.

Fake job offer

Remember that no company in its senses will ever ask you to deposit any kind of money with them for an interview. Below is an example of how people lose such a big amount in these kinds of fraud offers.

Cybercrime police in Bangalore, India have busted a fraudulent on-line job racket offering nurses jobs in the UK and arrested five persons including two Nigerians. The accused had cheated a nurse to the tune of Rs11 lakh by promising her a job at the Ealing Hospital there.

The nurse had responded to the email job offer at the Ealing hospital in UK by sending her CV and educational certificates. The accused subsequently got in touch with the victim on her telephone and asked her to remit money for anti-terrorism and drug trafficking safety certificates, WHO immunization insurance and skilled immigration permit certificates.

The victim remitted Rs 11,03,500 to different bank accounts as suggested provided by the accused before she realized she had been conned by the gang of fraudsters when she stopped getting responses from the accused.

Fraud #2 – Help a child in an Emergency situation

This is what I was talking about at the start of this article.

Just search for the term “relief India trust scam” and you will see how many people got a call from this so-called NGO claiming to raise money for medical treatment of some needy baby. I got a call myself 2-3 times, and every time I kept investigating the issue to understand how they work. When I enquired about their Registration number, they even gave me that, but then it’s not a big deal. You can always start an NRO with bad intention.

They were extremely pushy and didn’t have a lot of supportive information regarding their claim. There are many other scams going on in the name of helping someone. It can be on helping a poor girl education or for the treatment of a kid, who has no one in the family.

They even go to an extent of telling you that the baby is on the ventilator and the surgery is in the next 30 minutes. You often see this in train’s also where a lady comes with a pamphlet asking for help. I am seeing that same thing from last 30 yrs in sleeper class. Even I see the same thing on some buses.

Coming back to the online version of fraud Here is two such experience from this website

relief india trust scam

I don’t want to paint all the NGO’s with the same brush. There are many good NGO’s also, they are doing good work, but many NGO’s have sprouted up, only to take advantage of these kinds of situations and exploit emotions of people to make money.

Fraud #3 – I am calling from IRDA

This is a well-known scam these days. Almost every investor has some or the other kind of insurance policies, especially from LIC. So these fraudsters give a call to you and ask you about your policy and tell you that they are calling from IRDA and you are eligible for some bonus after many years and in order to get your bonus you will have to either send some money or buy some policy again.

A lot of times, they have some more details about you and your policy and they look genuine at times. And many investors fall for these scams. Here is an advertisement which cautions investor’s about it

You can also listen to some sample audio calls which was recorded by some investors. You can listen to them and see the tricks used by them to cheat and fool investors.

Fraud #4 – Verification Call from Bank using OTP

This might be a new thing for many investors. In this fraud, the target is generally uneducated investors who are not that much educated or who are very new to internet banking. The fraudster poses them as a bank verification officer and gets all the information like debit card number, expiry date, CVV number, and even OTP number while doing the online transaction parallelly.

This recently happened with one of my friend’s father who lives in Patna. His father was not that well versed with internet banking and used to do all his transactions in offline mode. So naturally, he was not aware of how the system works. One day he gets a call which goes like this

Fraudster : Hello , Mr PQR.  I am XYZ calling from SBI bank . Your name is on our records who recently got a debit card. We are seeing some suspicious activity in your account recently, so this is a verification call to make sure that the debit card is in the actual account holder name.

Friends Dad : Oh ok .. What needs to be done to secure my account ?

Fraudster : Please verify your debit card number and the expiry date . It would be written on the card.

Friends Dad : (shares the numbers)

Fraudster : If you check on the back of card, there is a 3 digit number, its called CVV number. Please share it with me. Is it printed there ?

Friends Dad : Yes, its there .. Its 645

Fraudster : Ok , I have initiated the verification, I am now sending a 6 digit code to your registered mobile number, share that with me and then delete the sms. Please dont share it with anyone else

Friends Dad : Yea, I got it just now .. its 745523

Fraudster : Ok great , you will get a sms in sometime informing you about the verification success .. I am now disconnecting the call. Thanks for your time

Friends Dad : Thanks ..

( After 30 seconds …. there comes an sms )

"Dear Customer , Your Ac XXXXXXXXX567 is debited with INR 24,500 on 27th Apr .. Your available balance is INR 34,000"

The real story?

What happened in the background, is that the fraudster tried to make an online transaction on some website, which required a debit card number, expiry, and CVV number. After that, an OTP is required, which comes to the registered mobile number. Note that the modus operandi might deviate a bit, but the point is the same.

The fraudster tries to show himself as a bank verification officer and asks for all the details. I know you and I might quickly judge that this is a fraud call, but millions of people who are from a rural background or from past generations cannot.

Because first, they don’t understand the online world and the new way of banking which has come into the picture in the last 10 yrs and they are sometimes quite afraid of making a mistake. When they are told that their account is compromised and their money is at risk, they take wrong decisions in haste. Below is another real-life example of this kind of fraud

banking fraud using otp

Hence, make sure you never share your card with anyone or share its details like CVV number of ATM pin. A lot of people do it in Restaurants and Petrol pumps. 99.9% of times, nothing happens, but we are talking about that 0.1% times when things can get nasty.

Fraud #5 – Please verify your bank details (Phishing)

It’s a very common kind of fraud in the online world. It’s called Phishing, which aims to steal your sensitive data like username, password or card details. You get an email asking you to verify your account or details, failing which your account will be closed.

When you click on the link, it takes you to the website which looks exactly similar to your bank or card company, you enter your details thinking that it’s your bank website only. But in reality, it’s a fraud website which captures your sensitive information, which later is used to do transactions and you lose the money. Below is a youtube video explaining how it works.

Here is an example of an email which I got on the name of SBI bank.

SBI fake mail

So make sure you do not fall for any kind of emails asking for your sensitive details like the password or PIN number. No bank asks for it ever.

Even I have received fraud call from a guy stating to be RBI Officer. He claimed that my bank account will be closed because it is not linked with my Aadhaar number. Fortunately, I recorded the call because I knew that he was trying to fool me so that he can know my card details. To win my trust he made his senior also talk to me.

How to prevent yourself from getting trapped in these situations? 

From the last 10 yrs, this kind of online frauds has increased because the whole world has moved to the web and all kind of transactions are now online. It’s important to be attentive to your actions and with whom are you interacting.

  1. You will never receive a phone from RBI or Other banks for reasons such an Aadhaar not linked etc.. Please be aware that if there is any recent activity such as if you have deposited some cheque then you might receive a call if bank officials want some information regarding the cheques. Otherwise, no calls from banks for any backdated activity.
  2. Never share your card number, CVV number, OTP etc.. to anyone.
  3. Download Truecaller in your phone. So if you receive a call from an unknown number who is asking your bank account details then you can check the number in Truecaller. Truecaller will tell you if this number is spam or not and if it shows to be spam then block the number.

Have you come across any other kind of online frauds other than listed above?

The dark side of becoming an Entrepreneur – 5 things no one will tell you on face

Have you ever dreamt of leaving your job and starting something on your own? Are you frustrated in your job and don’t see a future? If that’s the case, I am sure that, you must be excited by the thought of “being your own boss” someday. Hence, do read this article fully before you take any final decision.

Last year, when I wrote my own story of how I had quit my job and went full time working on this website, I saw that a lot of people were impressed with my story. Everyone said it was a brave decision. A lot of people could relate to my situation and said that even they are looking forward to quit their jobs sometime in future and jump into entrepreneurship.

job vs entrepreneurship

Pursuing your passion and getting out of your boring corporate job is definitely an amazing experience. It gives you a great satisfaction, sense of achievement and can be extremely rewarding, but only if things go right.

But WAIT .. you know what !!

You probably don’t have much idea of the other side, the darker side and thats what I want you to read in this article.

“Pursuing your passion” is over-hyped

Yes, you heard it right!

I have realized that the positive side of entrepreneurship is often over-hyped. Surely there are many awesome things of being your own boss, but then there are challenges and issues involved, which are buried deep down in the entrepreneurship world, not openly shared or communicated in detail.

When you meet a young entrepreneur who left his well-paying job to pursue his passion, what do you see in his life? I am sure you must be seeing the freedom he has in his life, the exponential growth prospects, no boss to report to and the satisfaction on his face. Right ?

But you never see the problems, issues, challenges and frustration which arises out of being an entrepreneur. I know it very ‘cool’ to leave your job to pursue passion and it has created such a glorious image in the eyes of people, that majority of them want to try it out someday in their life. But remember the old saying …

“The grass looks more, greener on the other side”

side effects of becoming entrepreneur

5 side-effects of being an entrepreneur

I know how amazing it feels when you leave your job to pursue your dream. It’s an awesome feeling. I have done that and been there myself. There is growth prospects, freedom and sense of satisfaction and many other great points. But today we are not going to focus on that because you already know all that. Today, I want to share the darker side. I want to share the challenges and problems which a person faces in his entrepreneurial journey.

I have also contacted few business owners and asked them for their experience and real-life issues they are facing, which you will read below. It would be a great thing to be aware of these challenges, so that in future you can take an informed decision on what to do and which side you should move. So here we go ..

#1 – Be ready with the inconsistent income

The worst nightmare for a salaried person can be an unknown number getting credited in your account every month. When you are into a job, you get a number deposited in your account each month, not less not more. You know the date, you know the amount and you are clear that its going to come for sure.

Things like rent, EMI, household expenses, bills and many other things are already defined and dependent on your salary and for most of the people, they just can’t afford any cut in their salary because their monthly structure will fall like a pack of cards

job income vs business income

When you are into your own work, a big problem is a variable income and this is more true in the starting years. Sometimes you get Rs 40,000 in a month and another month, it can be Rs 1 lac or nothing. Over time, this uncertainty goes down, as your work improves and your foundation gets strong. You slowly move to a more consistent income zone, but still the variability remains in the income.

A real life Experience

Amit Singh, who runs an IT company in Pune shared his real life experience of how he faced cash crunch at one point of time and how he felt about it

You will run out of money and unless you can handle the stress that will follow, you should not attempt to be an entrepreneur.

I will tell you my experience, in the initial days everything was as I had imagined, but then came a time when we had no projects for more then two months we run out of all our saved money, during that time the team I was counting on failed me, we had a very hard and stressful time, but it was ultimately my responsibility and blaming would not have solved the problem.
It took us six months to recover from that two months financial liabilities.

For most of us it’s long working hours and no holidays, for a long time you will not be able to take any vacation and you will be working for average 12-14 hours every day. You should also forget about work life balance, it will only be work.

#2 – You will doubt your decision many times

While a job has its own frustration, working on some venture also comes with its own set of psychological problems. You always wonder if you made the right decision or not, especially if your income is not as per your expectation or if you come across some challenge and that affects your business, you get many sleepless nights wondering if you took the right decision or not.

One of our readers, Rishikesh Sinha shared what he thinks about this point and he shared his thoughts and experience.

Sometimes when I feel low and analyse things around me in terms of monetary and relationships with people, including near and dear ones. I find, entrepreneurship is indeed tough and demanding. I don’t have enough money for disposal, to spend on things that brings happiness or comfort, though momentary it may be. Had I been an employee, atleast I could very well spend on necessary things without blinking an eyelid. But it is not in case of being an entrepreneur, a rupee spend has to be weighed upon. It seems the money I earn is not mine, it is of the customers.

This is about money. In case of relationships even, you find money plays a pivotal role.  Being a brother, being a son, being a neighbour, being a husband, being a friend even, my monetary role — someway or other way — plays its role. And I find it hard to comply with all these roles. I see around, being an employee people have done what they could do the best with themselves. They are happy with no remorse.

Here I find, had I been an employee atleast I could have kept many people happy (if not all) in terms of monetary. People would have looked at me as a successful and resourceful person. But in case of entrepreneurship, since they don’t see money coming out of my pocket, my existence doesn’t count.

One more benefit, that I see being an employee is that he or she becomes the extension of the organisation. This is a great benefit as a person. You are being defined with your organisation. In case of entrepreneurship, it is not the case. You and your business are alone. You are always vulnerable to predators.

If one month goes bad, you start feeling tremors under your feet and it’s really very disturbing fact, because then you extrapolate that one bad month into distant future, and start thinking – “What if the whole year goes like this?”. Your imagination takes you to extreme possibilities and you are devastated. Job has its own challenges and doing your own work also brings its own set of challenges. The image below depicts it quite well.

struggle in job vs business

Only after this has happened to you many times you overcome this feeling and stay relaxed.

#3 – Lack of focus in work

This point is one of my favorite. When I left job, I always thought that now, I am going to be my own boss, no one to disturb me and no one to questions me. I will focus all my energy and time in things which I love.

I was delighted and thought – “WOW – No one to monitor, no deadlines and no one to report to”

What an amazing situation it would be.

However, now after almost 4 yrs, I can assure you that my thinking was wrong. What seemed like a blessing turned out to be a curse. Because there was no one to monitor, and because there were no deadlines, things didn’t happen on time and the productivity went down. I didn’t report to someone, hence there was no one to push me to do things on time, I was my own boss and I always forgave myself for everything wrong I did.

When you are in job, you have a deadline, you have someone above you who will demand things and you are forced to focus on your work. But when you are on your own, its a big challenge to do things on time. The freedom comes at a big cost. I can start my work at 2 in afternoon and unless I have a great discipline, it affects my business. The above points are more true, if you have a home office kind of setup.

Here is what Enterpreneurship article says about this topic

When you don’t have a boss or company tracking your progress, it’s easy to lose focus. Your freedom to do whatever you decide with your time will backfire if you don’t stick to a schedule and plan. Today, things like social media notifications can lead you down time-wasting rabbit holes.

So understand that when you are not into job, its really really tough to follow a 9-5 kind of schedule because it doesn’t exist at all and sometimes you wonder, if a strict timeline and someone yelling on you to be late was a blessing in disguise.

#4 – You can still be frustrated

It’s very much possible that in reality your plans might not workout as per your expectations. You had high energy and motivation when you begin, but then somewhere in between things start settling down and after a while, your whole excitement fizzles away and you get frustrated at your work and different things you have to deal with in life.

Hence, it’s very important that you carefully choose why you want to leave your job and start something on your own. Just because you hate your current job, can’t be a strong reason to quit. I suggest you to find a more stronger reason to quit, because boredom and frustration are part of any kind of work especially if you are not innovating after few years and you get into that cycle again.

A lot of people say “I hate my job” . But that alone cant be always a reason to follow your passion. Here is a comment made by a reader on this topic

But before quitting job just make sure that you are leaving your job because you reallyy passionate abt what you REALLY want to do or start. You simply love it..

It absolutely does not make sense that I hate my current job and that’s why I want to quit it. Always think why you hate your job. It’s because you lack somewhere or you are not having proper skill to do it otherwise you like your job. If that’s the case start working on areas where you are lacking (Comm skills, technical skills etc..)

I am also in Software field and in future my plan is to go in Education field because i think i can really make a difference there but before that i would like to make sure that i am really passionate abt it and i am working on it..

Just because you hate your current job, does not qualify as the reason for doing some business on your own because if your heart is not in that, you will again start hating it. One of my friend Nooresh Merani (appears on CNBC) does exactly that. He left his IT job to become a full time stock trader, not because he hated his job, but because he loved trading 🙂 . Below is his story in his own words ..

The biggest reason for an entrepreneur to become one is to love some work/hobby/ passion for which one is ready to make a lot of sacrifices.

So when i quit an IT job it was the love for being an advisor, trainer , trader and not because i hated my job. Well i loved the 6 months in that job as i was on bench and getting paid for having fun and also run the blog. The worst way to become an entrepreneur is to hate ur prev job.

A lot of entrepreneurs will talk about how when there is no revenue no income and working so much for it was a dark period. It makes all of us feel good as we have taken the other road. There is a tough part when you are doing good business , good income you have to make many more sacrifices as you are a boss 24/7 and not an employee 9-5.

So for example 2007 was equally tough for me in hindsight. As very rarely met my friends, sports reduced , had free tickets to ipl from friends ( he even took his barber ) and i could not make it for even one of the matches. Work was 24/7. Luckily i was single :).

Learnt from that and had a lot of fun in a lean period post 2008 where markets were sideways 😉 . An entrepreneur needs a support staff in his/her family as the toll comes on them for the sacrifices. Entrepreneurship is like another marriage where your wife ( if u have one ) ur mom/dad and friends accept your second wife.

For them to change , sacrifice is tougher.

One standard example – every entrepreneur needs capital/ raw material which can be intellectual, hard cash or money , technology. Also capital requirements are needed to for further growth. What you do not have ? Are you ready to stay on rent ? Are you ready to mortgage property ? Many tough questions.

You will not even get a home loan 🙂 or a car loan easily. I could stay on rent for 8 yrs because of support from parents and then my wife and in laws 🙂 i still do for comfort but have an own flat too.

I always remember these lines even if i plan to work for someone or myself.  The monthly salary is one of the most harmful addictions and the only one which lets you live and not kill.

Nooresh has also done a nice presentation for those who love stock markets and wondering how to become a full time trader

#5 – Your work and life balance goes for a toss

When you get into your own work, the one big issue is that your work and life generally becomes one. Because now you are the boss. You sometimes work from home, you go to office sometimes, you might have few things to work on Sunday’s , early morning and round the clock few times.

Here is a real life experience of one of my entrepreneur friend Harsh Agarwal from his life.

The hardest part of being an entrepreneur is to draw a line between work and personal life. Especially those who started their journey before marriage, they will find it hard to balance the two life. Undoubtedly finding that balance is essential, as soon your personal life will start governing your professional life. Leaving the zone of being workaholic is not going to be an easy task, and here is one quote to help – “Family happiness is the ultimate reward for my hard work”

Success comes with a cost, and sometimes it’s too high. If your friends share the same vision or share the same bandwidth as yours, you will have no problem. If not, get ready to walk alone. Your friends will be supportive, will appreciate your work, but they won’t be there when you need to discuss an important idea or problem. Moreover, success begat loneliness, and when you move ahead in life, it would be harder to have new good friends.

The liberty of leaving your work as it is on friday evening, only to resume it back on monday morning is absent most of the times. You personal life gets affected due to this, because your family wants a separate time from you and they might find it frustrating that you are never completely out of your work.

Should you leave your job, even if you are earning a good enough salary ?

Given the kind of salaries some people are making these days, many a times I feel that one should work for few years even if they are not in love of their job and make some decent money and reach a milestone in their lives before plunging into entrepreneurship.

This is more true for sectors like Software, because I have seen some people making amazing salaries which is just not possible in first few years of struggle when you work on your own and given how important money has become in these times, I think its makes more sense (not always, but in most of the cases) to give some time with focus on making money only and acquire basic things in life first before you plunge to take risk

Example 

One of our clients has just returned from Australia and is around 38 yrs old. He has been making good money from many years, and wanted to open his own restaurant in Pune and this thought was in his mind from the time he started working at age of 27. But the salary was too good to ignore. So he decided that for 10 yrs, he will focus all his energy into making money only and reach a milestone first. Today he has a flat with no EMI, a respectable bank balance and now he thinks, that it’s a better time to take the decision of leaving his job to pursue what he wants.

So if in your case, you need to decide if it makes sense to work a little more years only for the reason of making some more money and reach a situation which will allow you to take the decision of quitting you job more easily. Only you can decide that.

Entrepreneurship can be a very lonely world

I asked Ronak Hindhocha, one of my professional friends to share this views on this topic and what has been his experience and below is what he says

Entrepreneurship is a very lonely world unless you have a co-founder who totally understands your business. If not, it can be very difficult to build a team that can match up to a level where they start knowing what you go through day in and day out.

A lot of times, you’d feel like quitting. You can quit from inside but you can’t show it to the world. With each passing failure (whether big or small) things only get tough. To a point where you start questioning whether you’ve made the correct decision by venturing into the unknown.

For entrepreneurs who are in a product business (which works very differently than a service business) it can be extremely painful especially for first time entrepreneurs. You come across so many unknowns and if you are lucky enough to survive the first 2-3 years you almost get used to the daily grind.

Entrepreneurship takes a toll on your personal life. And yet, you cannot survive without their active support. So, you’ve got to try really hard balancing personal and professional life.  It forces you to bring down your standard of living many notches down. While earlier you’d not think twice before going for a movie or spontaneous shopping spree you’d now find yourself defending why those unnecessary splurges no longer make sense.

Entrepreneurship makes you anti-social over period. You no longer enjoy social gatherings where pointless discussions are a norm. So there comes a point where you stop attending them. Your family/friends start wondering if you really care about them. Sure, you’ll piss of some of them. The true friends will remain but lots of them will stop worrying/caring about you. And the anti-social animal within you won’t care either.

You should also view this video below from Nadia Arain, where she talks about the Dark Side Of Entrepreneurship and her experience.

Having skills does not mean everything

Job and business needs different skills, mindset and dedication. Some people are not born to be employees and some are not born to be employers. It’s totally fine to know which side you belong to and accept that fact.

Neil Patel, one of the most famous internet entrepreneur shares his view about what is required for entrepreneur life

neil patel on entrepreneur life

Strategic vs Being Negative

I know that to some people, all what I am saying will sound a bit pessimistic. But that’s not the case, I am just trying to say that you could time your decision in a better way and with proper planning, which will increase your chances of your success with a huge margin.

There are many examples, where a person left the job to pursue the passion and it didnt work well and after 2-3 yrs of struggle, they had to come back to their jobs and that too at a lower salary, because their career went back by few years.

For example, imagine that a person with 8 yrs of experience today has a 20 lacs per year package in year 2015. The person has a choice

  • Leave your job in 2015
  • Make 1 crore more in next 5 yrs and then leave your job in 2020

There is no right choice here, but only “your choice”. You need to check which option works better for you? It should not happen that in order to chase your dreams, you create a situation where you regret it later and your loved one’s suffer so much, that its beyond repair. Take a responsible decision. Darren Rowse has written a great article on this topic

Doing a job can be equally awesome

I want to just make sure that many people who have started hating their jobs, just understand that there is always some kind of struggle involved even when you are not into jobs. You need to relook at things with different perspective and should appreciate what a job has to offer you. The world needs people who are working in jobs, just like they need entrepreneur. Not everyone can be an entrepreneur and it’s totally fine.

A job, might nor offer the equal exponential growth opportunity like a business, but thats fine. You dont need that always. You should appreciate the consistency of income, good work life balance and an atmosphere where you can grow well in life.

I still miss those days in my past company, where we had team outings, working with colleagues which was kind of another family, going to cafeteria to just waste time with my group (not my team), those free lunches and a complete two days of no work. You can always pursue your dream on the side slowly transforming it into a stronger part of your career and also create an income out of it. Take some inspiration from this example if you want to understand more on what I am saying.

Disclaimer – My intention in this article is only to showcase the side effects of being entrepreneur – and various experiences of others. In no way I am saying that one should not try it, but my only focus is that one should be clear about what all they can expect when they leave their jobs to pursue their passion. I am myself one, and very happy with my decision 🙂

I would like to hear your thoughts on this topic and anything you want to share ?

Attend Jagoinvestor Workshop in Mumbai on 17th May (Sunday)

Last week (on 12th of April) we conducted investor workshop “Design your financial life” in Pune, it was a great learning experience for participants and for us. At the end of workshop it was amazing to see how each participant’s heart got filled right kind of commitment to walk on the path of financial freedom.

Here are is the message from one of the Pune workshop participants to investors community

Hi Manish and Nandish,

First of all let me thank you for sharing very important basic concepts about INVESTMENTS…(Not SAVINGS) during this workshop. Me and my wife both enjoyed this workshop very much and in future we would like to certainly attend another one.

Let me also congratulate both of you. Two of you compliment each other nicely and form a very good team.

The workshop was very simple yet an eye opener for many of us who attended it. We never realised that we were making such huge mistakes in buying certain financial products, life insurance policies etc. which drained our hard earned money so far. We were not giving proper logical thought.

YOU MADE US THINK ABOUT HOW TO DEVELOP RELATIONSHIP WITH MONEY. This is the most important concept which I liked In this workshop. The name JAGO INVESTOR perfectly suits.

I would like to mention here that our education system does not include syllabus on money related matters which is in fact most important matter once we become graduates and start earning. I sincerely appeal to all the parents and young children to attend this workshop once. I am sure this worshop will change their views about investing the money for ever. The more early you start the more better it is.

Thank you once again. It was worth taking the pain for coming all the way from Ahmedabad to Pune to attend this workshop.

KEEP SHARING & SPREADING THE KNOWLEDGE…

Regards.
Abhay

More comments from other participants

This is really great workshop for all age groups, especially for the young students who just started their career. I would say please do come for the workshop as our school system doesn’t teach us importance of financial planing, all they teach us is that “mitochondria is the power house of the cell”. 🙂 These guys are genuinely taking efforts to financially literate the people. The workshop worth more than its fee. – Vivek Ratnaparkhi

The program is really well designed to convey the crux of the personal financial planning. It really acts as eye opener for all participants. The program introduces to basic financial planning concepts in a very easy to understand way – Vijay Kumar

The program gave me a list of actions I need to take for my financial life. It stressed the importance of written goals. Financial freedom was the best take away – Rupali Desai

It enhanced my knowledge on finance. It was an eye-opener program for me. I can manage my finance more clearly now. A small amount of saving can become a large amount in long term. Only thing is we have to put “Effort” – Supriya Singh

It was really good and my knowledge was increased about financial planning. I used to avoid the discussions related to financial life, but now I know the importance of it and can contribute towards it – Rakhi Gulmire

Here are some of the pictures from Pune Workshop

Jagoinvestor Investor pune workshop

Jagoinvestor Investor pune workshop

Jagoinvestor Investor pune workshop

Jagoinvestor Investor pune workshop

Jagoinvestor Investor pune workshop

Video Testimonials of Pune workshop Participants

Opportunity to participate in Mumbai

We invite you to block 17th of May (just one Sunday) so that you can participate in our Mumbai workshop. We are inviting you, because our workshop will add a lot of value to your existing financial life. So far, we have seen and observed that our workshop helps investors to add new and different dimensions to their financial world. In the whole process, you will learn to slow down so that you can examine what’s going on in your financial world. With our help and support, you will be able to define and adopt new set of actions and strategies to create an amazing financial life.

Why we conduct these workshops?

We do offline workshops so that we can connect with some of our readers at a deeper level, round the year we write articles, reply to thousands of comments and work with a few hundred investors one on one and in that process we learn, grow and expand as professionals. Our Workshop gives us an opportunity to share outrageously all the knowledge and experiences that we acquire round the year. The program is an opportunity to get our readers more and more action oriented.

Why you should come for this workshop?

  • You will learn how to improve your financial life with your current set of resources and income.
  • You will learn how to plan for your financial life goals
  • You will interact and learn from other’s people’s financial life
  • You will dedicate one full day to get better with money management
  • You will learn to add new dimensions to your financial life
  • To understand that personal finance can also be fun
  • To give a whole new direction to your financial life

 

Register for the Workshop in Mumbai

Single Ticket Rs 3,800 Buy Single Ticket
Couple Ticket
(Discount of Rs 500)
Rs 7,000 Buy Couple Ticket
Venue and Timing Details9 am – 6 pm (17th May, 2015)
BEST WESTERN HOTEL SAHIL
292,Bellasis Road, Mumbai Central
Opp City Centre Mall

  • The hotel is walking Distance from Mumbai Central Station
  • Lunch and Breakfast is included in the program fees

 

What you get as a participant?

  • You get a FREE Financial Health check-up Report worth Rs 499/-
  • One day workshop with some personal finance tools like budget sheet, Mutual fund tracker etc
  • Invitation to join our inner circle

It’s time at add jagoinvestor workshop to your financial journey

It has been a few years now conducting “Design your financial life” workshop and the experience has been amazing. It is a wonderful space to be in, in which the group learns and starts to fall in love with the overall process of wealth creation. We do not teach tricks and tips to build wealth in fact we help you to discover your own personal process of wealth creation.

This time we want more and more couples to participate so that they can get on same page when it comes to personal finance. It is extremely important that husband and wife both take equal interest when it comes to money management. We are offering special discount to those who want to come with their partner. (You can even come with your parents, siblings or friends and can claim the discount)

The workshop we conduct are highly interactive, it has lots of activities and fun exercises which helps you to discover your relationship with money. The sessions are interactive and very easy to grasp for any kind of investor, beginner or advanced. In short there is something for everyone in this workshop

Listen to workshop Participants who attended in Past

 

 

 

Invitation to join and participate

From the bottom of our heart, we invite you to join and participate in pune workshop. Come alone or with your spouse or parents, siblings or friends but see that you do not miss this opportunity. Do not let time and money to get in your way and book your seat at the earliest because we will be taking only 35 participants this time and registration will close after some days.

This workshop is strictly for investors and not for advisors or finance professionals. If you have never participated in any personal finance workshop let this be your first workshop. If you have already participated in our past workshop we invite you to share the event brochure with your loved ones. If you have any questions you can write in the comments section.

You can also visit our Workshop Page to Register and Get more details

Jagoinvestor Workshop in Pune – 12th April (Sunday)

We are back with our offline workshop. This time it will be held in the city of Pune.

We invite you to block 12th of April (just one Sunday) (mark 12th of April on your calendar) so that you can participate in our one day workshop. We are inviting you because our workshop will add a lot of value to your existing financial life. So far we have seen and observed that our workshop helps investors to add new and different dimensions to their financial world. In the whole process they learn to slow down so that they can examine what’s going on in their financial world. With our help and support they also define and adopt new set of actions and strategies to create an amazing financial life.

jagoinvestor workshop

Why we conduct these workshops?

We do offline workshops so that we can connect with some of our readers at a deeper level, round the year we write articles, reply to thousands of comments and work with a few hundred investors one on one and in that process we learn, grow and expand as professionals. Our Workshop gives us an opportunity to share outrageously all the knowledge and experiences that we acquire round the year. The program is an opportunity to get our readers more and more action oriented.

Why you should come for this workshop?

  • You will learn how to improve your financial life with your current set of resources and income.
  • You will learn how to plan for your financial life goals
  • You will interact and learn from other’s people’s financial life
  • You will dedicate one full day to get better with money management
  • You will learn to add new dimensions to your financial life
  • To understand that personal finance can also be fun
  • To give a whole new direction to your financial life

It’s time at add jagoinvestor workshop to your financial journey

It has been a few years now conducting “Design your financial life” workshop and the experience has been amazing. It is a wonderful space to be in, in which the group learns and starts to fall in love with the process of wealth creation. We do not teach tricks and tips to build wealth in fact we help you to discover your own personal process of creating wealth.

This time we want more and more couples to participate so that they can get on same page when it comes to personal finance. It is extremely important that husband and wife both take equal interest when it comes to money management. We are offering special discount to those who want to come with their partner. (You can even come with your parents, siblings or friends and can claim the discount)

The workshop we conduct are highly interactive, it has lots of activities and fun exercises which helps you to discover your relationship with money. The sessions are interactive and very easy to grasp for any kind of investor, beginner or advanced. In short there is something for everyone in this workshop.

Listen to workshop Participants who attended in Past

 

 

 

Register for the Workshop in Pune

Single Ticket SOLD OUT
Couple Ticket
(Discount of Rs 500)
SOLD OUT

 

What you get as a participant?

  • You get a FREE Financial Health check-up Report worth Rs 499/-
  • One day workshop with some personal finance tools like budget sheet, Mutual fund tracker etc
  • Invitation to join our inner circle

Invitation to join and participate

From the bottom of our heart, we invite you to join and participate in pune workshop. Come alone or with your spouse or parents, siblings or friends but see that you do not miss this opportunity. Do not let time and money to get in your way and book your seat at the earliest because we will be taking only 35 participants this time and registration will close after some days.

This workshop is strictly for investors and not for advisors or finance professionals. If you have never participated in any personal finance workshop let this be your first workshop. If you have any questions you can write in the comments section.

You can also visit our Workshop Page to Register and Get more details

6 money lessons every investor can learn from Pradhan Mantri Jan-Dhan Yojana Posters

I recently was reading about Jan Dhan Yogjna and came across some really nice posters created by their team which is used to educate public in their financial literacy camps.

On looking those posters, I was really touched by its simplicity and how powerful they are to install basic foundation lessons. There were many posters in the PDF file I saw on their website, but I picked 6 posters which I was to show you and teach you some important and foundation lessons on money.

I request you to read what I have written for each of them (don’t skip them) to benefit most from them. I know some of you might feel, these points are not for you, but trust me – many of you need them as much as others.

Lesson  #1 – Essential Expenses comes first before Non-Essential Expenses

financial literacy from Pradhan Mantri Jan-Dhan Yojana

You always have two kind of expenses, essential and nonessential and whatever income you earn should first go into expenses which are extremely essential in nature like food, house, education, Medication etc .

If you see the porter above, it shows you a pot which in its bottom has all the essential things and all the non-essential things come about it. In the similar way, when you are investing or spending your money always ask this question – “Have I taken care of the essential first ?” .

I know this looks too basic thing and its assumed that even a fool knows this, but reality is very different. You will see lots of parents who have spent 30-40 lacs on lavish wedding of their children, who are now struggling to even buy a house.

There are people who have invested their money in land, which is locked and now they are struggling to pay high education fees for their children. There are parents who are saving for their car, even before they have any money accumulated for their kid’s school fees.

Lesson  #2 – Financial Planning is extremely Easy – if you are ready

financial literacy from Pradhan Mantri Jan-Dhan Yojana

The next poster shows the simplicity of financial planning and how easy is it to implement. All you need to do is be ready beforehand and act on requirement. The above poster is created from a poor person’s perspective, but there are big things to learn .

Whatever is your future need, write it and then find out how much you need to invest on a monthly basis and then DO IT . There is no extra ordinary thing done by those investors who always meet their life goals, all they do is properly save with discipline.

Lesson  #3 – Spend, Reduce and Avoid

financial literacy from Pradhan Mantri Jan-Dhan Yojana

You always have 3 categories of expenses in your life. Needs , which needs to be taken care of no matter what you do and you have to spend on those things, no matter what, like education, food, health, medicine. You should make sure you spend on these things and don’t cut on them provided you have the money for these things. Its essentials of life and they are critical for your existence

However there is another category called Wants, which are “great to have” things in life. Things like expensive clothes, entertainment, holidays – which is something where you have to define your limits. You don’t have to cut them out of your life, but always remember how much you need to spend on those things.

You have to REDUCE your spending on these things if possible and then at last there are VICES, which are bad for you, which destroy lives in long run. Smoking, alcohol , gambling etc which give a pleasure in short-term, but should be totally cut out from your life. Most of the people in lower strata of income always remain poor mainly because of these vices.

Lesson  #4 – Debt will destroy you, if you dont handle it properly

financial literacy from Pradhan Mantri Jan-Dhan Yojana

I love this poster most because I know most of the people can relate to it more than other posters. Debt is like sugar – sweet for now, diabetes for future . Millions of people today are in debt cycle which started very small.

When their career started, they bought a bike on EMI , or they swiped their credit card because they need loan for some not so important purpose in life (and many times, very important) and then from that time, till date they are paying the EMI for some of the other purpose.

Availability of easy credit has made them addicted to loans and credit offers. One side when one has to save and grow their money, people in debt cycle are actually doing the reverse.

If you see the image above, you can see how poor people get in debt cycle, the easy availability of credit from sahukar or friend in their village makes sure that they are always in that debt cycle, because anytime they need money, they can get it (at small level) and the interest they pay does not look huge (because it’s in rupees terms) like Take Rs 1000 and give back Rs 2 every day , that is bloody 72% per year. Avoid it if you can

Lesson  #5 – Save money keeping in mind your life cycle needs

financial literacy from Pradhan Mantri Jan-Dhan Yojana

Most of the people live as if life will always be great and they will always see happy days in life just because their current situation is awesome. Bad things happen in life and you can have it too . It’s important that you save for bad days keeping in mind all phases in life.

I came across a 53 yr old person recently who has spent on everything else in life, but has Rs 0 for him today and now when he is free from other responsibilities in life, wondering how will he manage in his old days since only 7 yrs are left before he will be “senior citizen” .

You will see change of jobs, birth of child, death of someone , lowering of income and many other things which will need money that time which brings an important question – “Are you saving minimum 20-30% of your income for your future needs?” . If not , think on this .

Lesson  #6 – Borrow to undertake an activity, which enhances your income

financial literacy from Pradhan Mantri Jan-Dhan Yojana

I want you to stay grounded with that statement for a moment.

– “Borrow to undertake an activity, which enhances your income

No statement can make it simpler than this. If you are taking loan, ask the question (unless its emergency) – “Will it be used for something which can enhance my income or build me a growing asset ?” . If the answer is YES – you can go ahead, else refrain from it.

Most of the people I came across have tons of personal loans, credit card debt, car loan which is not helping them build anything in life, it’s mainly for their consumption . To some level I am not too much against it personally, but when it’s beyond the limits – it really troubles you all the life because you never get a good enough start in your financial life in initial years.

Basic, but foundation lessons

Today’s article was a bit basic in nature, but I would say its very important one which builds foundation of every investor. Despite it looking basic, millions of investors don’t follow it and get into trouble. I want you to send this article to at least 5 people you know are starting their career, or you feel need some foundations in personal finance knowledge.

Would love to know what you think of these lessons and did you love these posters ?

When exactly does PPF account mature ? Answer is not 15 yrs !

When does a PPF account mature ? If you thought that its 15 yrs from the date you started your PPF account, then you are wrong ? Yes – there is a myth around this topic and most of the people do not know how does it actually work.

Its extremely simple to find out when exactly your PPF account matures, and let me show you how to calculate it!

How is PPF maturity date calculated for PPF account ?

The maturity period for PPF account is 15 years from the close of the financial year in which the initial subscription was made. Its that simple. So if you open your PPF account on 4th Nov 2014, this date lies in the financial year 2014-2015 , then the financial year ends on 31st Mar, 2015 .

So the 15 yrs will be calculated from this date (31st Mar, 2015) and the lock in year would be 2015+15 = 2030 . So the exact date would be 1st Apr, 2030 in this case.

ppf maturity calculation

Note that PPF maturity always happens on 1st Apr , and not any random date of a year. Most of the people just add 15 yrs to the date of opening of PPF account to find out the maturity date.

Below you can see a short video which will explain PPF maturity calculation to you. Have a look at it.

So technically your PPF account can mature in 16 yrs in best case, suppose you open your PPF account in the first week of Apr, then your 15 yrs will be calculated from the next year (financial year ends on 31st Mar of the next year).

Jagoinvestor Android App Launched – Read articles on your Mobile

I am happy to share that finally we have launched an android app for the blog and an iOS app is in making and will be launched very soon.

You can do various things on the mobile app like reading the latest articles, checking your portfolio (for clients only), do your mutual funds investments and redemptions. You can also visit our knowledge section and check out some education material or use financial calculators on the app.

Here is the Android app link

jagoinvestor mobile android app

 

I hope this will make life easy for many people. You can download the app on any mobile or tablet which is on android platform. Give give your suggestions and comments on this.