UAN – All you wanted to know about the new EPF system

POSTED BY Jagoinvestor ON February 5, 2015 COMMENTS (862)

EPFO has brought some major changes in the way it works and a new system called UAN (Unique Account Number) is in place now. This UAN is a way to simplifying the process of collecting and managing the provident fund money for employees.

Transfer EPF account online

Background – The pain of the old EPF system

Before I start explaining, Let me go back a bit to help you understand a bit of background. Earlier when a person joined a new job for the first time, he got an EPF account opened by the employer where his provident fund money was deposited. For years, this money got accumulated in that EPF account.

Now when this person left his job and joined some other organization, the new employer again assigned him a new EPF account and started depositing his provident fund money in that account.

This way, if a person changed his job 5 times, he had 5 different EPF account numbers and in case he wanted to withdraw his EPF money, he had to apply at 5 different employers or transfer then one by one to his latest EPF account and this called for a big headache

This way, if a person changed his job at 5 different places, he had 5 EPF accounts and now he had to either withdraw money from his EPF accounts one by one, or they have to transfer the old EPF money to new EPF account.

But that was a big pain!.

Transferring your old EPF money to new EPF meant filling up the forms, then EPFO department sent to your old employer to get their signatures and if they denied or didn’t exist at all (if they closed down), then things would fall apart and now you were stuck with no information, no proper status and no idea what you need to do.

Calling EPFO department or emailing them didn’t work most of the times, and a lot of people just let their old EPF account exist and didn’t do anything, because of the sheer amount of uncertainty and ambiguity. This whole system was raw, old and not friendly for the employees at all.

Things have changed now quite a bit after UAN has been introduced and most of the pain points have been addressed. Let me now share some critical points about UAN or Universal Account Number as it’s called.

What is UAN?

In simple words, UAN is a 12 digit single account number which will be linked to your provided fund money. Now you don’t need to worry about different EPF accounts and then transfer them when you join a new job. Now

each employer will just give you a member id, and all those member ids will be linked with the same UAN. Even the employee’s having EPF under private trusts will be assigned the UAN.

This is the new system and will be applicable now for your current and future employment. Any EPF account you had before this, sadly will not be handled in this system. You will have to manually deal with old EPF accounts, for anything new will now be under UAN. The image below clearly shows the situation now and then.

UAN-vs-EPF

3 Steps of obtaining and activating your UAN?

Below there are steps to be followed if you want to get your UAN and activate it.

Step 1 – Get the UAN from your Employer

The first step is to ask your employer for your UAN. EPFO department has already allotted most of the UAN (4.2 crores as the last count) and communicated it with employers. So most probably your employer must have shared your UAN number to you.

If your employer has not yet shared it with you. You can still validate if your UAN has been issued or not. For that, you need to follow the steps below

Then click on the “Check Status” button and it will show a message saying “UAN is activated” in case it’s already activated by EPFO department. Once you see that message, then check it with your employer. Below screenshot gives you an idea about how to do it.

check UAN allotment status

So like this, you can first verify if your UAN is allocated or not against your EPF. Also, note that UAN is to be allotted to only contributing members whose accounts are active. All the dormant/inactive account is going to get closed.

So if you have 3 EPF account, out of which 2 are old and dormant, please check the status using your current EPF account number which is active.

Step 2 – Activate the UAN

The next step is to activate your UAN. For that, you need to follow the steps below

  • https://uanmembers.epfoservices.in/uan_reg_form.php
  • Enter your UAN, mobile number and EPF account details
  • Get authorization PIN on your mobile
  • Submit PIN and activate your UAN
  • Then generate your login/password and registration is complete.

Activate UAN and Authorization PIN

Step 3 – Update your KYC details

After that, you should log in to UAN portal with your username and password and once you enter the portal, you will see many options like for downloading passbook, downloading UAN card, and editing your details. Apart from that, you will see an option to Edit your KYC Details.

UAN KYC update

Following are the documents which can be used for KYC. You need to upload a scanned copy of any one document

  • National Population Register
  • AADHAR Card
  • Permanent Account Number
  • Bank Account Number
  • Passport
  • Driving License
  • Election Card
  • Ration Card

Below you can see an example of how it looks when you choose PAN as an option.

KYC update UAN

Special Benefits of UAN

Let us now see some of the benefits of UAN compared to the old EPF system. Some changes in UAN were really required from last many years (even decades). Let’s see them one by one.

Benefit #1- Communication directly between employee and EPFO

The best thing about UAN is that now the communication can happen directly with EPFO and Employee. Earlier the employer was in between employee and EPFO for most of the things, especially for withdrawals and transfer of EPF.

Your employer had to sign the documents from their side, now this will not happen. The employer will now act like a depositor in your account and nothing else.

Benefit #2- UAN will remain same throughout the career

The best part is that Universal account number is going to be same throughout your whole career. Each time you change your job, all you need to do is provide your UAN to your new employer and he will tag the member id they create for you to that same UAN.

Note that your overall career moves will be recorded at one place because your UAN is nothing but a central database of all your employers and your past employment, but this will only be visible to the employee and no one else.

Benefit #3- Sms notifications when your Provident Fund is deposited

Now each month, when your employer deposits your provident fund money, you will directly get an SMS notification informing you about it. This is really great because now you know if your employer is actually depositing the money with EPFO or not.

This will be exactly like you get notifications from your bank when your account is credited with salary. This is especially nice because in past there have been cases where the employer didn’t deposit the EPF money for years and months and employee came to know about it much later and then they had to lose their hard earned money

Benefit #4- Update your KYC at one place

Now you just have one single window where you can update your address, mobile, email and other KYC details in case they change in future. A lot of issues happened in the earlier model where the same person had a different address and contact details with different employers and that created issues while withdrawal and transfers.

Benefit #5- Transfer of your Provident fund money automatically

Now the transfer of EPF is very simple. When you join a new job, you just need to furnish your UAN number to your employer and automatically within 1-2 months, your provident fund money will be transferred. In a way, it just has to get linked to your UAN

Benefit #6- Extremely friendly process for EPF withdrawal or Applying for Loan

This is still in process and can take up more than 6 months to a year, but once it’s complete, then the process for withdrawal and loan will be super fast and simple. You might not be aware that you can withdraw from your EPF for important events in life like marriage, buying a house, or medical emergency subject to some rules and restrictions.

Once UAN system is fully functional, you then just need to fill up a form and provide your fingerprint to a biometric reader and once things are matched, the amount will be transferred to your registered bank account within an hour.

This used to take months and years earlier. I am not sure if in reality, it would be as simple and fast, as they claim – but still, things are bound to get simple and fast.

Conclusion

Make sure your UAN is activated and you have uploaded the KYC document. If you have any other queries regarding UAN, please share it with us and we will try to find out the answer.

862 replies on this article “UAN – All you wanted to know about the new EPF system”

  1. Lingam says:

    I transferred my EPF amt from my first employer to second employer. But EPS amt was not transferred. let me know what need to do to transfer the EPS amt

    1. Jagoinvestor says:

      Did you also fill EPS form for transfer?

  2. Aniket says:

    Hello sir suppose i m wrokig with a compny “A” and i hv my UAN numb n i withdraw my pf amt also,now i change the job to company “B” and i dont want to show them my previous exp so wht should i need to do ?,and if thy creat new UAN so wht i need to do to deactivate a 1st UAN .

    1. If you declare the first UAN, then your employer will be able to find out about your past employement

    2. Ayushman Kumar says:

      Well, if your previous employer used your Aadhar to create a PF account and UAN, and UAN is linked to Aadhaar, then I’m sorry to say man, that you can’t deny having a previous job and previous EPF a/c. Because if you don’t mention previous employer in CV, don’t tell the interviewer of new company about previous job, don’t submit UAN during the Onboarding process, and submit Aadhaar, PAN, Bank a/c details, then your new employer will use ur Aadhaar to create new UAN. The moment your new employer saves these details whike registering you, using the EPFO Employers’ Portal, that portal will flash an error message showing existing UAN, and your new employer can use your UAN to see your previous employer, and can demand explanation from you.

      It was possible to hide your previous employment and EPF a/c when the old EPF system was in force(before 2014). Before 2014, every employer opened different a/c for each member, and they weren’t linked to each other, making it easier for you to deny previous employment and PF a/c, because the new company would open a new EPF a/c for u and deposit PF contributions in that a/c.

  3. R? Karma says:

    Actually recently i changed my contact number in my bank account… which number is different from my epf account’s contact number.

    1. Glad to know that R? Karma ..

  4. R.Karma says:

    Hi, is it mandatory to be same contact number in both my epf account and bank account to withdrawal my pf amount?

    1. Yes, its always the best thing

  5. anita says:

    i have left the organization and at that time there was no adhaar card now they are asking for it and i have uploaded it in my uan portal but my employer is not approved it. how can i get my withdrwal

    1. Hi anita

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  6. AshwiniJ says:

    Hi… Have withdrawn the money from my previous PF account. Is UAN number will remain same or will it change?

    1. UAN will always be same

  7. Veena says:

    Hello Manish I have applied PF Withdrawal through normal forms (10c & 19) but meanwhile company signing authority is changed & new signing authority’s digital signature is not yet uploaded because of which my withdrawal form is pending with employer only from last 3 months.
    I also wanted to fill UAN based withdrawal forms where employer signature is not required but the problem is i have closed my bank account which was uploaded in UAN Portal & approved by my employer & i dont see any where Bank account filling option in UAN based Forms . Is there a solution to this issue ?

    1. Hi Veena

      Thanks for asking your question. However, I dont think I am eligible to answer your query as its either out of scope of my knowledge or its not related to money matter directly

      Manish

  8. vikas singhai says:

    sir, I have leave the previous employer and join the new organization and i have withdrawal my EPF amount. I can’t withdraw the pension fund due to service period was more than 10 years from last employer.

    so i have 2 query :-

    So my new PF a/c NO will be automatically added with UAN
    what will happened for my Employee pension fund.

    Please elaborate with details

    1. Hi vikas singhai

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  9. Shereen says:

    I have done the needed formalities. Now my previous company needs to update the KYC status in UAN. But the finance guy has kept delaying this saying the PF website is not working, we cannot do anything & things like this. I am tired of following up. Is there a plan B?

    1. Hi Shereen

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  10. suhas says:

    I have withdrawn my PF amount..will same UAN continues or it will be deleted

    1. It will still be there I guess

  11. BJM says:

    HI,

    I am BJM,I have joined new company recently i gave my UAN number to second employer . Now both PF accounts are linked to same UAN number.
    In UAN portal my date of joining and exit has not been mentioned by previous employer..wat do I need to update that?
    can i withdraw my previous PF amount??If so,please help me out how do I proceed?

    1. I am not clear of this at this level.

  12. Rajat Chadha says:

    Hi ,
    I have my UAN no activated from my old company , also all my KYC like aadhar and pan and a/c no. are all Approved by employer. Now i have joined a new company. I need to withdraw my old PF for my old company, if I provide my new company the UAN number , will I still be able to withdraw pf amount of the old company or not. Also what would be the taxes on it as my tenure was 3 years only.

    1. it will be added to your income and taxed accordingly !

  13. himanshu verma says:

    Hello Mr. Chauhan, I have recently changed my job and provided my UAN to new employer. They are unable to link my new account with UAN and transfer. My DOB doesn’t match, said by employer. When I opened my UAN account, I found father’s name, DOB, DOJ and DOE were not mentioned. Previous employer is not ready to listen. Please suggest.

    1. Hi himanshu verma

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  14. mady says:

    I get uan from.previous company & activated (present no pf contribution)
    can i link /.view the old pf accounts status with uan facility

    1. Jagoinvestor Admin says:

      Hi mady

      Yes , you can do that only you need to get transfer claim form approved by your employer or previous employer.

  15. DhrubaDutta says:

    Hi,

    I joined new organization recently and my UAN activated with me previous org. Now I just received a sms alert saying that PF transfer claim Form 13 submitted and in under process. But I did not initiate any such thing.
    Can you please explain me whether this is happened due to UAN has two member id now and the new member id will have the amount from old member id (i.e PF account) and this is automatic process.

    Otherwise if it is any fraudulent case then what action I need to take?

    Regards,
    Dhruba Dutta

    1. Jagoinvestor Admin says:

      Hi DhrubaDutta

      I understand your worry . But there is no issue . As you have mentioned you have changed your organisation. So when you change your organisation your epf account get transferred to your new organisation. That is only done to keep your fund in one account only. It Not a fraudulent activity in your account.

  16. Senthil says:

    Hi i had applied for my withdrawal after 6o days of my resignation and recently joined a new company. When i call PF office i have been told that the amount has been settled to the pf office account linked to my UAN with my new org. I had not asked or initiated for transfer of my PF with my new PF. Could you let me know what exactly the issue here is and how to proceed.

    Regards

    1. Hi Senthil

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  17. prafulla says:

    Hello Sir
    I was planning to withdraw PF using the UAN. I have PAN number, account number has been verified by employer in the UAN website but i dont have Aadhar card. So i was wondering if it is mandatory to have Aadhar card for PF withdrawal using the form 19, 10-c and form -31.

    Looking forward to hear from you.
    Thanks
    Prafulla

    1. No , if you are withdrawing offline, adhaar is not mandatory

  18. Sowmya says:

    Hi, I transferred my PF amount from previous two employers to the current PF account of current company using UAN. But now I am looking to withdraw PF amount for my marriage. Since UAN is linked to current PF account, do I need to get approval from current employer for PF withdrawal or directly I can claim for it without seeking their approval?

    1. You can claim it directly, but the approval process will happen by EPFO (not employer)

  19. vinod says:

    Is DOE or date of leaving is neccessory to update for withdraw the EPF amount.
    Or member can update DOE? If yes then how?

    Plz help me about this topic

    1. Hi vinod

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  20. Ganesh says:

    Is all KYC documents needs to be linked with UAN no?? or Bank A/c no. is sufficient. Secondly can I withdraw EPF without Aadhar card as it’s not linked by previous employer

    1. Yes its mandatory to like with UAN .

      Yes, you can withdraw EPF without Aadhar ..

  21. M says:

    Hi,

    Mine is bit confusing case for me. Lets call my Ex employer A and current employer B.

    So I was working with employer A earlier. I got my first EPF account of my career with employer A, I worked there from Dec 2014 to Jan 2016. Employer A never bothered to generate UAN number for me while I was there.

    In April 2016 I joined Employer B. Since I didn’t had any UAN with me, I never gave any UAN to B. So Employer B went ahead and opened my EPF account with their own Trust. When I contacted the EPF team of B, they told me my UAN can’t be generated, since the EPF lies with Trust.

    Since I wanted to get update on my old EPF (balance etc) few days back (last week) I contacted Employer A and asked them to generate my UAN. So employer A accepted my request generate UAN today and they are working on it.

    Now is funny part, while I checked our SAP portal today, I saw that Emp B have already generated my UAN. So I went and activated UAN. Please note that I activated my UAN with the pension number I got from Emp B (not the EPF no, mind it. Since EPF number doesn’t match on EPF site records). I can now login intp UAN portal and whenever I try to download passbook, it says to me:- Passbook not available as pertain to exempted establishment (i.e. Trust). This is ok and expected.

    Thing is, when I tried to list previous member ID and put EPF account that I had with Emp A, I got exception like:-
    Name against member ID entered by you does not match. Kindly contact to concerned EPFO office. (Here is screenshot for same: https://snag.gy/XNK0VD.jpg)

    Having said this, I have few questions

    1) How do I link or list my old EPF account under the current UAN I got. Do I need to tell my current employer to do it for me?
    2) Will uploading KYC document like PAN will enable to list/link old EPF acccount under this UAN? If yes, how much time do I need to wait before uploaded document is approved?
    3) What will happen with Emp A UAN generation attempt? Should I ask them not to proceed with UAN generation request?
    4) With Emp B where can I see my pension account balance? (this account is getting credit 8.3% of employer contribution amount).

    Sorry for long querry, but I guess there is so much confusion with this EPF and UAN.

    -M

    1. Sorry , but please repost your query in brief !

  22. ABHI says:

    HAI SIR THIS IS ABHI I HAVE DOUBT SIR PLEASE CLARIFY IT…NOW I AM WORKING IN SOME COMPANY FROM PAST 1 YEAR I GOT UAN NUMBER ALSO…BUT NOW I GOT JOB IN SOME GOV SECTOR I DONT WANT TO TELL MY OLD COMPANY NAME…NOW SHALL I GIVE MY UAN NUMBER TO MY NEW COMPANY?..THEY WILL NOT CAME TO KNOW MY OLD COMPANY DETAILS?

    1. They will come to know about your past employment once you give the UAN

  23. Ramesh says:

    Hi thanks for the post. Need a small information immediately.

    Can my future employer see my job history through UAN number without my permission? I am planning to hide my previous employment details from the future employer and want to know if there is a way to track it through UAN

    1. You cant hide it now . They will be able to see your past employment

  24. Rahul says:

    Can i withdraw PF using UAN even if my Adhaar card KYC status is pending for Approval by employer .

  25. Rahul says:

    i have a UAN number . Now how to apply for Withdrawal .

    1. Jagoinvestor Admin says:

      Hi Rahul

      To withdraw the EPF, you can always fill up the form 19 and submit it to EPFO office. After few months try to follow up with RTI

      Manish

      1. Rahul says:

        my KYC approval status is pending . So can i still withdraw my pf using UAN .

  26. JIGAR says:

    HELLO I AM JIGAR CHAVDA, I ALREADY UPLOADED MY KYC DOCUMENTS OF UAN PORTAL BUT FROM LAST 1 MONTH THAT IS IN PENDING QUEUE SO WHAT CAN I DO FOR KYC APPROVAL. ?

    1. Contact your employer for this. THey only have to approve that.

  27. shashi says:

    HI MYSELF SHASHI REKHA, I HAVE WITHDRAW MY PF AMT FROM PREVIOUS EMPLOYEE AND SAME uan NUMBER WAS GIVEN TO MY SECOND COMPANY SO I WANTED TO WITHDRAW THE AMT WITH MY SECOND COMPANY, WILL UAN NUMBER WILL REMAIN SAME EVEN IF U WITHDRAW UR PF AMT FROM PREVIOUS EMPLOYEE

  28. Badal says:

    Hi Manish,

    I have 2 PF accounts linked to my UAN. One is current organization and second is previous organization. My problem is my name is UAN and current organization is matching which has my first name, middle name first letter, and surname , but my previous organization pf name is only first name and last name. They have not used middle name. Incase i transfer my PF from previous to current employer will it get rejected due to this middle name initial issue. Both PF are linked to my UAN and validated by my organizations.

    Thanks in advance for your response.

    Badal.

  29. Naveena says:

    Hi Manish,

    I have completed my 4.9 years of service by 03-sep-2015 and its been almost a year i eft my job…now my marriage has been fixed and i wish to withdraw my pf amount .UAN details ,KYC details are updated and the employer has approved all including aadhar.

    1)Will i able to withdraw pf amount???
    In that case whole or partial???

    2)If i joined a new job in 6 months will this withdrawal process will affect????

  30. bkashid says:

    Hi Manish.

    i left my privous job on 0ct 2015 if i want to withdraw my pf, how much % tax will deduct.
    and if i keep as it is do i get interest on this money.
    also i heard only 50% amt will get at age of 58 is it?
    I have UAN and both pf account i can see on UAN website.
    what will be correct time to withdraw money after 5 yrs ? without tax deduction
    and if i transfer that x amount to my new pf account will i get interest for this amount?

  31. nagendra says:

    hi sir,
    i am working in a company from 6 years.still i have resigned my job.i have pf uan number also.Now i want my pf amount urgently.is it possible within 20 days?

  32. Shreyas says:

    Hi

    I had left my job on Dec,2015. But I did not disclose about my past experience to my present employer. when it comes to UAN and PF,
    1.will they get to know about my past experience?
    2. Will it affect my current employment in any means?
    3. Will they create a new UAN account for me?

    Please help. Im really confused and worried.

    1. If you have given the same old UAN, then yes they might come to know about it !

  33. Rajendra Mehra says:

    How to transfer PF between 2 UN

    1. You need to fill up the transfer form for that

  34. Meet says:

    I have purchased a Flat on me and my wife’s name . Would like to withdraw money from EPF to make the last 2 payments to the Builder . My UAN is already activated my bank account and PAN details updated . Only Aadhar card is remaining . Already applied for it . How much time does it take for the Aadhar card to be completely approved in the UAN portal, so that I can proceed with the withdrawl of money without any Employer’s intervention .

    1. It will depend on your employer actually . He just have to approve it online at his side. Thats all

  35. SHAZIYA says:

    hi manish,

    have new company, without a formal exit from previous company..

    1. should i give the same UAN to new company. or should go for new UAN Creation?
    2. can i withdraw money from previous company pf?
    3. will my old company will come to know that i have joined new company if i give same UAN ?

    PLZ HELP

    1. 1. I dont have answer to that right now. I think its better to let them create new UAN

      2. You will still be able to withdraw your old EPF , though through offline mode

      3. I am not sure on that, but may be yes

  36. Gopichand says:

    Hi, I have withdrawn my PF from my last company and I have UAN no as well. Now my new company is asking for my UAN no so my question is will it work my last company UAN no or I have to go for new ?

    1. An employee is supposed to have just one UAN only, so give the old UAN only !

  37. Athira says:

    My current employer says he has linked my current Pf to my UAN, but I can’t find it in my UAN account, it’s been a year I’m after this, he says I have to transfer my previous Pf to current Pf , but I don’t want to transfer th money I want keep them separate in Pf because I might withdraw it, he says it’s because of not transferring im not able to see current Pf balance in th UAN, now his time has changed he is threatening to transfer th money, which sounds something wrong, I can’t find th Pf linked to my UAN. In this article I read one can keep more than one account linked to UAN if it’s in one name I can’t figure out what’s happening please help me with this

    1. He is correct here. You will not see it under UAN unless you transfer it.

      So dont transfer, let it be there like that, Hte only problem is that after 3 yrs of inactivity,it will loose getting interest part.

      1. Athira says:

        Because i saw the option that it will get automatically transferred to current PF, I later checked so it was found that he has not linked my current account to my UAN, now I can see both my Previous and current account in my UAN without transfer. and cant access the passbook to know the details

        1. Transfer automatically ?

          Why will it get transferred automatically ? It will happen only when you start the process. Fill up the transfer form for that

          Manish

  38. Premal says:

    My employer has not approved KYC details digitally. My company is closed & employer phone is showing disconnected. In update KYC details it showing verification status pending. My UAN already activated. Please help what I do……

    1. You can apply for withdrawal offline in this case !

  39. mohsina says:

    Hi,

    I dont have a UAN im waiting for my employer to provide me a UAN ,so once I have this can I just fill the form 19 and submit to pf office or is there any thing else I need to do? Please advice im so confused. Thanks alot

    1. You can do form filling and submit to EPFO

  40. KM says:

    Hi,

    Please answer these questions for me.

    1.My HR says that UAN card is enough to apply for PF withdrawal. Is it correct?

    2. Am presently in bangalore, so can I use a different bank account (from a different state) and update the same on UAN portal and apply for PF withdrawal?

    3. Once I update KYC on the UAN portal do I need to inform my employer to approve ?

    Thanks,

    1. 1, Not sure on that. I am sure that its not enough to do things online if your KYC is not approved

      2. Thats not easy . There is a lot of documentation involved in that case

      3. Yes.

    2. Martin says:

      I was transfer my PF money from Quess corp to Reliannce SMSL on 10th August 2016, My Previous and current organization also approved my online transfer amount. But in PF PassBook that transfer amount not shown.

  41. jenniferharriswilliams says:

    Terrific Article !!! thank you. We are the employer. can you advise how WE obtain the UAN # for the employee ? Do we do this through our local payroll provider or can we complete this in the epfindia.com web site?
    Regards

    1. I am not sure on that but you get it from EPFO

  42. athira gopal says:

    I have a UAN number and my old PF account number is linked to it but my new employer has not yet linked the new PF to my UAn is it possible i can link it or only the existing employer has to do

    1. Only employer can do it

  43. Mohamed says:

    Hi,
    I tried logging in to UAN portal . but not able to do so. I have reset the password several times still not able to login.

    what should i do??

    1. Hi Mohamed

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  44. Nitin says:

    once I provide a UAN to new employer, do I still need to transfer the money from old member account to new account or just linking both the same is enough ?

    1. For old accounts, you will have to transfer it manually !

  45. Snehal says:

    I have left job in february 2014, and was abroad after that.
    my earlier employer saying to generate new UAN & withdraw the EPF amount.
    But while generating new UAN, system is giving error msg that Birth date not matching”, even though all the details are correct. pl. suggest

    1. Hi Snehal

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  46. TarunPatel says:

    i have two uan no but i transfer my pf in present employer in old uan so any problem

    1. No, there should not be any issues

  47. Divya says:

    I left job on 31st March 2016.. planning to do higher studies.. wanted to withdraw PF so employers said to activate UAN I did that uploaded documents but verification status is pending since 2 months. Till the KYC documents are not verified, employers won’t process PF withdrawal.. wat shld I do??

    1. Hi Divya

      To withdraw the EPF, you can always fill up the form 19 and submit it to EPFO office. After few months try to follow up with RTI

      Manish

      1. Sunil says:

        Hi Manish,

        I was working with a company at Delhi. I have UAN no and I want to withdraw that money. Now I am in Chandigarh . Can I submit the form 19 at Chandigarh ?

  48. mohsina says:

    Hi can one please tell me…I have a UAN number but kyc is not filled and I want to withdraw my PF and my company says that I should be applying fr that.. so should I fill the form 19 and submit to PF department

    1. Yes, that will work for PF withdrawal !

  49. SIDHARTH says:

    I was having the UAN nos and it was been linked with the Mobile Nos, But during change of JOB, My new employer had allocated a new UAN with th same Mobile No. Now I am unable to activate the New UAN as the mobile no is linked with the OLD UAN. Is there any way to deregister the UAN or MOBILE No

    1. I am not aware how to fix it !

  50. abc says:

    hi sir, I no longer have the registered phone number and forgot my password, what could be done now

    1. Hi abc

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  51. Rajiv says:

    Hi,
    My wife was working in an IT company before she joined higher studies. She left the company without following the normal process, so company didn’t provide her any relieving letter.. She didn’t join any new company after that. It’s been almost 2 two years since she left the company and just recently checked her PF account and found that there is a small amount available..
    She has a valid UAN and her Bank account and PAN card is linked to the account.
    Can she withdraw that amount without any hurdles like Employer signature or something else..

    Sincerely,
    Rajiv

    1. this space is still fuzzy . She can try to withdraw and see what happens when she tries that. But anyways she can apply for PF withdrawal offline !

  52. ujjal ghosh says:

    Sir.my problem is kyc I OK in the kyc activities .but of office is not OK.

    1. Hi ujjal ghosh

      I am not clear on what is your question. Please repeat it with more clarity

      Manish

  53. Sobin says:

    My Date Of Birth is showing wrong in my UAN which was created my previous employer.The Current employer is not able to link the new PF account to my UAN .I have checked with old Employer and submitted all joint declaration letter , self declaration letter and photocopy of my identity and they have informed me they have submitted all documents in PF Office.But still in my UAN, DOB is showing as wrong.
    Is there anything can i do from myside?

    1. You can apply for DOB change in EPFO

  54. XYZ says:

    Hi,

    I would like to know how and when we can withdraw PF amount. Also there is 3 section in UAN passbook Employee share Employer Share and Pension contribution. Can I able to withdraw complete amount or we can withdraw upto some extent. What are the norms??

    1. Hi XYZ

      To withdraw the EPF, you can always fill up the form 19 and submit it to EPFO office. After few months try to follow up with RTI

      Manish

      1. xyz says:

        thanx for reply, but i want to know can i withdraw PF during my employment.

  55. Vasanth says:

    Your UAN is not allotted for Member ID MHBAN00484750001106351, kindly provide following details for generating new UAN.
    After enter all detailsi click ge t pin it show, Your Date of Birth and Name did not match.
    help me to resolve issue.

    1. Hi Vasanth

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  56. murali says:

    One person left an industry and withdraw epf amount , and again he wants to join in the same industry, Is it advisable.. He just cancel the pf for money only..

    1. I didnt get your query !

  57. George says:

    I resigned from my first company on 4th July 2016 (Last day). I have my UAN no. also my Bank Account No. and PAN is linked to my UAN by my employer. And I’m not working for the time being but moving abroad for my higher studies, I would like to withdraw my PF. So my questions are:

    1. Is it advisable to withdraw my PF now? If no what are the drawbacks?
    2. How to withdraw my PF using the new method of UAN form?

    1. 1. Its advisable to withdraw incase you need money in near future. After 3 yrs of inactivity, anyways it will stop earning interest and once you put your papers for withdrawal, it will take many months to get the process done

      2.That will be very complicated for you as now you are not into job . I suggest putting the physical form 19 + 10C to EPFO department

  58. Ganesh says:

    Hi, I am unemployed since 6 May 2016 so can I apply my PF through my own now?

  59. Vipul says:

    I have one UAN No. with my 3 PF accounts linked to it. If I have to withdraw all 3 PF amounts, will have to file separate PF withdrawal application or only one will suffice. If one will suffice, then how 3 different employers will sign one application.

    1. You need to file 3 separate one !

  60. pooja says:

    Hello,

    My UAN was created by my previous organization. I have activated the UAN and able to see the passbook as well. I left the job and withdrawn the PF from previous organization. Now I have joined new organization. They have alloted me a new PF account but it is not linked to my UAN. Now how can I link my new PF account to my UAN?

    please help.

    1. Provide them your old UAN number, they will update the EPF account in that!

  61. arya says:

    hi,
    can anyone here tell me if same kyc can be used for 2 different uan belonging to same person?

      1. arya says:

        my previous employer have already used pan no for my uan 1.
        so that means i cannot use pan number for uan 2?

        but i have read people have same pan for 2 uan..
        so i just need to confirm it from your end,as you are much more knowledgable on this issue?

        1. Hi Arya

          Yes, I know this issue, but looks like I have not encountered this myself.

          1. arya says:

            so you think similar pan number will create a duplicate issue?

            1. arya says:

              i have read people asking similar questions about a month back…if they could kindly tell abouth the situation ,it would be of great help to others.

  62. ravi says:

    i was uploaded my kyc pan number in uan portal but the process showing pending even after 7 days. i was resigned my job 2months back. so now who will verify my kyc pan details employer or epf organization pls clarify sir..without pan update pf office people not giving my amount.

    1. You can do an offline withdrawal

  63. Chumthang says:

    Hi Manish,

    I worked with X company for almost 3 years where I was alloted a UAN. When I joined Y company , they have alloted another UAN. I left Y company also more than a year ago and have started my own business. Now I wish to withdraw my pf. Will there be any problem in pf withdrawal for having two UAN?
    Thanks in advance. Awaiting for your reply.

  64. Chirag says:

    I have worked with many organizations and out of them I have withdrawn the PF from 2 organizations. Others I am sure there will not be any PF left and I do not need it. Currently working with Vodafone and HR is asking for it. Last organization I have worked with for 3 years, I have withdrawn my PF. Do I have to contact last Employer and get UAN OR I do not need it? Will my Current Employer will create new UAN?

    1. I didnt get what HR is asking for ?

  65. balaji says:

    i gave uploaded KYC but still showing pending status , Let me know when i uploaded KYC update my previous employer will get notification or i have to contact them manually to get it approve?

    1. You need to contact them manually !

  66. Aditya says:

    Same Question i have UAN1 form my previous employer and my new employer has created another UAN2 for my current job. what to do how to link my UAN1 with my current UAN2?
    Please do reply any one

    1. Hi Aditya

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  67. RVKumar says:

    I have UAN1 from old employer1 HCL. And i have UAN2 tagged to employer2, employer3. What should i do in this case ? can i move PF1 account tagged to UAN1 to UAN2 ?

    1. arya says:

      hi ravi,
      can you please tell me if you have same kyc for the 2 uan’s that you have got?

  68. SG says:

    Hello, I didnt get any support from my previous employer (X) regarding PF. So I created my UAN no. on my own. How can I withdraw my PF now. I left that organisation in sep’15. After that I have joined elsewhere (Y) but have taken a sabbatical this month and resigned for completion of a course. I want to claim a withdrawal from both the organisations (X & Y). Furthermore my F&F settlement has been held back my employer X for nearly 9 months now, claiming pending payments from a project client I was working on though the approval for the projects were given my the senior management only who were equally involved in the project too. I believe this is just a case of harassment. Kindly help out and advise.

    1. EPF money cant be blocked for any reason . Kindly complain with EPFO on this matter.

      1. SG says:

        Thx for ur input

  69. sunil says:

    Hi Manish,

    is it possible to cancel/remove uan number?

    1. No, you cant cancel it

  70. Anonymous says:

    hi I got 3 UAN numbers from 3 organisations. Is it OK? out of which I hav activated 2 of them and also given for pf withdrawal. Wil it be a problem for me to withdraw my pf.

    1. There wont be an issue if you have followed the withdrawal process properly !

  71. pushpa says:

    Can I continue the old UAN NO. at my new office ?If yes shall I get my old pf amount transfer to new pf account? Is there any formality I have to do at my old office or directly I can update my UAN NO at new office?

    1. You just have to give your old UAN to your new employer ! , thats all

  72. Upasana says:

    Hi Manish,

    I have updated my Adhaar card but the approval is pending since last 5-6 months.
    And my KYC details are verified by my previous employer. What can I do in this case??

    1. Check with your current employer now for this issue, they should verify your KYC again it seems

  73. Mukesh says:

    My UAN no is activate but addhar no not linked . How EPF AMT. Withdraw withdraw company singnature.

    1. Check with your employer on this .

  74. Lakshminarayanan says:

    Hi,

    I have the UAN activated and member IDs linked to one PF account now.
    Upon retirement last month, I was given form 10C and form 19, UAN based, to be filled up along with a cancelled cheque to be submitted directly to the PF office.
    How long will it take for the money to be transferred to my bank account?
    Thanks.

    1. The timeline officially is 2-3 months, but at times it takes more than that

  75. RAVI says:

    HI Manish,

    When i am filling the UAN Data, it display’s an error DATE OF BIRTH Not match
    please help me how to update my Date of birth

    1. Hi RAVI

      This is very specific query which you should follow up with the concerned authority only. We wont be able to comment on that

      Manish

  76. Brijesh says:

    hello manish,

    i was working with a mumbai based company. on 23 of may i had given my resignation to serve 15 day notice period. and on 26 they have terminated me. now what should i do..now how can i withdrwal my p.f or can i transfer to new co. .

    plz suggest in details…

    regards
    brijesh

    1. Hi Brijesh

      To withdraw the EPF, you can always fill up the form 19 and submit it to EPFO office. After few months try to follow up with RTI

      Manish

  77. selvakumar says:

    Hi Manish,

    i will taken amount from previous organization, In current organization i’ll maintain the same UAN, but it causes this is issue “–Previous details against the entered UAN are incomplete, so the entered UAN cannot be linked to the current member id–“

    1. Check with your employer on this

  78. Manvi says:

    Hi,
    I joined in a company without the information about my previous employer. i have a pf account at the previous one which i have been withdrawn the amount. Now iam in a trouble will the account be still exists or the new employer should create new account.

    1. Hi Manvi

      Yes, your employer will anyways create a new EPF for you !. You dont have to worry about the old EPF

      Manish

  79. shyama says:

    Dear Sir..I was working with a company for six months.. Later resigned and joined new institution.in previous I had EPF but no uan..if new uan is generated in present company EPF can I withdraw the previous EPF using this new uan..

    1. No , you will have to manually withdraw from your old EPF !

  80. srinivas says:

    I have exited from the previous employment, I have linked the previous employment PF a/c. Tell me will i be able to withdraw the previous PF amount

    1. Hi srinivas

      To withdraw the EPF, you can always fill up the form 19 and submit it to EPFO office. After few months try to follow up with RTI

      Manish

  81. Ravinder says:

    Dear Manish
    1 Brief details :
    a. I opted for VRS from a company –A, after 29 years of service, at the age of 52d withdrew all PF and opted for Reduced Pension (very small amount) which I have been getting till now.
    b. Then I joined another company, say Company – B. Due to sheer ignorance I did not inform Company- B about that’ small “ Reduced EPS pension.
    c. At the age of 60 after 7 years 11 months of service I retired from Company B on 31-12-2014
    d. For that entire period of service, the Company B had deposited EPF ( Employer & Employee ) and also Pension Contribution into my EPF Account . There was No noncontributory service period .
    e. However it was only for 6 years till I reached 58 years the Pension contributions were made.
    f. After retirement on 31-12-2014 till now 28-05-16 I am not employed in any organization with PF contribution.
    g. It was only after retirement I came to to know about UAN got myself registered . I found that many of the details were already there except KYC & date of my Exit . Hence I uploaded my KYC docs and got it approved by the company B.

    2 Here are queries
    a. I am confused about the terminology (jargon) called ‘Superannuation and Retirement “What I knew is only this that ” I had to retire from company at the age of 60 on 31-12-2014 since that was the retirement age fixed by them.” Pl let me the difference between Retirement and Superannuation in relation to Form 19 –UAN and Form 10-c-UAN.
    Can my this “exit of my service ” be called “Superannuation “?
    b. EPF office informed that the company B had not filled up the Date of Exit and Reason for Exit. Is it mandatory on their part of Company – B , to login and enter those details . My case that should be Date of Exit from EPF – 31/12/2014, Date of Exit from EPS – 31/12/2012 & Reason for Leaving Service “S” (abbr ” Superannuation). Pl conrim.
    Note: After 31-12-2014 ( deposited in Jan 2015 ) there is no contribution into my Account.
    c. If they do not enter the above mentioned dates & details ( DOE & Reason ), under the present position , where I have UAN membership ,with approved KYC, UAN Pass Book , at the same time without any details of previous employer i.e Company – A and without details of Date of Exits & Reason for Exit from Company B, can I withdraw PF & EPS using Form- 19 UAN & Form 10-C UAN ? .
    I want to withdraw EPF & EPS only after 36 months in 31-12-2017 to get interest.
    d. Will I get interest for Pension Contribution since I am not eligible for Pension ( Total 6 years of contribution & 7 years 11 months service ). Note I am not using Form 10-D, but 10-c only .
    Looking forward your reply to my queries

    1. ask question in short please

  82. vijay says:

    Hi Manish,
    i m having three member ‘s linked in one UAN account and previous two was stopped and the third one in process.my question is. Is it possible me to withdraw my previous two PF amount instead of transferring to current one?

    1. Yes you can withdraw it, Its possible !

  83. ANKUR says:

    HOW MUCH TIME DO THEY TAKE TO PROCESS A UAN REQUEST

    1. There is no timeline for this. I suggest taking help of RTI here !

  84. Avinash says:

    I have to withdraw my PF amount and my PAN number is linked to my UAN. I would like to know that the Bank account details also needs to be linked to the UAN and the approval should be taken from the previous employer.

    1. Hi Avinash

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  85. supriya says:

    Hi Manish,

    I have UAN of my pf account, please let me know how to withdrwal PF amount without help of Employer.

  86. arya............... says:

    hi chakravarthy,

    I m stuck in same situation also…
    did your employer come to know about your previous uan using your pan card or other I’d proof?
    plz reply as its very urgent..

  87. Lokesh says:

    Hi Manish,
    1.I was working in a company.I have already submit withdrawal form to get the money.Now I am going to join a new company but i don’t want to show anything about my EPF like(UAN,EPF number).I want new company should create new EPF, new UAN for me.I dont want to share my old UAN with new Comp. Is it possible to do this? Is there any problem of duplicate records like PAN,mobile number while creating new UAN.
    plz rpl fast………..

    1. In that case tell your employer that you never got any UAN from your old employer and they should create a new UAN for you !

  88. Sam says:

    Hi Manish,

    Can employee itself able to link new PF account with existing UAN? Please suggest. Thanks in advance.

    1. I dont think so . Only employer can do that ! or atleast approve it once you link it !

    2. I think your employer can do that. Please contact them

  89. Pravin says:

    Hi Manish,
    1.I was working in a company.I have already submit withdrawal form to get the money.Now I am going to join a new company but i don’t want to show anything about my EPF like(UAN,EPF number).I want new company should create new EPF,new UAN for me.I dont want to share my old UAN with new Comp. Is it possible to do this? Is there any problem of duplicate records like PAN,mobile number while creating new UAN.
    2. Suppose i gave my UAN to new company,Is it possible that they can see my old company name?

    1. 1. You can tell your employer that you didnt get any UAN if you want

      2. Yes, your current employer can see your past employment !

  90. chitransh says:

    I have two PF accounts one from 2009 and other from 2010 and i am unable to link those to my UAN Now as i left those organisation before sep 2010. Please help how can i get those linked with my UAN

    1. Your employer only will be able to help you on this. Hence please contact them

  91. SathishKumar says:

    I lost my UAN registration mobile number and also I forgot my UAN login password, and visit TO online UAN help desk to change my registration mobile number but It is sending OTP to my register number so that I can’t able to login my Account, please help for this

    1. SathishKumar says:

      UAN card is required for EPF withdrawal?

    2. Hi SathishKumar

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  92. tnvenugopalan says:

    have transferred my PF account from OLD employer to New employer. Employee and Employer contribution amount is transferred to new PF account with interest while EPS(Employee Pension Scheme ) balance s not transferred. I have worked for 17 years in my previous organisation . and i retired, please let me know how to transfer my pension account

    Any suggestion?

    1. Hi tnvenugopalan

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  93. anand says:

    Hi Manish, I got UAN no from my new employer as I did not have from previous employer. I activated UAN no from my new employer and can see current employer details. Now I wanted to transfer my pf from previous employer to new employer. I checked with them for the process and there I came to know that previous employer also allocated UAN no. Now I have 2 UAN no. But I have activated only UAN no given by my new employer. Please suggest me.

    1. I am not sure what happens in this case.

  94. Rupesh says:

    I have transferred my PF account from OLD employer to New employer. Employee and Employer contribution amount is transferred to new PF account with interest while EPS(Employee Pension Scheme ) balance s not transferred. I have worked for 1year 4 months in my previous organisation .

    Any suggestion?

    1. DId you fill the form for EPS transfer ?

  95. manish says:

    I left a company in July 2011 and joined new company (in which employer doesn’t not linking my pf member id) . Further i have resigned after 6 months & joined my own business and now want to withdraw my previous PF .

    Its been more than 4 year. what can i do?

    I know Estt. Code but dint know my Employee ID ……………..Plz Help

    1. Hi manish

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  96. Sonali says:

    Hi,
    I have my UAN and want to withdraw the PF amount.
    Please let me know the procedure to withdraw the PF online

    -Sonali
    9028412622
    sonalil.1189@gmail.com

    1. Hi Sonali

      To withdraw the EPF, you can always fill up the form 19 and submit it to EPFO office. After few months try to follow up with RTI

      Manish

  97. ChandanSharma says:

    Hi Manish

    Employeer company closed in the year 1997. After discussion with the EPF office I comes to know that there is some amount available with my EPF account and for withdrwal of the same they need UAN.

    when visit the website for UAN the massage displays as Member ID does not exist. please guide for generation of UAN.

    Currently I am not working anywhere.

    1. Hi ChandanSharma

      To withdraw the EPF, you can always fill up the form 19 and submit it to EPFO office. After few months try to follow up with RTI

      Manish

  98. ankit says:

    Dear Sir,

    I have the una no and excess to my account. Now want to transfer the money to my account. Plz guide me the step for the same.

    1. Hi Ankit

      YOu need to fill up the transfer form and submit to EPFO .

  99. jaideep says:

    Hi Dear,

    My company deposit PF in 9 of march so may i know how many days its shows in my UAN passbook.

    1. Hi jaideep

      I am not clear on what is your question. Please repeat it with more clarity

      Manish

    2. Hi jaideep

      I am not clear on what is your question. Please repeat it with more clarity

      ManishHi jaideep

      I am not clear on what is your question. Please repeat it with more clarity

      Manish

  100. BishalKumar says:

    Hi Manish,
    I left a companyABC in Sept 2014 and joined new companyXYZ which i have resigned 4 months back. and now want to withdraw

    Concern:
    I can see UAN Number & EPF with CompanyABC. But XYZ just have EPF Account number and UAN shows as inProgress. and possibly seems that though applied for PF transfer from ABC to XYZ but has not been done.

    Please help on how to withdraw all amount?

    Thanks so much in advance.

    1. You can then fill up the withdrawal form 19 offline and submit to EPFO

  101. Nidhi says:

    Hi Manish,

    I have a EPF account associated with UAN. I took a break from work I withdrew the complete EPF amount.

    Now I have joined a new org can I provide the existing UAN to new employer even though I have withdrew the entire amount earlier ?

    1. Yes you can do that !

  102. Subhashini says:

    I am currently resigned my job. how can i with draw my money with uan account please reply

    1. Hi Subhashini

      To withdraw the EPF, you can always fill up the form 19 and submit it to EPFO office. After few months try to follow up with RTI

      Manish

  103. Sanjaya says:

    I have an uan number from previous employee, but the current employer us not linking the pf member id with uan due to digital signature not there with pf office, its been more than 1.7 year. what can i do?

    1. Hi Sanjaya

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  104. Chakravarthy says:

    Hi Manish,
    Will the new employer come to know the PF account number / UAN number by using My PAN when they are creating a new PF account.

    1. No I dont think so !

  105. Sreenath says:

    Please let me know how to withdraw pf using UAN. And also in KYC i have uploaded my Aadhar Card details and uploaded the document. Is that mandatory to upload attested one (self attested or Guazatted officer’s). Please advice..

  106. Ravi says:

    Hi Manish,

    I lost job when i had 2 years of experience and tool break of 1 year and rejoined other organisation as a fresher i havent activated my old UAN number given by my employer , is there any way to withdraw PF with out UAN number.

    Thanks

    1. Hi Ravi

      To withdraw the EPF, you can always fill up the form 19 and submit it to EPFO office. After few months try to follow up with RTI

      Manish

  107. Prakash says:

    When i was a existing employee joined other company and got relieved by one month. previous employer has paid 2 PF payments. Will there be any problem when 2 months payment is made by both employer? Any problem in transfering old PF to New? please clarify. Change of job in August 2015.

    1. I dont think there will be any issues later

  108. VinodSharma says:

    Hi Manish,

    I left my previous employer in feb 16 & join another company in the very same month feb 16. I have given my UAN to my new employer & they are submitting my pf amount in same UAN. My question for you is Can I withdraw my previous PF amount?

    Thanks
    Vinod

    1. Amit says:

      Hi…. As per the rules of EPFO members are eligible for withdrawal of PF and EPS scheme when they are being unemployed for 2 Months. Since you have left the job and joined another in same month keeping the same UAN, this will show the EPF office that your employment gap is not eligible for withdrawal.

    2. Yes, but only if you are unemployed, Otherwise you will have to transfer it to the current one !

  109. Jignesh says:

    How to withdraw the PF money if I have UAN? I am currently doing my post graduation and would like to withdraw money. Is it possible to withdraw without the help of previous employer and also how much time it will take to receive the money?

  110. Pramod says:

    Dear Sir,

    I want know one thing that is if my UAN has 2 PF numbers,i want to withdrawal single PF from that existing UAN, whether is it possible to withdraw ?

  111. SRINIVASAN says:

    HI

    My Name in PF records and in all documents are SRINIVASAN N and in my Old PF records are SRINIVASAN NAGARAJAN ( They’ve expanded my surname) . My PF transfer is successful. Please suggest whether it’ll create any issue.

    1. If its already done, then no issues now !

      1. SRINIVASAN says:

        Hi Sir

        Thanks for replying. Hope from now, my new PF records (SRINIVASAN N) will be taken into consideration in future

  112. Chaithra says:

    Hi Sir,

    I have 3 PF accounts activated . I have transferred pf1 to pf2. But PF2 and PF3 are not mapped to my UAN.
    Can you please suggest me how can I map my pf2 and Pf3 to my UAN.

    Thanks,
    Chaithra

    1. Is PF2 also under UAN ?

  113. ChandHanif says:

    Dear Sir,

    I left my first company in 2013. Then after i generated UAN in 2016. I have uploaded my PAN card as a KYC document. I just want to know that, will this PAN card will need approval of my previous emplower. Right now i have different pf account.

    Also let me know how can i merge both accounts.

    Hoping for a reply.

    Regards,

    Chand Hanif

    1. Yes you can surely merge two EPF accounts ..

      1. ChandHanif says:

        Dear Sir,

        My current employer says that my date of birth is not mentioned in the earlier PF account which is creating problem in merging two accounts. Also i approached my previous employer, they are not supporting.

        Request you to suggest any way so that i can get my account merged or get my money withdrawn.

        Regards,

        Chand Hanif

        1. Hi ChandHanif

          I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

          Its a bit long cut, but works well

          Manish

  114. Sundar M says:

    Hi Manish,

    I resigned my first job in Dec 2015 and joined new company in Jan 2016. Now I have two PF accounts tagged to single UAN. I would like to close my first PF account which was created in my earlier company. Is it possible to close one pf account and withdraw the money? Please provide your comments.

    Thanks,
    Sundar M

    1. No , you can withdraw it, but then you can always transfer the amount to another one !

      1. SundarM says:

        Hi Manish,

        Thanks for your response. you meant to say that I can’t close the PF account which was created by my previous company, but I can withdraw all the money from that account . Am i right? Please correct me if i am wrong.

        Thanks,
        Sundar M

        1. You can withdraw only if you are unemployed. else you can only transfer it to your new EPF

  115. Chakravarthy says:

    I worked in a private company for 6 months. i have a query regarding UAN. i’ll be switching job to another company without showing my past experience since i will not get NOC & Full and Final settlement . the past employer already applied for UAN and i have UAN also. is it possible to create a new UAN Number with the new employer. if it is possible, will the new employer come to know about my past experience using my PAN. please guide how can i get out of this situation. Please give me the response

    1. HAMESH says:

      UAN is nothing but a central database of all your employers and your past employment, but this will only be visible to employee and no one else.

    2. The new employer will create UAN for you if you show yourself as a Fresher. They will not come to you about your past employment

      Manish

      1. Chakravarthy says:

        Thanks for replying.
        But i’m not a fresher and already i have a PF Number & UAN number.
        is it possible, will the new employer come to know about my past experience using my PAN when they want to create a new PF account. ? ? ?

  116. Sankar says:

    I have two UAN numbers with the same PAN, which one i have to use please help me.

    1. Use the one you got from your latest employer !

  117. KATLA says:

    Hi

    I m facing the error that UAN and Member id are mismath
    please help me

    1. Hi KATLA

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  118. DK says:

    UAN for our employee I am waiting since 1 year and is still showing member id is already under process (through ecr)

    1. Hi DK

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  119. vijeet saigal says:

    Dear Manish,
    I have left 5 companies in my previous career & never withdrawn my PF amount, now is it possible that can i linked my previous companies PF account nos with my current UAN.

    1. No , before UAN came into picture, all the EPF account before that has to be withdrawn manually !

  120. Narsi says:

    Hi, I have UAN Number. I moved to another Company and i withdrwan the EPF money. My new PF was not linked to the UAN. When asked the Employer i came to know that once you withdraw the money u can not link the PF to UAN. Now my Employer opened another UAN for me. Not sure what to do now. Please advise me.

    1. Now better use the new UAN only !

      1. Ajay says:

        I heard that the PF department has made Aadhaar Card mandatory KYC document to upload with respect to our PF account. Without Aadhaar we can’t withdraw/do any other transaction with your PF account. Please let me know if it is mandatory or not ?

        1. No I dont think so its mandatory . Where do you read it ?

  121. SRINIVASAN says:

    Hi

    In UAN portal my name is Srinivasan Nagarajan. However my correct name in EPF is Srinivasan N.
    My Father’s correct name in UAN is Nagarajan PS. However in PF records it shows as Nagarajan.

    I need to change my name @ UAN as SRINIVASAN.N and I need to change my father’s name@ EPF as NAGARAJAN.PS

    Will it create any issue. Pls suggest on this.

    1. Yes, the issue can happen later, Its always better to get the name changed asap !

      1. Srinivasan says:

        Thanks for replying. whether can we change father name through KYC online. Please suggest

        1. I am not sure on that!

  122. N Shetty says:

    Hi Manish,
    I left my job in April 2015, worked for approx 7 months and have taken a break from work for further studies, I would be taking up a job again in july 2016. I have epf balance lying in my account and also have my UAN no.
    wanted to know whether I can transfer this amount to the new employer as and when I join a job ?
    Thanks

    1. Yes, when you join your new employer then give a UAN to him that time ..

  123. atul says:

    Sir i checked my passbook Through EPFO app there is showing 900 rs Employee share and 275rs employer share then is there any amount transfer in pention account is apart of it or in it

    1. It might be the old amounts.

  124. HIMANSHU says:

    I GOT THE UAN NO. 100164523606 FOR MEMBER ID MRNOI00133290000005106 & WORKED FROM 02-01-2012 TO 08-01-2014 AFTER LEAVING THE JOB I WITHDRAW THE AMOUNT, KYC WAS UPDATED BY EMPLOYER.

    THEN I JOINED A NEW FIRM IN 12-01-2015 AND GOT A MEMBER ID MRNOI00133290000005607 I HAD GIVEN THE SAME UAN NO TO UPDATE, I LEFT FROM THIS FIRM ON 31-12-2015 AND CURRENTLY NOT WORKING ANYWHERE, NOW I WANT TO WITHDRAW THE MONEY BUT MY CURRENT MEMBER ID IS NOT UPDATED IN UAN NO AS VERIFICATION STATUS SHOWS : “Confirmed by employer. Member-ID linked subject to verification by EPFO” AND WHEN I CHECKED THE STATUS FOR UAN NO FOR THIS MEMBER ID IT SHOWS : “Request for UAN for this Member Id MRNOI00275540000001183 is already under process.(through ECR)”

    KINDLY SUGGEST ME HOW TO LINK THE MEMBER ID TO UAN NO SO THAT I CAN GET KYC DETAIL TO WITHDRAWL MY PF AMOUNT AS IT IS VERY URGENT FOR ME NOWDAYS.

    SEEKING FOR YOUR HELP AND EARLY ACTION/RESPONSE IN THIS REGARD.

    1. Hi HIMANSHU

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

      1. BYJU says:

        book a complaint about your updation status through EPF grievance mechanism through online.It will resolve your problem better than RTI

  125. Bhagyshri says:

    Hellow sir,
    I updated my Kyc information for pan card and cancelled check on UAN but details for check shows verification pending status…. how is verify and what is next steps for Epf withdrawal.

    1. Hi Bhagyshri

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

      1. BYJU says:

        Hi manish bhai it is sorry to say the in almost all queries you are suggesting RTI route.I think EPF has a fast and transparent grievance redressel mechanisam .Any queries and complaints either by the Member or the employer can ask to the EPFO via EPIGMS ..it will resolve the the issues very fast .

        1. Yes, but a lot of EPF issues are such that one cant answer that if the issue gets complicated, one has to find out by RTI only. I am also limited in my knowledge at times.

  126. srikanth says:

    hai ,

    i have a UAN number created by the old employer , the pf amount which is there of employer can i with draw it ?
    as the new employer has linked the new PF act of mine to the same UAN. is it possible to woth draw my old employers PF amount after linking to new PF ACT .

    as my previous employer has made the transfer claim and it got approved ?

    so now do i have a chance to with draw the old , please suggest

    1. Hi srikanth

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  127. Shiv says:

    Hi Manish,

    The EPFO site clearly shows: “that this facility available for only active members (contribution received through ECR for the wage month October 2013 onwards) would be able to register themselves.”

    I was an active member only till Feb’12.

    So all this new development is prospective and not retrospective?

    So this applies only to employment on or after Oct-2013?

    1. Hi Shiv

      Thanks for asking your question. However we do not have answer to your question.

      Manish

      1. Shiv says:

        Thanks

  128. Mrinal says:

    If i change the company and want to withdraw all my PF money and not transfer it, is it possible.

    1. Yes, possible if you are unemployed.

      1. BYJU says:

        It is possible if we are joining in an organisation where EPF scheme is not adopted like Central Govt where contributory PF system prevails

        1. Hi BYJU

          I am not very clear of your query, can you please reask it with more simpler language ?

  129. Santanu says:

    Hi Manish,

    I have joined a new company 6 months back. They have linked the new PF account with my UAN. So Now I have 2 PF accounts in UAN. I have submitted the online transfer of PF amount from Previous Employer to Current Employer successfully today.

    But today I saw something strange when I go to UANHelpDesk http://59.180.231.60:9091/UANHD/index.jsp and enter my UAN it shows “Invalid UAN.Please Check”.

    But I am able to login to http://uanmembers.epfoservices.in using my UAN and password. I can see all the information of my 2 PF accounts.

    One more thing is when I go to http://uanmembers.epfoservices.in/check_uan_status.php and check for my current PF account UAN status it shows –

    “UAN already activated. Please provide following details to receive details on your registered mobile.”

    and then when i put my mobile number and captcha and submitted it. it shows ” MEMBER ID AND MOBILE NUMBER MISMATCHED.

    Do I need to activate the UAN again after linking the new PF account ?

    Could you please advise on these please.

    Thank you in advanced.

    Regards,
    Santanu

    1. Hi Santanu

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

      1. Supriya says:

        What is RTI?

        1. RTI is a law under which one can find some information legally from a govt organisation !

  130. Jitendra says:

    i hv chng the cmpy and my UAN no. is activated in last cmpy and same UAN no. Is continue in new cmpy but i want to transfer my pf account from old to currennt pf account so what i can do?????

    1. You need to fill up the transfer form manually in that case !

  131. Prashant singh says:

    Hi,
    I have an activated UAN and want to withdraw pf but the problem is that I have closed that bank account which was linked to epfo. Now I have a new account and want to transfer that pf in that account itself. So what should I do to get my pf in my new bank account.

    1. Hi Prashant singh

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  132. anubhav says:

    Hi – My wife has an active UAN number with her current employer. And UAN account is in her new name post marriage.
    She also has two separate PF accounts from previous employers, that have NOT been transferred. We have the account numbers but they cannot be traced online. And both these accounts are in her Maiden name (pre-marriage)

    Is there a way to get the amount from previous two PF accounts transferred to the current one? if yes, can you pls advise

    1. Hi anubhav

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

      1. Anubhav says:

        Thanks for your response Manish.
        What if we submit pf transfer forms for previous 2 employers with the current one. Would that work?

        1. Yes, it should work . Now there is a process of transferring the PF online. I mean you can process the request online atleast. Search for it !

  133. Alok says:

    Hi Manish,

    Nice Article!
    Would like to point out one thing though. I switched jobs 6 months back and my new EPF account is linked to my UAN. However, the automatic transfer hasn’t happened.

    After googling, I found this link: http://www.epfindia.com/site_docs/PDFs/UAN_PDFs/UAN_ForMembers/FAQ-Member-July2015.pdf

    In Q.33, it states that auto-transfer claim happens on the new Employer approving the KYC claim.

    Do you havr any idea on this?

  134. Lukas says:

    I have activated UAN and also created username and password but now I forgot my password and also have changed my cell number hence unable to reset the password and login

    1. Hi Lukas

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  135. Neetu says:

    Hi sir,
    I worked for 3 organization for 6 months each before Sep 2014 I don’t have UAN number , know I wanted to withdraw my pf from all three organizations , is it possible to withdraw this, please suggest the available option for me all the 3 organization is in Gurgaon

    1. You need to seperately submit the withdrawl forms to EPFO for all the epf accounts

  136. Hiral says:

    When I am checking for UAN no, it shows following massage,
    Request for UAN for this Member Id TNMAS00545630000000598 is already under process.(through ECR)
    what to do now?

    1. You need to contact your employer for this

  137. SAIKIRAN says:

    I DONT HAVE A UAN NUMBER BT MY UAN IS ALLOTED IN THE EPFO RECORDS.SO IF IAM ENTERING THE DETAILS IN ACTIVE YOUR UAN IAM GETTING DID NOT MATCH DATE OF BIRTH PLEASE FIND OUT WHY IT IT IS COMING

    1. Hi SAIKIRAN

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  138. Arun says:

    I have UAN Number. I changed my job. I linked new PF number to UAN.
    – Do I need to initiate PF transfer request from OLD PF to NEW PF?
    – If i do not transfer PF to NEW PF, would i get interest on money deposited with OLD PF

    1. Yes , initiate the transfer manyally
      Yes, but only for 3 yrs !

  139. Dipika says:

    Hello sir
    I joined job in 1-6-2015 nd left in 1-9-2015.now i want to withdraw my pf money..but no kyc updation is there in my UAN member portal.so is there any need for kyc updation by me nd my employer is complusory for withdrwal ? Awaiting for ur answer.

    1. No , UAn is not manadatory . You can always do a offline form filling and withdraw the EPF

  140. PalashDatta says:

    I am having One UAN with two Menber ID linked in it.
    Should I transfer the amount appearing in Old Member ID in the new one?
    If not transferred should I get interest benefit for both the linked member ID?
    Please suggest.

    1. You will get the interest for both till 3 yrs only. I think you should transfer the old EPF to new EPF

  141. ritu says:

    hi there, I have submitted for my PF 3 years ago. When I submit to see the status, I see a message

    Request for UAN for this Member Id PYBOM00113940000080446 is already under process.(through ECR). What does this mean? Is my UAN creation still under process? But I’m seeing this message for a few years now. Can you please let me know if there is an email that I can write to the government regarding the status of my UAN.

    1. Hi ritu

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  142. Amit says:

    Hi Manish,
    My UAN Status showing “Request for UAN for this Member Id APHYD00xxxxx000000xxxx is already under process.(through ECR)”. Now I had resigned from my current organisation and switching to new organisation. How can I get my UAN. Do I need to ask my new employer for other UAN

    1. Yes, you will have to check this with your current employer only

  143. Deepak says:

    Sir,
    I want to withdraw Pf from my previous company.I have activated UAN,and uploded scanned copy of cheque and bank details in kyc details.but my employer is asking for my adhar card.he said without adhar card I am not able to withdraw my pf.I don’t have adhar card,I have applied for it but it will take time but I need urgent money for my operation.I have pan card ,voter I’d as well.is it not enough.pls help me in this regards.

    1. Yes, your employer is correct. Without aadhaar you cant withdraw online . However you can apply offline

      1. Deepak says:

        Thanks sir for your feedback.just one more thing I want to know is I have tow different pf account,should I have to transfer claim for one to another or I have to withdraw separately.which one will took less time.
        And also I am not able to download my passbook,it always shows it is in progress.its been almost 10 days now.
        Looking forward for your valuable revertonce again thanks .

        1. YEs, I suggest that you withdraw from both seperately !

      2. Deepak says:

        Thanks for your feedback sir.As I told you that I have applied for adhar card ,I have received it but my date of birth is wrong.should I upload it on UAN or wait for updation.

        1. Better get it corrected first !

          1. Deepak says:

            Hi sir,
            Thanks for your suggestion.I need to know one more thing,my Pf amount is EE 24516 and ER 11129, I have submitted forms 10c UAN,19 UAN and 31 g .what amount I will get and how long it will take.my employer is approved my kyc details on UAN.

            1. Generally it takes months … so you cant be very sure on the timeline.. At times it streaches to years !

  144. Narendra says:

    Hi,

    I have resigned my job in sep 2014 .I am not working anywhere else. Now I have applied for withdrawal and in In UAN database I found my Date of Birth is incorrect(date and month are interchanged) will it cause any problem in withdrawal of PF.
    How to correct the DOB. I have UAN activated.

    1. Hi Narendra

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

      1. omprakash says:

        hi sir,

        i have surrender my pf dec-2014 and withdrawal and opening a new pf account in same company Jan-2015 but my uan number is activated to old pf account now how can i link my current account to uan number .

        1. Hi omprakash

          I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

          Its a bit long cut, but works well

          Manish

  145. rahul says:

    Good evening Sir/Madam,

    I left my company ending of November. Today when I went to submit form 19 for PF withdrawal, I was asked to produce UAN. When I contacted my past employer, they denied of knowing such acronym. Later after much insistence, I am assured to contact them after a week. Does it take so much time to create a UAN? Why haven’t they created one whilst I was employed with them? What does MH/PUN/6 digit number followed by 4 digit number define? your portal asks for 7 digit and 3 digit number after MH/PUN/……./…

    1. amar says:

      Hi Rahul,
      i think u can see your UAN number from EPF website–http://uanmembers.epfoservices.in/check_uan_status.php fill all the details here exluding ext and see if any UAN alloted. if not then there is option to create UAN .

    2. You need to check with with your current employer !

  146. MB says:

    Hi, I have a UAN number provided by my organization. I have left the organization 3 months ago and now am nearly in the process of withdrawal of my pf amount. My question to you here is my UA N number already seems to be activated however I don’t get any sms when I try to reset my password I get an error message mismatch contact number. How do I go about? Also would I need the UAN number for pf withdrawal amount… Thanks awaiting a response will really be helpful

  147. Sharath says:

    Hi Manish,

    Thanks for the website and it is very informative…….Great work

    I have a query related to UAN.

    I joined a company recently ,they have created a new PF number for me and I have given my UAN number to them.
    Now can I withdraw my previous PF account amount?

    So my question If 2 PF numbers are linked to one UAN number , can I withdraw the previous one..

    Thanks in advance..

  148. Suhdeer says:

    HI , i have a problem of Wrong name in my pf Account of UAN,Submitted Regional PF commisioner with the employer letter but no luck its passed 3 months …what should i do ?

    1. Hi Suhdeer

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  149. Bukkai says:

    Dear Manish,
    Recently I have joined a new company and my new PF is already linked with the UAN. In my previous company I had uploaded KYC details and same had been approved by the previous employer, Now in my current company do I need to upload again KYC details against the new PF ID and same needs approval with the current employer or not.

    1. Hi Bukkai

      This is very specific query which you should follow up with the concerned authority only. We wont be able to comment on that

      Manish

  150. AAcharya says:

    Dear Mr Manish
    Your website is really good and quite helpful. I was able to activate my docs and see KYC done from PF.
    My company has PF Trust and I cannot see PF balance online. Neither I get SMS on PF balance submission to Bank account. Could you please help on this?

    Regards, Acharya

    1. Hi AAcharya

      This is very specific query which you should follow up with the concerned authority only. We wont be able to comment on that

      Manish

  151. saurabh says:

    how to get est code??

    1. Its part of your EPF number

  152. Rohit says:

    I list my previous member id to my current UAN . Now please tell me how can i see my previous EPF passbook.

    1. Hi Rohit

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

      1. arasu says:

        what is meant by RTI roure

  153. Saranya says:

    Hi ..I left my previous organization on june 2008 and still didnt transfer/withdraw my PF money, currently im working with different organization and if i provide my UAN details to my previous employer..Will they transfer my PF money to my current EPF..Please help me on this.

    1. Yes, if your UAN becomes active, then the transfer may happen

      1. Surendrapal says:

        Saran, first of all create an account in OTCP ( online transfer claim portal) then you can proceed with transfer claim with your previous or present employer who is having a digital signature. Hope this will help you.

  154. manas says:

    i want to work at 2 different establishment at a time, is it possible to operate with one uan?

  155. SunilMore says:

    My mother retired in September, 2015. She needs to transfer her EPF from previous employer (old EPF) to new employer which should have UAN no. If she is able to transfer her old EPF to new account can she withdraw all the money using new online system? Thanks.

      1. Velmurugan says:

        Can you please tell me the procedure to withdraw online, I have UAN active and all KYC like PAN, Aadhar and Bank account are approved status. Still I could not able to find in the UAN login about the online widrwal submission

  156. rai says:

    Hi how can I withdraw my pf online

  157. Kalpana says:

    Hiii.. iam trying to activate my UAN numberbut, i am not getting Authorization PIN number to my mobile infact, i am clicking on GET PIN but still i am not getting PIN num to my Mobile.

    1. Hi Kalpana

      You need to keep in mind following points

      1. You need to fill up form 19 and give it to EPFO to withdraw your EPF

      2. You should reach out to your employer in case you dont have UAN number

      3. To make any changes in your UAN details, you can either do it online yourself by making a login or ask your employer to do that.

      4. IN case of any other queries, I suggest to do RTI with EPFO with your queries

      Manish

  158. madhulina says:

    Hi Team,

    I left an organisation in Sept 2014 and i found out that company have not tagged my PF account to my UAN. Is there anyway i can tag that PF to my UAN? If not how the tagging should take place, can you please guide me.

    1. Raghuveer says:

      same problem for me also. If you found any solution, please share with me.

    2. No , it can only be done by the employer !. If you dont have the UAN tagged with PF, then you will have to process the withdrawal offline

  159. Manas says:

    Cahuhan Sahab, Namaskar

    Thank you for sharing such valuable information and providing a common platform.

    Sir, My wife was working with HCL Noida, sec-21 from 2010 to 2011.
    due to illness, she did not attend office and it was informed to her project lead by company mail id.
    unfortunately, that project lead was travelling abord and forgotten to forward to HR section.
    on third day, my wife got a mail that, no need to come to office from tomorrow and you have been terminated.
    since then, she stopped going office.

    Then HCL had sent so many letter to me, as I was the guardian and guaranteer, saying that
    she has left the job within 1 year of appointment and I have to pay entire training cost of 1 lac 35K something.

    Neither I replied nor I paid the amount. because HCL had seized HCL mail id of my wife and there was no means to retrieve any of the communication made. Therefore difficult to prove .

    since then, She has not joined and organisation so far. That time UAN system was not there. We know only the EPF A/C no.

    Please guide me, process to withdrawal of EPF in this case

  160. AashishKoul says:

    Great information!! The clarity with which it flows is awesome. I have shared it further wil many of my collegeagues!
    God Bless you. Keep going.

    1. Glad to know that AashishKoul ..

  161. Satya says:

    Dear Sir,

    My friend who is now in UAE, earlier (1 1/2 yr) having UAN no, prior to UAN no, he is having 3 accounts.
    Shall we apply online that 3 accounts into UAN account. is it possible.or not?

    1. You cant do it online . YOu need to withdraw your funds offline only by fillign up form 19

  162. murali says:

    Request for UAN for this Member Id TNMAS00516210000003542 is already under process.(through ECR)
    Showing from past 4 months I have worked only 5 months ,I left the job on October,, plz suggest me.

    1. Hi murali

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  163. Ravikanth says:

    Dear Sir,
    I would like to quit my job & join another hiding the previous employer details..can this be possible..? Is there any provision to do so
    ..also does UAN reveal any information about your establishment
    ..

    1. Hi Ravikanth

      Thanks for asking your question. However we do not have answer to your question.

      Manish

  164. Venugopal says:

    I have uploaded my KYC documents in UAN portal and the same has been approved by the employer.
    But when i send the SMS to 7738299899 with EPFOHO UAN ENG.
    I got a reply from DZ-EPFOHO that my aadhar not available, PAN not available, Kindly register your KYC through employer to get contribution details and future services.
    Although I have all my documents uploaded and approved by employer.
    Thanks
    Venu

    1. Hi Venugopal

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

      1. BYJU says:

        Kindly check the KYC status in your UAN portal.If the status shows pending for approval by employer ,intimate the same to your employer for approving thr KYC.If you are getting the same message even after approval by employer,file a complaint via EPF grievance cell.

  165. Anand says:

    Hi,

    I left my previous Organization on May 09, 2015, and Joined a new organization in May 11, 2015. I shared my UAN number with the new organization. Now I want to withdraw my PF from the old organization. But read that now we cannot withdraw the PF if we join a new Organization within 2-3 months. So please advice is there is any way to withdraw the old PF.

    Regards,
    Anand Sri Bhattacharya

    1. You can withdraw the old PF only by offline method as far as I know

      1. BYJU says:

        On switching jobs, an employee can apply for transfer of money from the EPF account through a form which is filled by the employee and attested by the designated authority at the employer.

        Withdrawal of money from the account in between two jobs is illegal and is permissible only under the following two circumstances:
        >When a member is in between two jobs >If the member has been unable to find another job for over two months

        1. Glad to know that BYJU ..

  166. Chhinmay Sangoram says:

    Was working with a Pune based company. Quit my job in Sept 2015. Did not furnish my existing UAN. Can I ask this employer to directly transfer the PF amount to my UAN?

    1. Yes, you can give the UAN to him and they will do the rest

  167. varadharajan says:

    I have discontinued my job before 6 months. i applied for withdraw my PF money but the employer didnt approved.
    i know my UAN as well as PF number.

    I have uploaded my KYC documents scanned copy in UAN portal. but Still now its status showing “PENDING”.. what will be my next step?
    pls anyone help me

    1. Hi varadharajan

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  168. joginadham says:

    Dear Sir,

    I am Mr. joginadham and i have a UAN number of my previous Employer and now i have changed to another plant . they are provided a new pf number to me. So i want to add my new pf account to previous UAN. can u please explain the procedure and send the link.

    Thank you…..

    1. Hi joginadham

      I am going to write an article very soon on this topic. Please wait till then ..

      Manish

      1. NITIN says:

        Hello Manish,

        I had a previous active UAN , but while joining the new company they provided another UAN ,when asked they asked me to file a transfer from previous to current pf account through physical form transfer and because of that only one UAN wil be active . I want to know which of the UAN will be active and when will the transfer happen , howmany days it takes . ??

        1. The current one given to you will be active one ..

  169. vishal2187 says:

    Hi ,

    I would like to inform you that , my current employer has provided me a New UAN number .

    I already had a UAN number which was provided to me by my previous Employer . Now I have 2 UAN numbers . Can you please let me know , what need to be done so that i Can have 1 UAN number & 2 PF accounts under it

    Please provide the resolution at the earliest . I was not aware , that on joining new organization , i have to provide UAN number & neither they asked me also.

    1. BSK says:

      Vishal

      You can send a mail to UAN help desk stating that you have two UAN’s. They will verify and block old one and active new UAN.

    2. Hi Vishal

      I am going to write an article very soon on this topic. Please wait till then ..

      Manish

  170. Piyush says:

    Hello Manish,

    My wife worked for one company from Jan 2011 till August 2011 and one PF account was created, She then joined back the same company in January 2013 after a gap of 1.5 years but this time the company created a new PF account for her. She has now again taken a break after working for 2 and half years and does not intent to work anymore.
    THE UAN is attached with the second PF account and now the problem is that the UAN portal is not allowing us to add the previous PF account number is the UAN portal and giving an error that the previous and current employer can not be same.

    Now we are totally confused how to go about it and how can withdraw money from our first and second PF account.

    Can you or BJYU provide some insight into this.

    1. Will do an article on this asap ..

      1. Piyush says:

        Hi Manish,

        Your help on my earlier query would be really helpful. Can you share what exactly should i do as we are not able to start a withdrawal process.

        1. Hi Piyush

          Even I am not very clear on that. You might want to check with EPFO using RTI for this.

  171. Pratik says:

    Hi Manish,

    I worked for an organisation from Jan’15 to May’15, and joined another from June’15.
    My UAN was generated by my first organisation. Now I want my current organisation to use the same UAN. What should I do?
    What if they have already requested for a new UAN, as I did not provide them with my first UAN?

    1. I will do an article on this very soon .. please wait till then

  172. Bharat says:

    Dear sir,
    I activated the UAN online and downloading my passbook than its showing only 12000 in my PF account but my company deducting PF from my salary since last 2 year, when I coordinated in my office in account department than they told me that they are submitting my PF on monthly basis but they didn’t update on website that’s why your passbook showing less balance.
    sir i am little bit confused in same and please let me know why this happening ? according to me balance should be more then 45000 in my PF account and but showing only 12000 ?
    # when i ask for a closing my PF account in my office then they told me ” I can not close PF account entire life and this is minatory for employer. (Please let me know he is right and i cannot close my PF account or stop my pf deduction from my salary )
    now a days my office deduction 3700 / month from my salary this is hug amount for me.
    please suggest me that how can I get right status of PF balance and is any procedure to stop PF deduction from my salary?

    Regards
    Bharat

    1. Hi Bharat

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

      1. BYJU says:

        EPF contribution is compulsory for those who are drawing salary (Basic +DA) up to 15000 and for others it is optional.But once it is deducted it should be continued until his retirement.minimum amount should be deducted is 12% of BAsic +DA and an equivalent amount should be contributed by the employer also.
        Now a days EPF contribution is remitting through ECR(Electronic Challan cum return),which includes the employee wise details ,their EPF wages and contribution .
        So in your case you can ask the copy of the ECR in which your amount is included and remitted from your joining.With the help of that u can calculate your contribution till date and file a complaint to EPF office also.

  173. Om says:

    Hello sir actually I have a problem which is I did a job in one organisation there they created a epf account and i have got a UAN number. Now I want to change my job and I want to join as a fresher over there is it possible to hide my current UAN and epf account info so that I wl not to worry abt my old employer NOC documents which i dont have. I don’t want that last account. What should I do for that.
    Also i want to ask abt the UAN documents which are required to submit to new employer
    Pls help me

    1. The new employer will give you the new UAN , you can use that one . For documentation purpose , they will ask for PAN, address proof etc !

      1. Om says:

        Thx for u r reply,
        Sir on EPFO website I have read that UAN is unique no, and it wl remain same through the career .
        so I want to ask, wl there be any problems while generating new UAN as my old UAN is generated using my PAN CARD info.

        Pls help.

        1. Hi Om

          I am going to write an article very soon on this topic. Please wait till then ..

          Manish

      2. akmal says:

        hi manish
        my name is akmal i work for the company bjn group of hotel but now it is closed down when i left the job i eas shifted to my village when i return from there it was shut down and i dont have any pf no or ny salary slip from where shuold i got my pf money it almost past 4/5year plz help me out how shoud i got my money my caontact ni is 7208881161

        1. You can contact EPFO and get your EPF

  174. Srikanth says:

    Hi,

    I have a UAN and activated it. My query is till now I have 15 months PF balance but when I check my PF balance in UAN site it is showing only 14 months balance instead of 15 months. When I check last month it shows 13 months balance instead of 14 months balance. How long it will take to update correct data or else I need to contact EPFO office directly?

    1. BYJU says:

      U can file complaints through EPF website..

      1. Srikanth says:

        I raised a complaint on this through EPF site.

        1. BYJU says:

          EPF PAYMENTS ARE BEING MADE ON 15 TH OF NEXT MONTH.ONCE THE PAYMENT IS BEING MADE IT WILL TAKE MINIMUM 10 DAYS TO GET UPDATE THE BALANCE IN E-PASS BOOK.HENCE I THINK NOW YOUR PASSBOOK IS SHOWING A BALANCE UP TO AUG i.e AUG PAID IN SEP

          1. Srikanth says:

            Here the problem is I joined in an org. on 1st week of July 2014 and I got pay slip for July 2014. But in E-Passbook July 2014 PF showing as Aug 2014 and Aug 2014 PF showing as Sep 2014 and so on it continued and missed recent pay slip.

            1. BYJU says:

              Yeah …It is right.Because EPF passbook is updating based on the date of paymnet.Suppose July EPF contribution is remitting on or before 15th Aug .So the Passbook will show the July balance in Aug only.
              Byju V
              9440000484

            2. BSK says:

              If suppose I will resign the job in Nov 2014 and join in another org Dec 2014. in that case Nov 2014 PF will show as Dec 2014 under this employer and Dec 2014 PF for new employer will show as Jan 2015 under new employer?

            3. BYJU says:

              YES
              as you are remitting the amount in DEC only

    2. It means the last month was not yet updated . Use RTI to check the exact status

  175. Geetha says:

    Hello sir actually I have a problem which is I did a job in one organisation there they created a epf account and i have got a UAN number. Now I want to change my job and I want to join as a fresher over there is it possible to create a new epf account. I don’t want that last account. What should I do for that. Pls help me

    1. BYJU says:

      one solution is available for this.It is better not to inform about your last EPF acount to your present employer.Let them open a new account.After getting the new account number you can transfer your old EPF account through your Previous employer by submitting Form 13 to EPFO

    2. Yes it is possible , Just dont tell employer that you got old UAN

  176. Gobinda says:

    hi,
    My query is, i have UAN no. now i want 2 change job and after 1 year i will join a new job so it’s possible to continue last UAN no.
    after left job how much day valid UAN no.

    1. Yes you can use the same UAN

    2. BYJU says:

      Submit FORM 11 to the new employer after joining

  177. BYJU says:

    I have read all the queries and am working in an organization dealing EPF .So as per my experience all are requested to activate your present EPF number with the latest UAN allotted and submit FORM 13 either to your present employer or previous employer foR verification and signature .Once signed submit the same to EPF office .To expedite the transfer better to submit the Form 13 to previous employer and get the signature .

    1. Thanks for sharing that BYJU

  178. Sharath says:

    Sir,
    While activating my UAN number online, I have put my EPS number in member ID instead of putting my PF number.
    Now, my EPS number is linked to my UAN. I want to link my EPF number to my UAN. What should I do?

    1. Hi Sharath

      Your cases is a bit complex and I think we are not the right people to comment on it.

      My suggestion would be hire someone who is professional in this area and consult them

      Manish

    2. Hi Sharath

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

      1. BYJU says:

        HI Manish I think and as per my knowledge EPF number and EPS number both are same.Normally EPF number is giving my the Employer only which will act as both EPF and EPS number.UAN is linked with EPF number and not with EPS number if any.So Sharat’s doubt is not clear

        1. Yes, the numbers are same

  179. Mayank says:

    Hi,

    I joined an organization and worked there for more than 2 years they allotted me a UAN no, but later on I have left this organization due to some reason and after 2 months I rejoined the same organization but instead of using the already allotted UAN no they created a new UAN no for me, now what should I do. Now finally I have joined a new organization and have given them the latest UAN allotted to me by my older organization when I joined the 2nd time. I want to know how can I transfer money between these two UAN. Please help.

    1. I think you should leave the old UAN and use the new one

  180. Hemant says:

    I have the UAN number and I logged into the UAN member portal few times.
    Now I forgot my password and my contact number is also changed. I no longer have the access to the mobile number which is registered with my UAN so can not use the ‘Forgot Password’ functionality available on the UAN member portal. Can you please let me know how can I change my password ?

    1. Hi Hemant

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  181. Rahul says:

    Hi Manish,

    I have worked with 3 different companies till now and going to join 4th one in december. I have my UAN with me and uploaded AADHAAR as KYC but its still pending.
    Also, I linked all my 3 PF accounts but I’m neither able to check my PF balance, nor I’m able to know if I can withdraw or transfer money to my account.
    UAN was generated by my first employer and that too this year only. This whole process is very confusing and guidelines are not proper.
    Can you help me here?

    Thanks & Regards
    Rahul Joshi

    1. Hi Rahul

      Thanks for asking your question. However we do not have answer to your question.

      Manish

  182. divya says:

    I received UAN from my employer but it is showing some one’s details. How can I resolve this. Please help me

    1. Hi divya

      This is very specific query which you should follow up with the concerned authority only. We wont be able to comment on that

      Manish

      1. BYJU says:

        Divya you verify your UAN number with the one given by your employer.Now employee (Member) himself can get the UAN number by giving his EPF account number.
        http://uanmembers.epfoservices.in/check_uan_status.php

  183. UmeshPimpale says:

    I got UAN number from my previous employer. I changed my job 6 months ago, they provide me new PF number. I don’t have any idea on whether they link this PF account to my existing UAN or not? How can i verify PF accounts related to UAN? Thanks in advance.

    1. Hi UmeshPimpale

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

    2. BSK says:

      Umesh

      You can check the PF number in UAN site which is linked or not. If it is not linked to the UAN you can link the same through UAN site only.

  184. Madhavi says:

    Hello Manish Sir,

    I have left my job and do not intend to work in near future, also I have worked for more than 5 years. And resigned in nov 2013. I have submitted my form 19, but the authorities are asking for UAN and KYC number.
    Should they be asking me these details? A

    1. KYC and UAN are new additions to the system .. You can tell them you didnt get it . Have you got it from your employer ?

  185. Teena says:

    Dear Sir, Now am having two UAN numbers corresponding to previous and current job. how can i delete one of my accounts ? Can u please explain the procedure and send related links

    1. I am doing an article on this. Will update on blog soon

    2. BSK says:

      Teena,

      You can send a mail to UAN help desk stating that your two UAN no’s they will verify and block old UAN and kept active new UAN.

  186. prakash says:

    Dear Sir,

    I worked in one of the pvt company from 2009 to 2012 becoz of company problem i have left and company not cleared or paid the PF amount update but now they are cleared the PF payment so is it possible for me to withdraw the PF & is it UAN is necessary for withdrawing the PF. Please guide me sir…

    1. No . UAN is not mandatory to withdraw the EPF. You can just fill the EPF withdrawal form and give it to EPFO !

      1. Vamshi krishna says:

        Dear sir,
        This is Vamshi krishna
        When I apply my epf throw my employer.My epf claim was rejected by epfo and said that “your epf claim has not accepted due to UAN is not created and great uan and inform to your epmloyer to apply the clime”.
        I am not understandin why epf is become this much complegated.
        Please reply me sir

        1. How did you apply for withdrawal ? Was it online ?

  187. Nagarjun says:

    Dear Sir,

    I am Mr. Nagarjun and i have a UAN number of my previous Employer and now i have changed to another plant . they are provided a new pf number to me. So i want to add my new pf account to previous UAN. can u please explain the procedure and send the link.

    Thank you…..

    1. I will write an article on this and post it soon

  188. preety says:

    With the help of UAN No. can my current employer know about the details of my previous employer name, joining and leaving details etc….

  189. Raj says:

    Hi Manish,

    I was working for a company for three years, and i resigned recently to take up a job abroad. I have an amount in my epf to be withdrawn.

    I have an UAN number for my epf, which is activated and working.

    Can i withdraw my epf without the employer’s sign on my forms? Reason being they are not co-operating with me because of the notice period issue when i left them.

    Does having the UAN number enable you to withdraw your epf and pension money without the employers sign?

    If you could kindly answer.

    Regards

    1. MOstly yes, because it directly goes to EPFO . However I am not sure if they will notify your employer or not. But anyways try it !

  190. Pritam says:

    With the help of UAN No. can my current employer know about the details of my previous employer( like joining or leaving the previous company) ?

  191. Roshini says:

    I(Roshini) couldn’t activate my new UAN (Generated by Present Employer) in the portal because it is showing that my mobile number is already registered with another UAN (Generated by previous Employer). I want the New UAN to be activated.

    Could you please check and help me with this.

    1. I am writing a detailed article on this topic soon . Wait for it

      1. Roshini says:

        Thank you Manish.

        Please do notify me.

        Thanks,
        Roshini

    2. BSK says:

      Hi Roshini,

      UAN is generated only once which constant through out career. When you change job you can link the PF member id to the UAN through the employer. There is no need to activate new UAN.

  192. guru says:

    Hi,
    2 queries.
    1) I have two PF account mapped to two different UAN (both UAN are active).
    Now how can I bring it under 1 UAN, Already this question asked. But I need solution.
    Please help.

    2) Also previous employer is not responding to any of my queries/help. KYC approval pending from previous employer. So is there a way to transfer my previous PF account money to current company without talking to previous company?

    Regards,
    Guru

    1. Hi guru

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  193. nipuldas says:

    I have two UAN from my previous and new employer. Now what can i do?

    1. I writing a detailed article on this . You will have to wait till then

  194. Siva says:

    Hi,
    Can you plz tell me the difference between EPF and PPF is dr tax exemption for both, then how can i invest extra amount in them..?

    1. Yes they have tax exemption on maturity and on investment both !..

      1. siva says:

        Are both ppf and epf same….

        1. No , they are both different things and have no relation to each other

  195. Muhukumar says:

    I activated the UAN with my previous EPF account and i got an UAN. Now if i check the status of my UAN for my current job (which i joined a year back) it says, its under process through ECR. What does that mean ? Did i do anything wrong ? How to remove a EPF account under an UAN ?

    1. Hi Muhukumar

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  196. Ashok says:

    Hi,

    In future when we need to withdraw the amount from all Member ID’s which are linked with UAN. Please suggest the process for the same. Because in last 4 year it’s my third company and i am 26 year old, if i think about after 34 year, how i’ll be able to withdraw the amount from all Member ID’s.

    Thanks,
    ashok

    1. Hi Ashok

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  197. vivek says:

    Hi,

    I got the message saying that”your UAN has been activated with password”, But I dont know my UAN no. Whom to i contact to get the UAN no.

    Thanks,
    Vivek

    1. Check with your employer first . they have that information

  198. arnab says:

    I need to correct the spelling for my name in UAN database , my employer suggest i should complete registration first and then go for correction. But i am hesitant to tick the box stating “all above data are correct….. “, as it could lead to complication. What should i do go for registration or go for name change first. ?

    1. I think your employer is right . THe updation is the next step . First go ahead with registration !

  199. Reju says:

    Hi Manish,

    My previous company’s PF was handled by a Trust & not EPFO. When I try to get my UAN details using the PF #, I get the error message “Member ID XXXXXXXXXXXX does not exist in member master.”. I have the same problem when I tried to transfer my PF from previous employer to current employer online.

    Can you let me know how to solve this issue?

    Regards
    VK Reju

    1. Hi Reju

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  200. GOPI says:

    hai, i’am working in same concern in last 5 years. still i can’t receive my UAN number, i checked with epf site its mentioned in your UAN number is already activated and send it detail’s in my registered mobile number. But cannot receive any details in my mobile number. in case any chance in my another mobile number register this pf details.
    pls tell me.

    1. I think your employer will be able to help you on this .

  201. vinay says:

    Hi,

    My certificates have 1988 as date of birth. and pan card is with 1989. My first company considered 1988 as my Date Of Birth . And UAN number also generated for me here .

    Now i changed job, new company considering 1989 as my date of birth. and they are asking my previous UAN number. Can i give it to them. or can i request them to generate new by considering this is my first job(even it is not)

    Please help me.

    1. There is no rule on this . Its upto the employer as of now on how they want to do that.

  202. SHUBHAM says:

    I am not getting the pin. i tried doint it thrice.

  203. Raj says:

    HI,One year before i worked in a company they created a UAN account for me but i dont know my UAN number . Before creating that UAN i quit from that company with out giving information, now its possible to know my UAN number with out contacting to that employer is there any way to know if any one knows please share to me. my email id ssc1986@rediff.com

    1. Hi Raj

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  204. Karishma says:

    I forget my UAN password…
    I havnt get any sms for reset password after clicked forgot login and fill th details.. What can i do know?

    1. The system has some issue I guess. I suggest use the RTI in this case

  205. Utkarsh says:

    Hi, I have two PF account under to different UAN (both UAN are active). Is it possible that I can transfer or link both PF account under only one UAN and what will happen to other UAN then ? Please reply

    1. I think linking them is not possible as per UAN structure !

      1. Utkarsh says:

        Hi Manish,

        Yes you are right but I found out that blocking old UAN No. by requesting on EPFO website. The old UAN can be deactivated and PF account can be transfered then to New UAN.
        Thanks for reply.

        1. Roshini says:

          Hello Sir,

          Can you please share the steps/ procedure you did to deactivate your Old UAN.

          Thanks in advance.

          Regards,
          Roshini

  206. Nidhi says:

    Hi Manish,

    My Ex-employer has uploaded the wrong KYC document for Bank Number.And it’s showing under approved KYC listings.

    I don’t find any option to upload bank details again in UAN Portal.

    1.Do the employer only can upload new Bank details again?
    2.Bank details registered in UAN portal will only be used for withdrawl purpose ?
    I just wanted to know if bank details can’t be rectified then what will be the impact.

    1. I think you can upload it, but approval will happen from employer side

      Yes, bank will be used for withdrawal mainly !

  207. Rajendra Rathore says:

    Hi,

    I want to modify date of birth in UAN details becuase by mistake i put wrong date of birth during UAN activation.

    Can you please let me know how i can update my date of birth In UAN Details.

    Thanks,
    Rajendra

    1. I think you should talk to your employer on this

  208. Ngaesh says:

    Hi Mohit,

    I have 3 UAN, what to do?
    is there any way out?

    1. HOw did 3 UAN got generated ? I suggest just use one of them and ignore rest of them

  209. Neha says:

    Hi,
    I have activated my UAN number as my account is created. In KYC details, there are documents uploaded by my employer, and their status is Approved by Employer. Do I need to submit the documents again?
    Also, I have changed my Last name after marriage which I have got updated on Passport and PAN card as well as in Employer database. Can you tell me the process to update the same in EPFO database?As per website, my employer should do the same,but employer telling me to go to UAN help portal. And on trying to raise the issue on UAN portal, I am getting an error, UAN not yet activated.
    I have checked my UAN status through link provided by you in Step 1 above, and there I am getting message – UAN already activated.
    So, is it mandatory to upload KYC documents again to get it activated?
    Please guide accordingly.
    Thanks in Advance

    1. Hi Neha

      I think you should ask to employer directly on this.

  210. RAhul says:

    Hi, I joined a company recently 2 months ago which is my first comapny. My EPF account hasn’t been opened yet. So if I leave the company then would how can I get the EPF money which would have been deposited. Anyone please help.

    1. Rahul

      You should have EPF account number with you first. Then you can apply for withdrawal. Ask your employer why is he not giving you yet ?

      1. RAhul says:

        Thanks for reply. But someone told me that your first EPF account is opened only if you work in your first company for minimum 6 months. Is it true.

        1. As far as I know its not true !

  211. Ashish kamal says:

    Hi I am noy able to login to my UAN even i am trying to for forgot password it is sending message but i am not able to recieve any information on my registered mobile no can you give some help in that case

    1. Hi Ashish kamal

      This is very specific query which you should follow up with the concerned authority only. We wont be able to comment on that

      Manish

  212. Elango says:

    In my previous employment I have withdrawn my PF amount and received a Pension certificate which may be payable after Year 2025. Currently from my new employer I have a seperate PF account and UAN number. Is it possible to add my previous EPF pension scheme contribution alone ( as i have withdrawn my PF amount) with my UAN.

    1. Hi Elango

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  213. Neha says:

    Hi Manish,

    I switched job two years back, but still haven’t withdrawn/transferred my PF. I’m now working somewhere else. Is it possible to withdraw my PF? I don’t want to transfer it.

    Thanks,
    Neha

  214. Mahavir says:

    Dear,
    I have transfer all previous company pf in present pf account using UAN account. but EPS amount have not been transferred .how i can known total amount balance in EPS

    1. Hi Mahavir

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  215. Lakshman says:

    Hi,

    I do not want to disclose my previous employment and want to join as a fresher in the new organization.

    But I have allotted with UAN. Is it possible to do so. Is there any problem if do not share my previous employment details because of UAN

    Is to possible to get allotted with new UAN.

    Kindly answer this question.This is very much necessary for me..

    Thanks
    Lakshman

    1. If you give them UAN, then problem is how did you get the UAN when you are new employee ?

  216. ramana says:

    Hi Manish,
    After checking status it provided me with my member id asking to provide further details, when i enter my name, DoB and all details, my name and DoB are not matching, actually i don’t remember with what exact name i had registered,
    i don’t know what to do, can you help me ??
    thanks in advance.

    1. Hi ramana

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  217. Ramshankar says:

    I’ve two UANs from my current employer and previous employer. Is it possible to merge both?

    1. Hi Ramshankar

      This is very specific query which you should follow up with the concerned authority only. We wont be able to comment on that

      Manish

  218. Rahul says:

    Hi,

    I changed my job and got my PF transferred. What about EPS (Pension scheme) which is a part of EPF? Will the EPS amount also get tranferred when you tranfer your PF account?

    1. Yes, if you had filled the form for that , it would have got transferred

  219. Manoj kumar bajpai says:

    If different employer generate two different uan no. a person which problem create in future

  220. Dipankar says:

    When i enter my PF account it shows that your UAN number is under process through ECR. Please lets me know the meaning of this. Whem i will get my UAN no.

    1. Hi Dipankar

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  221. Patitapaban says:

    Hi,

    May I know How to link the account in PF?

    How to link one Account with other Account? Thanks

    1. Hi Patitapaban

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  222. Aniz says:

    Greetings sir,
    How shall I check if all my employees have activated their UAN or not. I have instructed them how to do so. but it will be helpful if I can find out who are all yet to activate UAN as there are large number of employees in our organisation.
    Thank you.

  223. puja says:

    Dear sir,
    I was working in a private company for about 3 years.Now i’m going to join at a new company.Now i came to know that the previous company have not uploaded my P.F money in my account but the company deducted all the p.f money monthly regularly and also indicated the same in my salary slip.They also not tell me to open the UAN . Can i create the UAN in my new company or it may create any prolem.Now i want to create a new EPF in new company.Can it be possible according to the present rules and regulations.Plz tell me soon.its urgent.

    1. subhash says:

      Hi
      we have issue new uan our employee but already issue UAN by previous employer can be merge the both

    2. You should first file a complaint to POLICE on this !

  224. Srikanth Borra says:

    Is there any chance to get hard copy of UAN Card like PAN Card, Voter Card or else we need to download from the UAN site only?

    1. I am not very sure on that

  225. Madhavi says:

    Hi, this is Madhavi from nellore. i uploaded Adhar card scand copy in UAN.it came save the detains..whr is my Adhar card deltainls in UAN

    1. Hi Madhavi

      This is very specific query which you should follow up with the concerned authority only. We wont be able to comment on that

      Manish

  226. Hemant says:

    Hi Manish,
    I have received my UAN number from my employer.When I click on get pin option following fields are prepopulated
    1. My Name
    2.My Father’s name
    3.My Date of Birth (but the populated DOB is wrong )
    What is the procedure to corrected that?
    Thanks in advance!!!

    1. You should talk to your employer to fix that

  227. Mohit says:

    Hi Manish,
    My previous employer has provided me UAN and I have activated it. I have uploaded some KYC document but it is showing rejected by employer now.
    I tried to transfer online it shows “Member id not available on portal”.
    I want to add my new EPF account to my UAN, can you please suggest some steps?

    1. Hi Mohit

      I think you will get the exact answer only from employer !

  228. Jitesh says:

    Hi Manish,

    I am working in a MNC, which i joined recently (4 months back). I am going to switch my job, my current company applied for UAN number, I checked it on government website and it’s saying “Request for UAN for this Member Id BGBNG00XXXXXXXXXXX is already under process.(through ECR)”.

    Now my questions are below:
    1. Will this UAN process while i switch my company ?
    2. Which UAN number, i will provide to my company ? Or will they raise a new request for PF and UAN ?
    3. I already have a PF account number of my first company (Initial company) . If UAN number will create, Can i link that PF account also with it ?
    4. Is there any problem during link with UAN, If my PF account number from different state ?

    Your effort will truly appreciated.

    Regards,
    Jitesh

    1. I think these points are already discussed in the article itself

  229. praveenkumar says:

    from which year UAN number is applicable,if employee is not giving then can we get UAN number from website.please reply.

    1. Hi praveenkumar

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  230. Rakesh says:

    I have EPF and UAN no. with previous org. but somehow current org. created new UAN no. for me. So, what to do next plz suggest..

    1. I am planning to write detailed article on this . Please wait for it

  231. Azhar says:

    Hi Manish,

    About a year back I joined a new company, the new company got my new PF account created.
    The new company hasn’t allotted any UAN to me.
    Around 2 months back I received my UAN from my previous organization.

    I want to link my new PF account with the UAN that I have received. I have mailed the new company HR to link my new PF account with the UAN I received but I guess they are not aware how to get it done.

    Please could you explain me how can it be done?
    Can I myself do it through some portal without depending on HR? OR how should the HR get it done?
    Any clues appreciated.

    Thanks & Regards.

    1. Hi Azhar

      I am planning a detailed article on this topic. Wait for it

  232. Ankush says:

    Hi
    My last org. had issued me a UAN.
    I have given my UAN to my current org & i am able to list down PF of my two org in UAN portal
    Do i need to apply for transfer of PF account from last to current or it will be automatically done?

    Thanks in advance.

    1. It will be automatically done

  233. suresh says:

    Dear sir & Madam
    My UAN Password was missing how to create the new password Please help to me

    1. You can do it online from UAN website

  234. padam says:

    Hello Manish ,

    Iam ragister with UAN member ID but i cant download my E-Passbook iam just click on Download E Passbook their is a msg that service are unavailable due to heavy workload kindly try after some time . inconvenience is regretted.

    please suggest

    1. Hi padam

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  235. Pratyush says:

    Hi Team,
    I have been given UAN number from my previous employer(EPF account with this employer is already linked). Now, As mentioned i have changed the organisation. Here i have again given a new EPF account. Now i have to link this new account to my already existing UAN number. Please help me out. On how can i link my new EPF account with already existing UAN number.

    Thanks in advance !!!
    Pratyush

    1. You need to check this with your employer only

  236. K,Vishwanath says:

    Hello,
    I have activated my UAN with my previous employer EPF id. Now, I was trying to link the UAN with my current employer PF id. But it is giving an error as” Previous DOB against the entered UAN doesn’t match the DOB entered against the present Member ID”.

    Please guide me how to solve this problem.

    Regards,
    K.Vishwanath.

    1. Hi K,Vishwanath

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  237. chandrakanth says:

    I got UAN number from the 2nd company and with draw the PF amount.
    3 rd company is from Jan 09 2015 to 22 July 2015 .But I have different PF number for this.
    Now I joined the new company and they asking that to provide the UAN number .
    Can I give the UAN which I got the 2 nd company and link with 3 rd company PF .

    Thanks
    Chandrakanth

    1. Madhu says:

      You should provide the Same UAN and Link with present employer

    2. Hi chandrakanth

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  238. Surya Prakash says:

    My previous company applied for UAN long back, but the status of UAN is showing as under process. Meanwhile I Joined new company in April, and my previous company is not responding for the UAN number which has to be generated from them. what shall I do?

    1. I think you will only get proper answer on this from your employer only !

  239. Ashish says:

    I got UAN number from previous company. Do I need to transfer the PF money to from my previous company to new company ? My current employer already linked current EPF account number to UAN.

    1. For older EPF , you will have to do it manually !

      1. Ashish says:

        Thank you.

  240. siva says:

    Hi sir/madam
    this is siva, initially i joined in one MNC company they gave UAN to me.
    Because of some severe health probelm , i left the company with out informing to them.

    after some months i want to join in new company with some fake exp, is there any problem if i joined in new company, according with UAN. Because in form 11 [DATE OF EXIT FOR PREVIOUS
    MEMBER ID (DD/MM/YYYY)] they gave like this.

    please help me.

    1. Hi siva

      Your cases is a bit complex and I think we are not the right people to comment on it.

      My suggestion would be hire someone who is professional in this area and consult them

      Manish

  241. raman says:

    I got the UAN number from my employer. While going throgh my details, I noticed my date of birth is wrongly entered by my employer. Also, no nomination is given. Kindly advice how to rectify this.

    1. Hi raman

      This is very specific query which you should follow up with the concerned authority only. We wont be able to comment on that

      Manish

  242. Manish says:

    Hi Manish,

    My mobile no which is registers in UAN Portal is not is service and also I forget my Password.
    so how could i recover my password or update my mobile with new no.

    Thanks
    Manish Kumar

    1. Hi Manish

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  243. AmitSharma says:

    Hi Manish,

    My EPF deduction was on till 2012. After that none of my employers have done it. I dont have an EAN number. HOw can I get this number and how can I withdraw my money now ? PLs guide.

    CHeers

    Amit

    1. Hi AmitSharma

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  244. AJay says:

    Hi,

    I have lost my registered mobile no. & forgot UAN login Password. Hence unable to Login. How can i update my new mobile no. before log in( is it possible by registered mail id or any other id proofs.). I have called UAN toll free no. 1800118005 several times but it is also not connecting. Also mailed to them but not getting any reply. Pls help me.

    Ajay Kumar
    9911385102

    1. Hi AJay

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  245. siva says:

    My new employer has given the unno number and my pf account is linked to it.My previous employer has his own pf trust. now to transfer the PF account from my old employer to new employer online i dont see the PF trust information in the EPFO database.

    How to transfer the PF account from private trust to EPFO

    1. Hi siva

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  246. Avik says:

    Hi,

    I am working with a MNC and I have also activated my UAN no as per the above process few months back. I have also checked the KYC section and found that employer has already updated my Pan card, Aadhar card and Salary account details there but no document has been uploaded by them. Not sure but I think for that reason my KYC process still pending. Also I have checked the passbook, account details section but unable found my passbook for EPFO and “no records found” message is coming there. Could you please advice whether I have to contact anyone for this reason?

    1. Hi Avik

      Not very sure on this . UAN system is vast and not aware of rules at this level

      1. Avik says:

        Ok. Thanks for the reply

  247. Sakshi says:

    I joined the new company around 5 months back. Now my both the PF Accounts (PF Account of previous organization and current Org. ) are linked to UAN.
    My last name in both the organizations are different (due to name change after marriage).
    I wanted to transfer my PF to new Organization . Could you please guide me the process of transfer. Do I have to submit the name change certificate or marriage certificate etc. while applying for PF Transfer.

    1. Yes, you might have to give the marriage certificate for the name change. Also note that as the EPF account were existing before UAN came into picture, you will have to transfer those EPF accounts in old manner by filling up the transfer forms and sending it to EPFO

  248. Happyinvest007 says:

    Thanks Manish for such a wonderful article on UAN.

    Hi All,
    I have one doubt –

    I have shifted job recently and yet to get my UAN from my present or previous employer. But I have EPF number from both the employer. In this case how I can transfer previous PF amount from earlier account to new PF account until I get UAN alloted? Can I follow “Online Transfer” facility.

    Please suggest.

    Thanks.

    1. No , old EPF accounts existing before UAN came, has to be transfer the old way !

      1. Happyinvest007 says:

        Sorry Manish, didn’t got your comment – “old way”. I think, as online transfer facility available to transfer so I can use to transfer old EPF amount to new EPF amount. Please help.

        And yes, the old EPF account exists before UAN came.

        1. As per my information, using UAN facility you can now transfer the money from old company to new company without doing any paper work , but that will be true only for those EPF accounts which were started after UAN facility. But if there is some EPF account which was there from last few years , then for that you will have to manually transfer it by filling up the form.

          Manish

          1. Happyinvest007 says:

            Thanks Manish for quick response.

            But I think actually it is different. Even if a person doesn’t have UAN number, he/she can use online transfer facility to transfer amount from old company to new company. Since I have started online transfer facility without UAN and it is now pending with my previous employer for verification. Even on EPFO site for Online transfer it never ask for UAN to enter.

            Please correct if its wrong.

            1. I believe you are correct. I was not aware of the online transfer facility actually myself, hence I didnt comment on that. I have seen some readers referencing about it . You can check on that yourself. I have limited knowledge on online transfer facility.

              Manish

  249. Mayur says:

    I have worked with an organization for 3 years. After leaving the previous job, I got a new job in one month. Now I want to withdraw my PF for my personal use which I do not want to mention it. Is there any such facility where I can withdraw my PF though I got my new job in next month.

    1. Mayur

      You can fill up the withdrawal form and send it to EPFO

  250. Rohan says:

    Thanks for this information :
    the issue i am facing is that : i have the UAN+PF number : but when i enter the information it did not work.
    So i checked on this site :
    https://uanmembers.epfoservices.in/check_uan_status.php
    it informs me that the UAN number is not alloted (though it is) :
    I am assuming i have to somehow link it through…
    Any information provide is appreciated – looking forward to your opinion on this.

    Regards
    Rohan Golwalkar

    1. Thanks for your comment Rohan

  251. Akshita says:

    Hi

    I logged in to the UAN portal provided by my previous organization. And I find that that name’s spelling is mentioned wrong there.What to do ? How does it affect my pf ?

    Please help.

    1. Hi Akshita

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  252. Amrut says:

    Hi Manish,

    I have UAN and my old epf is linked to UAN. I got my new epf account. Is it possible for me to do online transfer of my old epf to new epf.

    Thanks,
    Amrut

    1. Yes, you can transfer your old EPF to new EPF online . There is a facility for that here http://www.epfindia.com/employer_OTCP.html

      Manish

  253. RAVINDRAPATIL says:

    DEAR SIR,

    I HAVE TWO UAN NUMBERS. FIRST I HAVE GOT THROUGH MY PREVIOUS EMPLOYER AND SECOND I GOT BY PRESENT EMPLOYER (BY MISTAKE PRESENT EMPLOYER HAVE PUT FRESH EMPLOYMENT IN MY PREVIOUS EMPLOYMENT DETAILS). SO PLEASE HELP TO FIND OUT THE WAY IN THIS, BECAUSE ANYONE SHOULD HAVE ONLY SINGLE UAN; I GUESS. THANK YOU.

    1. Hi RAVINDRAPATIL

      This is very specific query which you should follow up with the concerned authority only. We wont be able to comment on that

      Manish

  254. RAJEEC says:

    Hi
    I have alloted 2 UAN number. I have two link two PF account/fund to 3rd company job. Please help in this regards
    email : rjadhav161@gmail.com

    1. Hi RAJEEC

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  255. Giri says:

    Hello Manish,

    I have got my UAN number from my previous employer and do I need to activate it. The current company where I am working I have not been allotted UAN number, so what I want to know is how do link my current companys PF account to the UAN acccount.

    Will I have to give the UAN no. which I got from my previous employer to my current employer and request them to link the current PF account to it and how much time will it get to linked or should I again wait for a new UAN no. to be allotted by my current employer.

    Also how will my current employer stop the process of new UAN no. getting allotted from the current PF account

    1. Giri

      Even if you get TWO UAN , still only one of them will be active at one point .

  256. Gurpreet says:

    Respected sir
    i worked in a pharma company for 2 years and 3 months and 6 months back i shifted my company when i called my previous company they said UAN no. is not generated against my pf account no. sir all i need is to get my pf amount transferred from my previous account to my new account, plz guide me what to do. even my new company sent kyc to my previous company but they rejected. Sir plz guide me what to do to get my pf amount transferred or should i withdraw my money without settlement with the company..

    1. Hi Gurpreet

      I am writing on this point in a detailed article. Will publish soon !

  257. ABHAY says:

    In case Employees date of birth will differ in both previous and present employer what to do?
    What happen when double UAN number will generate for a single employee

    1. In that case you first have to correct the Date of birth at one place

      Manish

  258. Shubham says:

    Dear Sir

    I have worked with an Organization for 3 months Feb-May 2014 and they have provided me Member ID.
    Due to some reason, I have left the job(due to some reason) and get my entire PF debited from my earlier PF Account.
    Now I am not aware of UAN nor my Former Employer told me and I am about to start new Job where I have not shown previous job details. Now when new Employer will open my PF Account is there any possibility that new Employer would get to know about previous Employment because of Seeding of any KYC like PAN Card which new Employer probably would use.
    Please do reply.

    1. No , employer wont come to know about past employment !

  259. Arunoday says:

    Hi Manish,

    When I check my UAN status it shows “Your UAN is allotted for Member ID XXXXXX Kindly provide following further details for verification. The UAN details shall be sent on your mobile on SMS.”

    After filling it shows your date of birth and Name did not match. What can be done with this problem.

    1. Hi Arunoday

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  260. KIRTI says:

    Hi,

    I have transferred for online transfer of PF. I chose attestation by my present employer. my present employer approved it. same has been verified by my previous employer. Now what is the next step to do?

    25 June 2015 Claim Form Submitted .
    01 July 2015 Claim Form Approved by Previous Employer .
    25 June 2015 Claim Form Approved by Present Employer

    1. Happyinvest007 says:

      Hi Kirti,

      Do you have UAN alloted?

    2. Hi KIRTI

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  261. ram says:

    Is there a freeze on PF withdrawal from Private PF trusts due to pending interest rate clarifications? My employer said so when I asked for withdrawal as I have left the company. Pls help

    1. Hi ram

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  262. Debasish says:

    Hello Sir,

    I am facing an issue which make me anxious regarding fund accumulated in my old PF account and linking my new PF account with my UAN. I am describing the situation as much as I can below:

    ====================================================================================
    I was working with a company till 2014, and was there for 4 years. I have my UAN linked with the PF account with this company.

    I joined a new company few months back. I received a new PF account number from the news company. I provided my UAN number to the company and they are claiming that they linked my previous UAn with this new PF account as well.

    Meanwhile, using http://memberclaims.epfoservices.in/, I claimed File transfer of my previous PF account to the new PF account and found that the file transfer is completed as per status by the EPFO concerned.

    My question is, still now in the UAN portal (uanmembers.epfoservices.in), with my UAN, I can view only my previous PF account details (though it is showing that all the funds available there is now transferred to somewhere else!!!!). There is no trace of my new PF account linked in this UAN number till now.

    I am a concerned as I can see my previous PF account is empty as the fund is transferred to somewhere else (should be to my new PF account!!), while there is no record of my new PF account in this UAN!!!
    =====================================================================================

    Please suggest me whether there is anything from my end I should do to
    1. Link the new PF account with the UAN number
    2. Check whether the funds in my previous PF account is actually transferred to the new PF account.

    Thanks and regards,
    Deb

    1. Hi Debasish

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  263. Elby says:

    Hi Sir,

    I joined in an new company and I got new PF number. How can I add my new PF number to the UAN ?

    1. At the moment u cant do it yourself . Wait for some months and it will get clear

  264. Sen says:

    Hi,

    I have withdrawn my PF in this financial year. I have came across the following info in our office mail. But i could not get the clear picture of it. Can u please explain me. Here is the info.

    1. Income Tax shall be deducted at source (TDS) at the time of withdrawal of the PF amount under following conditions :
    • If the amount is withdrawn before 5 years of service
    • The withdrawal amount is equal to or more than Rs. 30,000/-
    • If PAN submitted – TDS will be deducted @ 10%
    • If PAN is not submitted – TDS will be deducted @ the maximum marginal rate i.e. 34.608%

    1. If your Withdrawal amount is more than 30k and your number of years of service is less than 5 yrs, then 10% of it will be deducted and paid to govt as your tax for that year.

  265. Parag Nimbolkar says:

    Dear Manish,

    I have shifted by job 6 months ago. i have been provided with UAN number. can you please guide me what i need to do to transfer the money from my previous EPF account.

    1. Its already discussed in the article

  266. Suresh says:

    Hello Manish,

    Need a small help, i joined a new organization recently and am in a process of transferring PF online.I was able to pull my details correctly about my previous organization,name details …but when i try with new PF A/c no. given my current org, it pulls somebody’s elses information…in this case do i have to check with my current org or with EPFO ???

    Regards
    Suresh

    1. Check with both of them I suggest and use RTI here !

  267. rohit says:

    Hello Manish Ji,

    My previous company has own pf trust. I worked there from sept 2012 to feb 2015. They had allotted me UAN also.
    Nw I want to know…can I withdraw or transfer my pf online?
    Please guide about the procedure.
    I heard from friends that if I apply to withdrawal, trust takes too much time..more than year

    Plz advise

    1. No , for old EPF account you have to apply for withdrawal or transfer in old manner only !

  268. Anirban says:

    Hi Manish Sir,

    Every time I check for my UAN Status the following line appears ”Request for UAN for this Member Id GNGGN00250350000001075 is already under process.(through ECR)”.
    My HR Manager is not at all co-operative and I am pretty new to the professional world.
    Please guide and help.

    Thanks in Advance,
    Anirban Sengupta

    1. Hi Anirban

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  269. Raghavendra Singh says:

    Hi Manish,
    I have join new organization 10 months back. I had existing UAN from my last organization and got new PF account from present organization. would you please suggest me How to link existing UAN with present EPF account?

    Regards,
    Raghavendra Singh

    1. Its to be done by your employer , check with them on this

  270. Sneha says:

    Hi,
    My husband applied for his PF withdrawal in the month of December 2014 while switching his job,At that time he did not have his UAN.
    It’s been six months now, we did not get the amount. We tried checking the status of withdrawal through online, it says no record found.
    How can we track now?? Ur suggestions are highly appreciated.

    1. Hi Sneha

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  271. gaurav says:

    i have UAN from my previous company. I recently joined new company in january 2015 and they provided me pf account number. i can see pf balance on this new pf account number on epf website. However this pf number is not showing in my UAN log in . Still my old company member id is showing in my UAN login.

    Pl confirm.

    1. Hi gaurav

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  272. Vicky says:

    I have UAN generated from my previous employer. But my current employer is not able to link my current EPF account to this UAN number. (They receive an error indicating “Previous details against the entered UAN are incomplete, so the entered UAN cannot be linked to the current member id” ) I had uploaded KYC documents just after 2 months after leaving my previous employer.

    My question is, whose responsibility is to approve my KYC documents, who can assist me on this issue?

    1. Employer has to verify it . You can upload it yourself

    2. AG says:

      Hi Vicky,

      How did you get it resolved?
      I’m facing the same issue.

      Thanks in advance.

  273. Puneet says:

    Hi,
    In UAN portal when I was downloading my UAN card.I checked that My father name is same as my Name.They have put my name in place of father name column.How can i update this detail as I didn’t see any link or column to update these informations.

    Regards,
    Puneet

    1. Hi Puneet

      I am not clear if you can yourself change that details . Please check with EPFO on this through RTI

  274. Ankur says:

    Hi,
    I have been allowed UAN in my first company and my PF accumulated under that. After few time I joined second company but left within 3 months only. During those 3 months my new company have not asked about my UAN no. Now I joined third company and want my first and second company pf to be transferred here.

    Kindly suggest what should I do at this point of time?

    1. First talk to your third employer about UAN

  275. hitesh says:

    in how much time the pf amount is double.

  276. Nagendraprasad says:

    Hi
    Previous company did not create uan they create my PF account at that time my date of birth wrong am also withdrew that wrong date of birth used that time. Now I joined new company original date of birth they are asking old PF number I now that wrong date of birth my new company cratering uan number at that time showing my old date of birth any issues will get I loses my job please advise please
    Thank you
    Prasad

    1. Hi Nagendraprasad

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  277. kiruthika says:

    Hi Manish ,
    I decided to take a break and resigned my job a month before, not working currently now. My question here is How do I get the money back from my PF Account. Read it somewhere that the Employer will take care of the formalities of closing the PF account within 3 months of Resignation. Is that right or Do I need to submit any documents by online to get the money from PF Account. Need your help. Thanks in advance.

    1. You can filll form 19 and send to EPFO office

  278. punith says:

    Hi,
    Very nice and concise write up.
    How much time does it take to KYC completion as it is showing pending for me for some time.

    1. Hi punith

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  279. Divesh says:

    Hello Greetings,
    I want to know can my new employer know about my previous employer if I provide them my UAN Number?
    And if Suppose one doesn’t want to provide the tell them about previous employer and wants to get a new PF account generated from the new employer?
    Please help

    Regards
    Divesh

    1. I think that should not be possible for them , because only EPFO should have that information

  280. kamlesh says:

    Hi Thanks,

    Very good piece of info. I want to ask that, after my UAN is generated can I withdraw my PF of my previous company.
    I only found the link to transfer the account from previous to new but no mention of withdrawal.

    Please let me know if I can withdraw my PF or not?

    Thanks

    1. No you cant . You can only withdraw it for the EPF’s which were opened after UAN came into picture !

  281. RajKumar says:

    Hello,

    Once UAN is generated, I fi leave the company and join some other company. Will I still be able to withdraw the PF? (not taking it in the form of loan)

    Regards,
    Raj

  282. Pankaj says:

    Is KYC important for withdrawal of money. Who validate the KYC.

    1. Yes, KYC should be there. The validation will be done by employer

  283. nagesh says:

    this always throwing a error sometime its saying server too busy otherwise
    Latest passbook will be available only after 48 hours for New UAN login activated members. error. I am seeing this past 2 months. like government portal, I have contacted customer service , they also don’t know what to do.

    1. Hi nagesh

      Try after few days

  284. Bikash says:

    Hello Manish,

    I left my service 5 years back and have been self employed since. How do i withdraw my PF now when i do not have a UAN number nor can i get one because i am self employed.

    1. Hi Bikash

      You can fill a EPF withdrawal form and send it to EPFO . You can get it because you are not into JOB

  285. Charnjeet says:

    My employer update my wrong B’day in member portal and didn’t solve this at their end. So Please tell me now how can i know my UAN no.

  286. Kiran says:

    I’ve two UAN numbers. One UAN is created by me and activated by me without knowing my employer has already goat an UAN for me. I can not activate the UAN from my employer since I already used my mobile number for the UAN I’ve created myself.

    What should I do now?

    1. Hi Kiran

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  287. RDas says:

    FEELING PROBLEM IN GENERATING UAN NO . PLEASES HELP: I ENTERED DETAILS , THE MASSAGE THAT IS COMING IS : Request for UAN for this Member Id DSSHDXXXXXXYYYYYYY is already under process.(through ECR). NOW WHAT SHOULD BE DONE ?? KINDLY HELP

    1. Hi RDas

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  288. shubham says:

    Sir , when i check my UAN status , it says “Request for UAN for this Member Id PYKRP00521630000000545 is already under process.(through ECR)” kindly suggest

    1. Yea, so you need to wait for it !

      1. Happyinvest007 says:

        For me, this kind of message is getting displayed for more than 6 months.. still I need to wait to get UAN allotted?

        1. Yes, you will get an intimation from your employer itself on that

  289. Seema Gopal says:

    Hi,

    If one employee has a UAN number and when he joins another organization and the new employer also generates another UAN what need to be done in such a situation? Though the employees had given his UAN to the current employer.

    Thanks and Regards,
    Seema Gopal

    1. kirti says:

      I m also in same situation. if u get answer to this, please let me know.

    2. Just mention the old UAN , new UAN should not be used

  290. Sam says:

    I have 3 old EPF accounts and none of them are active now and aren’t earning any interest.
    I do not hold any active EPF accounts as of now, as I have not been in a job for the past 3 years. However, I have registered for a UAN with the last held PF account.
    What would you suggest me between the below two options:
    1. Consolidate all the EPFs by transferring into the last PF account and withdraw the EPF amount at one shot.
    2. Withdraw each EPF account individually.

    1. Withdraw them as of now

  291. Manoj Harodia says:

    I got allotted UAN number from my old employer, and changed job in Nov 2014. As per UAN helpdesk my new employer has to port data using existing UAN but new employer does not know the process, can you please provide me the process flow – how new employer will port data?

    1. Hi Manoj

      This system is now and only employers can do it . So wait for it

  292. Arun says:

    While creating my Account im getting date of birth is not matched. What cause of this. Can anybody help…:(

    1. That means your DOB is not recorded properly in your EPF records

  293. nagaraj says:

    Dear Manish,

    It very useful article for making PF transcation simple in online.
    I have one query ,i am managing a small company with 50 emp.I am facing an error like DOB and relation wrongly mentioned in UAN—–>CONFIRM PREVIOUS EMPLOYMENT ID in epf employer transfer portal. Because of this error i couldn’t able to process UAN for newly joined employee.Please let me know ,how to resolve this issue.
    Thank you in advance
    nagaraj

  294. Lokesh Aggarwal says:

    Dear Sir,

    I am a Private Company Employee.
    I am facing 1 issue with my UAN Account.
    I Lost My UAN Password also Mobile No Registered with UAN is Closed officially.
    I forget to change My Mobile No with UAN Records.

    Now I Put Grievance , Various Mails, Letters to EPFO office Delhi.
    But they are not changing My Mobile No in EPFO Records so that I can run My UAN Account with New Mobile no.

    Please Suggest how to go about this.

    1. Hi Lokesh Aggarwal

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  295. ankit gupta says:

    Dear Manish,
    I have registered my UAN no for pf. Now i am changing my job and joining a new company. I want to withdraw me pf ammount due to some requirements. I do not want to transfer my pf to the new employer. Can i withdraw my PF ammount. As in previous system it was simple to withdraw whole pf ammount after leaving the organisation.

    1. Still you can withdraw your EPF in same way

  296. suresh v says:

    Hi
    how to change mobile no in uan services

  297. sarat says:

    Hi Manish,

    Thanks for sharing this useful info. I am having some problem with my PF accounts. Some 3 months back I have joined a new company and claimed a PF transfer to my new account from old by claim attached by previous employer.

    This is in process and may take some time. In the mean time I have resigned from my current organization as well. And I want to withdraw all my PF amount as I am in need of some money. But my concern is what if after 2 months while withdrawing my money the PF amount not tranfered from my old account?

    Later say in future if I have joined some other company can I use the same UAN no there else I have to create another one by deactivating this one? My question is here after withdrawing my PF amount will my UAN still be active?

    1. You can use the same UAN there . It does not need to be generated everytime you change the job

  298. Vasimahmad Shaikh says:

    Hi Manish,
    I have join new organization 8 months back. I had existing UAN from my last organization and got new PF account from present organization. would you please suggest me,
    1. How to link existing UAN with present EPF account?
    2. and whenever I try to download my present PF account passbook, i get error message “Your pass book is not available on the portal. Your request has been recorded. Based on the request the concerned EPFO Office will upload the pass book. You will get an SMS for downloading it once the pass book is available on the portal.”

    Thanks & Regards
    Vasim Shaikh

    1. Hi Vasim

      Linking will be done by your employer and regarding the second question, I am not clear

  299. prem Kumar says:

    Every thing is fine about the artical, but I have some query, is it possible to use the same UAN for new employer which has been used for old employer from which PF amount as been withdrow already from old employer ?

  300. naveen says:

    acctually
    i have my uan number
    but when i am going to activate then mis match
    my uan is 100449595472 under punjab
    and my pf number is APHYD0037857000
    WHEN I AM SELECT PUNJAB AUTOMATICALLY SELECT ,,,,PLD THEN HOW CAN I ENTER APHYD PLEASE HELP REQUEST

    1. Hi naveen

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  301. VISHAL GALAV says:

    Dear Sir,
    When i go for registration for UAN it shows the following massage Request for UAN for this Member Id RJRAJ00168550000005377 is already under process.(through ECR)
    Please confirm how it show so please confirm how i register myself for UAN.

    1. Hi VISHAL GALAV

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  302. Ankit says:

    Manish,

    My employer gathered KYC information from employees. However My bank account number not properly uploaded and now not possible for me to change same at EPF-UAN website. Company not replying me for the same.

    Please guide how to change KYC if once wrongly uploaded.

    1. Hi Ankit

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  303. jay singh says:

    I have switch to a company whose strength is 24 and currently they are not giving pf.so what should I do with old epf .UAN is already activated.

    Can u pls suggest???

    1. Wait for them to have EPF system in place ..

  304. Arun says:

    Hi Manish, I resigned my job on Dec 2013 and i started my business. After a year i.e Dec 2014 i applied for my PF withdrawal. Still i did not get my PF amount. I tried to check my status online. But it’s showing as NO records found. How can i track it ?
    Or when can i expect my PF amount? Is there is any min/max peroid for this?

    Thanks,
    Arun.

    1. Hi Arun

      You should take help of RTI now in this case ! .

      Manish

  305. Aswathy says:

    Hi Manish,
    The article is very informative.

    I have one doubt. In my previous organization, I have been given one UAN number.
    and in my current company also updated to UAN. In this case, do i really need to apply for EPF transfer. Becoz in UAN portal, only previous company member ID is listed and not current one’s. I am in current company for 4 + months now.

    Initially i have been told not to apply for transfer. But now they are telling to apply for transfer.
    What is the exact process. Kindly provide info.

    1. I think you still have to apply . Check with your employer on this . They have more clarity

  306. Gopu says:

    Hi,
    I relieved from a private firm on Mar 9, 2015 in chennai. My Uan is active now.

    I got employment in the dept of posts. When i tried to disclose my uan here, it seems dept has no aware of Uan and here new pension scheme for me.
    Is it possible to claim my pf money? If yes means how?

    1. Hi Gopu

      In that case, you will have to manually transfer the EPF . Or file a RTI

  307. Paresh says:

    when i tried to Know your UAN Status. after filling all detail. it’s shows “Request for UAN for this Member Id GJ################# is already under process.(through ECR)”.

    then how to known UAN number in this situation. what is ECR Portal.

    1. ECR thing is for employers . For your UAN , you just contact your employer

  308. Rajat Rajawat says:

    When i am checking UAN Status its giving error .I have My UAN number .

    Member ID THVSH00446320001585989 does not exist in member master.

    please help me to resolve this isssue.

    1. Hi Rajat Rajawat

      You should take help of RTI now in this case ! .

      Manish

  309. prashant says:

    Hi..
    I left job in january 2014,
    Now i have started my own small business.
    Today i have checked that, my UAN is created and is Active. I am able to download my Passbook also.
    I would like to withdraw my pf amount now.
    How can i withdraw my EPF/PF amount.

    1. Check that with your employer , he will arrange everything for you

  310. Rishabh Mohan says:

    Hi Manish,

    One question that came to mind is that i havr been getting regular messages about the amount transferrwd to my account but what happens to the employee contribution? Do i not recieve messages about the employee contribution towards my account?

    1. its all there in your EPF ,even though you dont get notification !

  311. Dibaz says:

    Hi Manish,

    A person has switched employment from one company to second with no gap. Just wanted to know if he provides his UAN to his new employer but has not completed the Online Transfer on EPFO website; would he still be able to withdraw his PF with the old employer. Would there be any penalties for doing this?

    Regards,

    1. They cant withdraw the old EPF while in employement

  312. Hi Good Day.

    I am working in private organisation since from 9 years. I have activated my UAN on EPFO web but my PF balance is not showing. when i tried to download e-passbook the msg is showing that Establishment Exempted under EPF Scheme. That means I cannot claim my PF amount online..? and EPS number is linked to UAN not the EPF number. How Employer can do this…Kindly advise me how i can proceed further.

    1. Hi Basavareddy

      I suggest that you now take the RTI route. You can file the RTI and ask your queries to them. THey are bound to reply you on your queries.

      Its a bit long cut, but works well

      Manish

  313. Pavan says:

    Manish,

    Can you please help me with my scenario?
    I have resigned from 3 companies in the past 5 years. Currently, I am working independently.
    From the EPF website, i can see that the UAN number has been generated for the last 2 companies i worked for.

    How should i handle this case? Should i withdraw all of them or move them to one account?
    For transferring will UAN help here?

    1. Hi Pavan

      I think you should withdraw all of them independently .

  314. chetan says:

    what if i am not received my UAN ?
    when i check status , every time i received below same message last 6 months
    Request for UAN for this Member Id is already under process.(through ECR)
    please help me what is solution to take UAN.

    1. Hi chetan

      You should contact your employer regarding this.

      They need to get in touch with EPFO on this

    2. JosephMathew says:

      Hi Chetan,

      Do you have the same message again? Since this is same for me .

      Hi Manish, Thank you for sharing this, is their any other way to get the UAN number? since my employer states that they haven’t received anything from the EPFO.

      Many Thanks

      Joseph Mathew

      1. You can create it online I guess .

  315. sasi says:

    Hi
    A quick question earlier we were allowed to withdraw pf on job change.(though we are not supposed to).i have even done thrice as now I am in my 4th employment.so now with UAN in picture I think its not possible to ..ur views

    1. Yes, it will not be possible now !

      1. chetan says:

        thanks

  316. sreenivasa says:

    I have a question here about UAN. My present employer has created 5 UAN account numbers for me as when ever my employer sends me to USA he creates a new PF number. when i have contacted the my employer for UAN number he has initially shared one UAN number which i have activated. Later on i have realized that UAN number provided by the employer was for my old account. but by this time i have activated the same with my present mobile number and now later on when i have obtained the UAN for the present active PF account i am not able to activate the same as my mobile number is already registered with another UAN number. I am not sure how to solve this issue. I have tried to call on the UAN helpline number: 1800 118005 but was never able to connect to the same.

    can any one point me to any possible solution for this issue.

    1. Hi sreenivasa

      You should take help of RTI now in this case ! .

      Manish

  317. Rajkishore Rout says:

    I have applied for the balance transfer from my previous PF account to current PF account. I have got sms about the transfer. I have also activated my UAN. But unfortunately the whole balance is not showing under UAN. It is showing that already settled.

    If I check the PF balance through SMS against my new PF account SMS is coming with updated balance.

    Could you please help me, where is the real problem ?. I have emails to PF dept many times but there is no response from their end.

    My Query:
    1. Wether my previous PF account is registerd with UAN, So it is showing already settled.
    2. My both PF account is not linked properly under UAN. Then how to solve it.
    3. Whether there is a problem from UAN portal side.

    1. Hi Rajkishore Rout

      You should take help of RTI now in this case ! .

      Manish

  318. Abhishek Raval says:

    First of all many thanks for such a good articles.each article is very previous. Please keep it up.
    My que:
    In last April-14, I transferred my PF amount to new EPF a/c opened by mu current employer through online mode where you need to submit he claim form to either of your employer. After that gradually my EPF amount was transferred within a month.
    But EPS Column is still showing null. Means only EPF was transferred not the amount accumulated for pension plan. Here both the EPFO was same i.e. Ahmedabad I went there personally to ask about EPS Money. They said it will be appeared after the end of financial year i.e. after March 2015. Is that so?? They said even if its nit showing ni need to worry. As per your years of service, pension will be provided in future.is that so? If its like that then how much pension I will get?
    Also at that time there was no any other form available to transfer pension part on OTCP EPF Portal.! same has happened with my friend.
    Please guide what s Should we do.our present employer’s share in EPS is visible in EPF passbook. But my HR is clueless for how to get the EPS money of previous employer’s share.

    1. Hi Abhishek Raval

      You should take help of RTI now in this case ! .

      Manish

  319. Ayush says:

    Hi Manish,

    Thanks for the article. One query – Assume that UAN has been generated and activated, what needs to be done for EPF accounts with older employers:
    a. Is it possible to associate the UAN number with them?
    b. Assuming yes, do we need to still request for EPF account transfer, or, once UAN is associated with older account, the funds will automatically get transferred ?

    Thanks,
    Ayush

    1. Ayush says:

      To clarify – i am talking about existing PF accounts with older employees. I understand that in future once UAN number is given to new employer, the funds will get linked automatically.

    2. Hi Ayush

      For older employers you need to manually apply for transfer . It will not happen automatically !

      1. Ayush says:

        Thanks Manish!

  320. Sachin says:

    How do you track EPS from a previous employer.
    I got the EPF transferred from my previous org (having a private trust) thru manual procedure. I can see the amount reflected against the UAN online.
    However, cant see the EPS amount.

    Does it get transferred automatically along with EPF ?

    1. Hi Sachin

      You should find out this from your employer only,because only they can comment on the exact status on this

      1. Sachin says:

        Ok thx.

  321. Miss P says:

    Hi Manish,
    I have left my company without serving notice period due to which they are not willing to help me get my PF . I have my UAN number along with my PF number. Can i use my UAN number to withdraw my PF?

    I do not want to go through the long process mentioned in your other blog post with the 6 steps. Can the UAN number be used for a faster withdrawl? I am currently unemployed.

    Thanks.

    1. Hi Mamta

      For older EPF, UAN will not help . You will have to go the old way only !

  322. Sushil Kumar Pandey says:

    hi I joined company on 19 dec 2013.I have EPF Account.
    Can i now ask to my employer for UAN.Is it applicable for me also.

  323. avy says:

    if i transfer my UAN to my new employer. so can i withdraw the PF at any time while serving new employment ?

    1. Not withdraw, but transfer . You can withdraw only in some situations allowed by EPF

  324. Sharat says:

    Hi Manish Greetings.
    I joined the organisation on Aug 2014 and in our concern they deduct EPF but i have not informed about my UAN number. All wanna to know my UAN number, How can i get that?

    1. First follow what is given in the article. Check if its generated for you or not !

  325. ANKUR says:

    Hi Manish

    Nice Info

    Just a query-
    After creating the PIN My wife’s surname in the CREATE USERNAME AND PASSWORD is still showing her maiden name (before marriage) so do i confirm the same and then do the changes or same has to be changed before.
    Thanks

    1. Hi ANKUR

      That means that her name in EPF records is yet the older one . Change it now

  326. Vasudevan Dhanashekar says:

    Hi Manish, Real nice blog. I have a question. When i key in the EPF details and check for the UAN status , It says that i have my UAN alloted…. I still need to activate it. When i key in the UAN Number and the Same EPF details, I am getting Mismatch of UAN and Member Id.. Please help me with this error. Thanks.

    1. Hi Vasudevan Dhanashekar

      You should take help of RTI now in this case ! .

      Manish

  327. anubhav garg says:

    Hi Manish,

    I have a complex query.

    I worked with a company A till Aug 2012 and did not withdraw/transfer my Pf. And I worked with company B till last few months and recently joined a start up where no Pf is being deducted from my salary.

    The company B issued me a UAN.

    Now, I want advise on what to do with the money lying in my PF account from company A ? By Aug 2015, it will be 3 years since I left company A and interest will stop getting added to the PF accumulated so far.

    I do not want to withdraw my old PF amount as the money would be added to my salary and I have to unnecessary pay tax on it.

    What is the best solution to my problem?

    1. Hi anubhav garg

      In your case, the best you should do is leave your EPF money like that for next 2 yrs . Yes you will not get interest, but then even you dont have to pay tax on it .

      After 2 yrs you take a call what to do , I guess by that time your startup will have EPF facility and then you transfer to it or else withdraw the money later !

      1. anubhav garg says:

        Thanks Manish.

        I believe PF department should have looked at the scenario where one is employed with a company not deducting PF/ started on his own / not employed for more than 3 years. What if he does not want to take out PF and want to keep it for retirement.

        1. You can still keep it, but then you will not get the interest on it . Any account inoperative for 3 yrs will not earn interest !

  328. AJ says:

    Hi Manish,

    I managed to get UAN for my spouse registered and logged in but it shows

    Passbook not available as pertain to exempted establishment (i.e. Trust)

    Do you know if they need to update UAN with pf deductions ? What happens when you switch Jobs ?

    Regards
    A

    1. When you switch jobs, you just need to give your UAN to new employer and they will do everything for you

  329. Nisha says:

    Hi.. Due to my financial situation I would like to withdraw my pf amount while switching my job. Can i withdraw it, since my UAN is not yet activated. But i have been allotted a UAN.

    1. Yes you can do that, please fill up the withdrawal form and send it to EPFO !

  330. Jalaj Baweja says:

    Hi Manish,
    I have transferred my EPF from my previous employer to the present employer and I have the activated UAN number also. However, my EPS portion of previous employer didn’t get transfer to the present employer.
    Please share how I can get the same transferred online.

    Thanks & Regards,
    Jalaj Baweja

    1. Hi Jalaj

      The procedure is same. Ask your employer why its not done !

  331. AJ says:

    Nice article as always Manish ..

    I was trying to register in UAN portal and it never sends me an SMS even though I tried a few times after a break of 30 mins . The only thing I can think of is the mobile no I am using is not from Karnataka circle but my pf is in Bangalore . Is it mandatory that I need to use a local no to register ? Also do you know whom I can contact in this case – phone/email ?

    1. That can be an issue . Also another issue might be that you are on DND , but the chances of that is very low !

  332. Happyinvest007 says:

    Nice article Manish!!

    I have one doubt, what is a person not having UAN as of now and its under process of generation by EPFO. But meanwhile that person shifted job to new organization then that new org will also allocate new UAN.

    How to deal with this matter and how can entire money be allocated in one new EPF account?

    1. UAN is allocated by EPFO , so you will mostly get the same UAN !

  333. Vijay Mishra says:

    Hi Manish,

    I would like to share my experience regarding the transfer of the EPF Money. I was working with Wipro Pune and I left that organization in June 2012. It was a one day resignation and I didn’t served the notice period of 2 months. When I contacted their Finance and accounting department regarding the PF money they started asking me to pay 2 months of salary as compensation for not serving the notice period.

    They were not cooperating at all, even when I told them that EPF has nothing to do if I have served notice or not, that’s my money and I should get that but they were not agreeing to let me apply for this.
    The good thing is that I keep on updating me regularly of all sort of information. I was aware of the fact that, I would be earning interest on the amount till 3 years.

    This year on 10th of Jan I applied for online transfer, on 19th It was approved by the new and the old employer and on 6th Feb money is credited to the new account. I took due care while filing for the online transfer and selected current organization to attest the claim as I wanted EPFO to get involved in the whole procedure.

    So I have saved the money(2 months salary) which I would had paid Wipro unnecessarily if I would have asked them to attest the claim.

    If anyone is under the same situation they can follow what I did. Ultimately money matters !!!

    Thanks,

    Vijay

    1. Thats great sharing Vijay ! . It would surely be useful for a lot of people .

      Manish

  334. Kaushik says:

    Hi manish,

    do you know when we transfer our PF amount if pension contribution also get transmitted or not from the previous company?

    Whn i see my transferred amount it just says about employee and emloyers contribution, but it is not saying anything about pension contribution.

    Do we need to apply for transfer of that as well?

    regards
    kaushik

    1. There is a form which you fill along with EPF transfer form, its mentioned that its for EPS . So please check with EPFO now on this via RTI !

  335. Hey Manish!

    Your article is very nice and helpful to me.
    I am working in KPO (Pvt. Ltd.) and worked on PF for one of my clients. Earlier I was not familiar with the word UAN, but now having much more clarity on this. Thanks a tonne.

  336. Aparna Mohare says:

    Excellent Atricle and came at the right time!!
    One small question, if I wish to use Bank Account Number for KYC, what document do I need to upload pls.

    1. It should be passbook xerox or bank statement

  337. Javeed Akber says:

    The article was very much helpful, I need a little clarification for activation of UAN registration same mobile Number can be used for two or more persons or each individual has to give their mobile numbers separately. A clarification in this regard will be appreciated.

    Thanks & regards.

    1. Javeed

      I am not 100% clear on this, but as one person can have only one UAN , only one number should be allowed for a person.

      1. Javeed Akber says:

        Thanks for your response, as UAN is (Unique Account Number) which is to an individual, I wanted clarification pertaining to activation of its registration with same mobile Number for two or more persons or each individual has to give their mobile numbers separately. As our organisation has a huge staff.

        Thanking you once again in anticipation of a clarification.

        With regards.

        1. It has to be different phone for each UAN holder

          1. Javeed Akber says:

            Thanks a lot for clarification.

            With regards.

  338. IamNoSpecial says:

    As always, very informative post.

  339. Nagamohan says:

    Dear Manish,

    Good Article as always.
    The following issues are there with the UAN, which I hope will get corrected in the coming years.
    1. Update your KYC is not functional, I update my Aadhaar number and Bank account and attached a soft copy for the same but for the past 1 months the same was in pending category only.If it is updated by employer the same got approved immediately.
    2. Name,Father name cant be corrected online, I hope that has to be corrected based on the KYC documents upload.

    Thanks again

    1. Thanks for sharing that Nagamohan !

  340. Rakesh says:

    I have recently joined a new organization which does not have UAN created/allotted for its employees, While my previous employer had it, and I have been allotted a UAN. In my new organization i was asked to fill a form for EPF transfer(old process), I asked don’t you need my UAN number to which they had no clue, Its a small start-up kind of company so the processes are not standardized.
    1. what should be appropriate course of action in my case for EPF transfer?
    2. How to add new EPF A/c in my existing UAN?
    3. What would happen when my new organization tries to create a new UAN when they comply?

    1. I suggest wait for some time and let your employer comply with UAN procedures. They will issue a member id to you and then you can link it with UAN . Let some time by !

  341. MP says:

    Manish,

    I have an EPF from my old employer from 2004. I am currently out of the country. What would be the best way for me to get back my stuck money especially with UAN not having the ability to address old accounts?

    Thanks,
    MP

    1. I think in anycase you need the old account number, else how can you find it . Do one thing, now you can file the RTI online , so even if you are out of country, you can atleast file the RTI. and Ask EPFO about your Account number by giving them your old employer details and explain them your situation !

  342. goiGohil Bharat says:

    very informative article sir. Thanks a lot. keep it on.

  343. Raja Mohamed says:

    Hi Manish,

    Really informative article & I have already registered and able to view the EPF balance. One question though, how frequently is the account updated with balances, reason being, if I login today, am able to updates only as of Nov 2014, does that mean the employer hasn’t transferred the recent updates yet?

    1. Yes, that means employer is not updating it from their side. Are you getting sms updates of money getting deposited in your EPF account ?

      Manish

      1. Raja Mohamed says:

        No Manish, I haven’t been receiving any SMS updates regarding deposits…

        Raja

        1. Then check it , You should be getting it !

          1. Raja Mohamed says:

            Hi Manish,

            Yes the amount for Dec 2014 is now getting displayed in the UAN site, from last couple of days. However I didn’t receive any SMS updates 🙂

            Thanks
            Raja

            1. Hi Raja Mohamed

              Thanks for sharing that !

  344. Rohit says:

    Hi Manish,

    Great article as always. I have already activated my UAN. One query though.. in conculsion you have mentioned KYC documents. Do we need to upload any KYC documents? Isn’t it already done since our records are avilable with EPFO?

    And who needs to attest the KYC documents?

    Thanks in advance

    1. In the start if your employer has your KYC details , then they will do it, but they should ask you once for the latest documents. you can also update it from your side !

      Manish

      1. Rohit says:

        Thanks for answering that. Also, if you know, can we self-attest the documents or employer attestation is required?

        1. I am not 100% sure on that as of now. See if you can also get it attested by employer !

  345. mahadevan says:

    We use full information….Thanks a lot….great work.

  346. murli says:

    thanx for such information.

    pls update us if any changes..

  347. Amit Sharma says:

    Thanks a ton for such detailed and step-by-step approach.

    I could successfully generate and activate my UAN which I have been thinking to do since a long time.

    JagoInvestor is no doubt one of the best portals worth going through anytime !

  348. Suresh D says:

    Hi Manish, Good day!

    A special thanks to your effort taken for this….! Your info is really helpful to me & let me share it to my friends, peers and relatives!
    I have gone thru each and every step and activated the my UAN now (5th Feb & 2.45PM). I can able to download the passbook after 48 hrs in this portal.
    GREAT INITIATIVE by Modi Govt.

    Regards,
    Suresh D

    1. Great 🙂 . I am not sure if its Modi Govt initiative 🙂 . It was in plan for many years and finally getting implemented !

  349. Amit says:

    I have follow-up with my company on private PF trust point and here is the current system.
    If your company has private trust, then you will have two numbers – EPF, and EPS. EPF money is with company trust, EPS with govt EPF department. Hence, you WILL get a UAN number but it will only be linked to your EPS account.

    Now, if you shift or want to shift money from old epf account, you can not use UAN system.

    1. Is that so ? Thanks for updating . from what I read online, I thought UAN will be there for Private trusts too !

    2. Dilsingi says:

      I think Amit is right. At this moment only the EPS system is linked to UAN and not the EPF with Private Trust. My employer also informed the same.

  350. when I enter details in this site, then it shows a message ” your name and date of birth did not match” then where I have to check what is the mistake. why can’t I generate my UAN number.
    Please guide me…

    1. That means that as per records your name or dob is different . Check your salary slip and see what exactly is the information there !

  351. Hemant Burman says:

    Hello Manish,

    So I have 2 UANs now, one from my previous organization and one from the new one.
    I had activated UAN from previous Company, but since my current company was not aware of this UAN, they have generated a new UAN for me. To add to the pain I have initiated a PF transfer from my previous company to the new one. Now what can I do to get this all sorted and will my PF transfer get affected anyways(as I have not activated my current company’s UAN)?

    1. Its a interesting problem, from what I know UAN is generated by EPFO and not employer . UAN is communicated by EPFO to companies and they give it to you . So as of now I dont have answer to your question

      Manish

      1. Vijay Mishra says:

        Hi Hemant,

        If you have received two UAN then you need to contact the EPFO and inform them about this. They will verify the details and keep the new UAN active and terminate the old UAN.

        As far as EPF transfer is concern, if your details do match as per the EPFO database then it will get transferred to the new account. It will hardly take 20-25 days once the claim is approved by your previous employer.

        As per my opinion, you should activate the new UAN and inform EPFO about double UAN allotment. Anyways, they would be keeping the new UAN active.

        Thanks,

        Vijay

    2. Vijay says:

      Hi Hemant,
      I have also got 2 UANs somehow. How did you resolve the issue?

  352. Shashank says:

    Hi Manish,

    My company owns a PF trust so all PF related transactions are taken care by it. I want to know whether UAN is still valid if transactions are of this kind?

    Thanks in advance.

    1. There is no much info available on private trusts, hence as of now I don’t have clarity on it !

      1. Shashank says:

        Thanks for the info. Please do share the information if you get any updates on this in future.

  353. sunil patil says:

    Dear ,

    I have UAN account for EPFO.
    but let me know how to withdraw money from EPFO account to bank account

    1. As of now its still not active in UAN , I told in article that it will be possible only after 6 months .

  354. Meena Shivram says:

    Very Useful and timely post. Thanks, Manish

  355. Ketaki R says:

    Hi Manish,

    I tried followingthese steps when UAN was applied all across Organizations as mandate. I see in Step2 – while activating my account. My details like name are appearing incorrect. When I reported to Employer, they directed me to PF third party assigned with our employer. But they are no longer taking any interests.

    Do you know where I can report if these details are appearing incorrect?
    As they are incorrect, I have not activated my UAN yet.

    1. There is a possibility that you are not entering it in right manner, Please check that once again . If your EPF account is correct and you are putting it in right manner , then UAN portal should ideally not show some different name. I am afraid thay you will have to take the RTI route if you need a genuine serious answer from EPFO .

  356. Sushil says:

    Thanks Manish…i have already completed all the steps mentioned by you And i m also receiving Monthly SMS for credit in my EPF account. This is the only platform through which i come to know that my employer deposits the EPF after 20th of a month for the salary which i got in 1st of a month. means 20 days late… and this is going regularly.

    By the way when i submit my UAN to new employer at a new location, will my Old account money will be automatically transferred to new one? Or there will be a single EPF account identified by UAN number?

    1. Yes, old EPF will automatically be transferred in 1-2 months of giving the UAN to new employer .

  357. Vikas says:

    But still its not cleared whether it will be applicable for trust or not?

    1. There is less clarity on this point , hence I cant comment

  358. Bharani says:

    Looooooved this article, very clear, clean, simple, yet powerful communication. Keep up the good work!
    Before UAN, transfer from my old employer (PF trust) to new employer in 2013 (EPFO) took nearly 10 months, but worse part was communication – employers had no idea if PF is tranferred. Now with UAN, they both are showing up nicely in online!

    1. Thanks for sharing that !

  359. Raghu Udiyar says:

    For older EPF accounts, you can also do the transfer online, its very convenient : http://www.epfindia.gov.in/Employee_OTCP.html

    For the transfer to work both organisations need to have digital signatures (most of them have). You just fill in the details, and print out the form and send it to your previous or current organisation. You get an sms that details every step, and also the contact person (in the previous or current) to call and verify if the form has reached them. I’ve already done one transfer using the portal, and doing the other now. THe EPF office have made great strides with UAN and this transfer portal.

    1. Thanks for sharing that Raghu !

  360. mukesh says:

    I withdraw my pf from previous company but pension fund still there but on line I can not see it. so how can I transfer this fund to my current pf account. previous company have a pf trust.

    1. For that you need to contact your new employer and old employer !

  361. A.Sundaram says:

    Excellent write-up,Manish. Will be very useful to the youngsters.Thanks.

  362. laxmikanth says:

    Hi, Thank you for the information on UAN. This is really helpful. I have a question and here is my scenario. I have joined a new organization in the month of july 2014. My new organization have their own PF trust. My previous organization used to deposit my PF with EPWF. I got my UAN from my previous organization in the month of Oct 2014 (as I remember). This is because I have not transferred my PF from previous org to current org. Could you please help me out what are the things I need to follow and how the private PF trust will work out in case of UAN.

    Your help will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance,

    Thanks,
    Laxmikanth.

    1. Laxmikanth

      As of now how UAN will work with private trust is not clear . Hence we should for some time for that !

  363. Sanchay says:

    Hello Manish,

    This is now changed for good. ” You will have to manually deal with old EPF accounts”.

    I have successfully transferred my 10 year (yes 10 years) old EPF account money to new account, in just 60 days time. Using following EPF website.

    http://memberclaims.epfoservices.in/

    1. Great . thanks for sharing that !

  364. Minakshi kumawat says:

    Hi manish,

    I really appreciate your efforts towards updating us .
    Many thanks

      1. Minakshi Kumawat says:

        Hi Manish …how can I contact you ,,,,I want some guidence from you in my personal financial life . I am in Pune now. Please advice.

        Many thanks

        1. Hi Minakshi

          We have a online model , You can contact us through – https://www.jagoinvestor.com/services/financial-planning

          Manish

          1. Meenakshi says:

            Many thanks Manish,
            Do you run financial advice in meetings sessions also.please advice .

            Many thanks

  365. Vikas says:

    I want to know this new UAN number will also be applicable for PF trust.My company is having own trust and how it will take care?

    1. That information is not 100% clear as of now !

      1. Rahul says:

        This is applicable to private trust also, company in which i work has private trust, and we have recieved UAN numbers

        1. Nice, can you give more information Rahul . Do all the things I mentioned in the article apply to you guys also ? If you can give me some points, I will add it in article and it will help many others ?

          Manish

  366. Kranti Goyal says:

    Hi Manish,

    Thats very useful information. Is it applicable for Private PF trust also.

    Thanks and Regards
    Kranti

    1. That information is not 100% clear as of now !

      1. Santosh Sinha says:

        it is not applicable for private funds. I have my old EPF with Tata Teleservices and i register it under UAN.

        1. Some people told me that they also have private trusts and they are given UAN !

          1. nawaz says:

            Can my new employer know my previous experience From UAN detail.
            I dont want to disclose this??

      2. Kishore says:

        My case is different…my question is with regards to background check..i worked for audit firms for 5 years but payment was in cash mode,had no pf account…but in d month of march 2015 i joined for another organisation where i got uan pf number…bt now i changed organisation stating to dem dat im working under d organisation vch is having pf account for 3years…problem is like,my new employer asking me he pf uan number,my previous employer name nd service period…can i tell dem??even if my account is 1month old??dat too vth different organisation??will dey b able to trace out d exact details??plz help me out

        1. Chintan says:

          You must share your UAN with your new employer. They will ntobe able to make out how long you have maintained the earlier PF account( linked to your UAN), but it will help you in a way that you will not have to worry about transferring 1 month’s of PF contribution made in your old account by you and your old employer.
          Also, UAN has to be unique, there can’t be multiple UANs for an individual. That’s the whole idea about introducing UAN, What say Manish ?

  367. Arunkanth says:

    This is as simple as any other article in JagoInvestor with clear information. Good one and thanks Manish. A small typo “detials” can be corrected when you get time 🙂

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